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AyashiKaibutsu

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Same here. 90% of our devs use a macbook pro 15 inch or 17. We have a couple iMacs too.

Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.
 

purbeast0

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i was updating one of my iOS apps yesterday and yea xcode blows major dick.

1. when you are debugging and it breaks, when you press "continue" it doesn't bring the simulator to the front of the screen, you have to go to the dock and click it to get back to it.

2. i hopened an old version of a file that i had for the project i was working on, like in a totally different location on the hard drive. then when in the project viewer whenever i clicked on that file it would load up the old version one, not th eone in the actual project. i even closed the project and reopened it, and the same thing. i had to "open" the file from the hdd for it to get back into my project ... again, never moving any files on the hdd locaitons.

3. undo doesn't undo your actual last action, it will undo "groups" of actions and that is annoying as hell.

4. the way when you do if then else, it adds the starting/ending brackets automatically, and ads this "STATEMENTS" block in between it. since it doesn't add the brackets in the format that I like, i have to manually modify it, and then go remove the STATEMENTS block that it automatically inserted.

5. when i click "build and debug" and it hits a break point, it will go to xcode but won't go to the debug tab by default - i have to click it every freaking time i want to go there.

those are just a few of my peeves with it, and i noticed this last night in like an hour or so of coding.
 

Capt Caveman

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Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.

I work at a large internet company and MBP are used by almost all the Devs and now are being issued as the standard laptop to new employees.
 

alfa147x

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Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.

A large research University. Currently working on a new website
 

alkemyst

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Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.

If you are working in a place where they deploy set images (typically like call centers, big business, universities) everything will be the same make and model more or less...usually bought cheaply as everyone is running citrix and other client type Network O/S's.

If you work with developers and consultant types that roam/need custom installs anyway....then they usually let them pick from a range of devices.

As a result the user manages his own machine whereas in the other model there is usually a help desk and IT/IS team that is only allowed to peak under the hood.
 
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In my experience, web developers (what I call McDevelopers) tend to gravitate towards Macs, while serious programmers tend towards PCs.
 

alkemyst

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In my experience, web developers (what I call McDevelopers) tend to gravitate towards Macs, while serious programmers tend towards PCs.

Down in your part of the world I'd think they are lucky to have more than just an abacus and a brazier of chicken blood and bones.
 

purbeast0

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In my experience, web developers (what I call McDevelopers) tend to gravitate towards Macs, while serious programmers tend towards PCs.

"serious" programmers?

do you think "serious" applications for OSX are developed on PC's?

cause they aren't.
 

Mike Gayner

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Down in your part of the world I'd think they are lucky to have more than just an abacus and a brazier of chicken blood and bones.

Yes you would think that, because you're a typical American who knows nothing of the world beyond your borders.
 

Capt Caveman

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Yes you would think that, because you're a typical American who knows nothing of the world beyond your borders.

Your ignorant posts about Americans and most everything makes everyone believe the typical New Zealander is a moron.
 
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zerocool84

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Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.

I work for a very large internet real estate company. I don't know if that's how it is everywhere but that's how it is at my work.
 

kt

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Where the hell do you work. Around here it's rough 99.7% windows users 100% in the office. When I was in college 6 years or so ago, probably about 95% used windows solely no one just used a mac and I only ever knew one guy that actually coded on the mac.

Not going to date myself, but when I was in college all lab computers in the computer science department are Mac. We use Code Warrior back then.
 

cheezy321

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I work for a very large internet company as well. Everyone here (Developers, sales, HR, etc...) all use macs.
 

SSSnail

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I work for a very large internet company as well. Everyone here (Developers, sales, HR, etc...) all use macs.
That's because every dumbfucks will want to look "cool" spending company's dimes. Has NOTHING to do with the legitimacy of it. Tell me I'm wrong.
 

TechAZ

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This isn't a bait question, or a troll question:

Why *exactly* is a Mac better for software/web development than a PC, or for IT?
 

Patranus

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Capt Caveman

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The funniest part of this post is that "serious" developers are using more or less the technology of "web" developers as things move to the cloud.

I guess the folks over at Google don't do any "serious" programming ;)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/d2f3f04e-6ccf-11df-91c8-00144feab49a.html

I liked this part of the article:

But many employees were relieved they could still use Macs and Linux. “It would have made more people upset if they banned Macs rather than Windows,” he added.

Looks like a lot of the supposed developers here aren't serious developers.
 

dwell

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This isn't a bait question, or a troll question:

Why *exactly* is a Mac better for software/web development than a PC, or for IT?

Because it's a POSIX compliant system. It's like having Linux without the shitty UI. You can install all the standard dev tools (gcc, Eclipse, git, svn) and all the LAMP and server stuff (Apache, PHP, MySQL, memcached, MongoDB, etc.). Not to mention you can drop to shell for stuff like cURL, wget, dig, nmap, and so on using Homebrew or MacPorts.

Sure you can install all that stuff under Windows but it feel clunky and needs all sorts of odd config. Not to mention the Windows terminal sucks.
 

Blueychan

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Mac OS X, the best of both world. You get the pretty UI plus *nix underneath.

I recently switch to a MacBook pro and I love it.
 

bhanson

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- language switch works on OS level rather than app level - very annoying
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I didn't read any of the rest of the thread but, I dislike the way Windows handles this by default. I do not like application level language switching because once you're sufficiently multi-tasking it is impossible to know what language to expect when switching to another application. You either have to type something to figure it out or look at your task bar (which I keep hidden).

I would much rather prefer OS level language switching so I can always know what language I'm working in.