After using MacBook Pro for a month

[evident]

i had a terrible experience coding on a mac in college. our college prof was a total mac fanboy that he wanted us to write some old app in cocoa when java was the best solution (it had to work on win, linux and mac).

 

[Capt Caveman]

First week of using Mac my Google searches related to Apple were 'how do I work around this shit on Mac?'

I.e.: how do I play flac on iTunes?
Is there any other decent mp3 player aside from iTunes?
How do I lock it?
How can I do page up/down with cursor moving (answer is, you can't)

If you don't follow infinite wisdom of Steve Jobbs and use what he gave you, you must be wrong, and you go to hell!

Wut? B/c it's not like Windows it's shit? So much fail.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I want a MacBook Pro just to see if it's any better, but I'll keep my $2000.

It would be cheaper to buy a friend that has a MBP and ask them if you could play with it. Or even better, you could go to an Apple Store and use one.

 

[silverpig]

First week of using Mac my Google searches related to Apple were 'how do I work around this shit on Mac?'

I.e.: how do I play flac on iTunes?
Is there any other decent mp3 player aside from iTunes?
How do I lock it?
How can I do page up/down with cursor moving (answer is, you can't)

If you don't follow infinite wisdom of Steve Jobbs and use what he gave you, you must be wrong, and you go to hell!

What's wrong with Cygwin? Been using it forever.

LOL. Mac sucks cause I gotta add all this stuff to make it work right. Oh, but Cygwin is totally cool.

 

[paulney]

LOL. Mac sucks cause I gotta add all this stuff to make it work right. Oh, but Cygwin is totally cool.

What stuff would you add to fix the cursor issue? Please do tell.
So far the only awesomeness of OSX anyone could produce here was a native bash terminal.

Whoopty-fucking-doo.

 

[SSSnail]

What stuff would you add to fix the cursor issue? Please do tell.
So far the only awesomeness of OSX anyone could produce here was a native bash terminal.

Whoopty-fucking-doo.

Which I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of the user base will never touch.

 

[alkemyst]

Mac's are decent for what they are, but doesn't satisfy my need for all the power user features of other operating systems.

You can run Windows 7 or *Nix on a MBP.

 

[QueBert]

First week of using Mac my Google searches related to Apple were 'how do I work around this shit on Mac?'

I.e.: how do I play flac on iTunes?
Is there any other decent mp3 player aside from iTunes?
How do I lock it?
How can I do page up/down with cursor moving (answer is, you can't)

If you don't follow infinite wisdom of Steve Jobbs and use what he gave you, you must be wrong, and you go to hell!

All that can be changed with 3rd party software. Last time I checked Windows didn't have built in FLAC support either.

 

[dwell]

What's wrong with Cygwin? Been using it forever.

Nothing, it's fine for what it is but it's really a Unix-like experience vs a full-on POSIX OS. Things like "/cygdrive/c/Program Files" are hokey too.

Being able to do things like "brew install mongodb" under OS X just rock.

 

[Eug]

Interestingly, of late, my network admin friends have been switching to MacBook Pros. I'm rather amused actually.

Mind you they deal with unix servers, so maybe they like OS X for that reason.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

autistic hipsters

 

[alkemyst]

almost every network engineer is electing the MBP at my company. We have a choice of the 15" MBP or the Lenovo T520 (I think that's the model...the top 15" currently)

Most run Snow Leopard and Windows 7 64 bit Pro via VMWare or Parallels.

Visio being the main Windows 7 need.

The hardware physically is much more robust and as consulting engineers that end up in steel mills and refineries durablity is paramount.

 

[paulney]

The hardware physically is much more robust and as consulting engineers that end up in steel mills and refineries durablity is paramount.

Lolwut? MBP hardware much more robust than Lenovo, which is specifically built to withstand abuse? I have a bridge to sell you.

For one, I could iron my shirts with MBP if it could spray water. I cannot hold it on my knees even when just browsing the web. Forget about playing flash videos - that'll brand your skin with apple logo.

 

[alkemyst]

Lolwut? MBP hardware much more robust than Lenovo, which is specifically built to withstand abuse? I have a bridge to sell you.

For one, I could iron my shirts with MBP if it could spray water. I cannot hold it on my knees even when just browsing the web. Forget about playing flash videos - that'll brand your skin with apple logo.

Something must be wrong with your MBP...

don't know WTF you are talking about Flash though, it's clear you think no Macs can run Flash which is entirely untrue. It's more an iPad issue and even on that platform there are work arounds.

Thanks for making shit up on the internet, please drive through.

 

[alfa147x]

I hate flash. One reason I don't have it installed on my mbp

 

[paulney]

Something must be wrong with your MBP...

don't know WTF you are talking about Flash though, it's clear you think no Macs can run Flash which is entirely untrue. It's more an iPad issue and even on that platform there are work arounds.

Thanks for making shit up on the internet, please drive through.

Alkemyst, you are smoking crack.

First of all, I have the latest gen MBP, and as others have noted in my company, it does heat up much more than older MBPs. Second, I never said Macs can't run flash, where did you get that from? What the sentence meant is that MBP heats up much more when running flash.

Everyone (except you) knows that Apple designs their products at the limits of its survivability for the sake of sleekness and minimal form. Reliably failing Mac-minis, ipods and yes, MBPs are a well-known fact. There is nothing in MBPs that is built with biz. user in mind, like Lenovo does (frame to hold components in place is just one example). So, the talk about 'more reliable hardware' is utter nonsense.

 

[alfa147x]

Flash being inefficient is not Apple's fault. It's the developer's (Adobe)

I do plenty of Final Cut Pro / Aperture / xCode work on my mac and i'v never scorched my legs.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

For one, I could iron my shirts with MBP if it could spray water. I cannot hold it on my knees even when just browsing the web. Forget about playing flash videos - that'll brand your skin with apple logo.

Hmm sounds like something is wrong with your machine. My MBP is easily the coolest (temperature-wise) laptop I have owned, even cooler than my old netbook. Even when playing 3D games it never gets above a very mild warm to the touch. You should get yours looked at.

 

[alkemyst]

Alkemyst, you are smoking crack.

First of all, I have the latest gen MBP, and as others have noted in my company, it does heat up much more than older MBPs. Second, I never said Macs can't run flash, where did you get that from? What the sentence meant is that MBP heats up much more when running flash.

Everyone (except you) knows that Apple designs their products at the limits of its survivability for the sake of sleekness and minimal form. Reliably failing Mac-minis, ipods and yes, MBPs are a well-known fact. There is nothing in MBPs that is built with biz. user in mind, like Lenovo does (frame to hold components in place is just one example). So, the talk about 'more reliable hardware' is utter nonsense.

The MBP is monoblock construction, the whole thing is a frame.

We have had people drop both the Lenovo and MBP...the MBP tends to fare a lot better.

We have had glass breaks, but it's an easy fix for an engineering type.

I still don't get where you are getting the heat from especally in casual web surfing.

 

[Ns1]

For one, I could iron my shirts with MBP if it could spray water. I cannot hold it on my knees even when just browsing the web - my vajayjay gets far too hot for comfort

ftfy

 

[zinfamous]

In my experience, it seems that most serious coders have migrated over to Apple since OS X.

 

[zerocool84]

In my experience, it seems that most serious coders have migrated over to Apple since OS X.

That's how it is at my work. Almost every developer is a Mac fanboi and I'm one of the few that doesn't own anything Apple.

 

[alfa147x]

In my experience, it seems that most serious coders have migrated over to Apple since OS X.

That's how it is at my work. Almost every developer is a Mac fanboi and I'm one of the few that doesn't own anything Apple.

Same here. 90% of our devs use a macbook pro 15 inch or 17. We have a couple iMacs too.

 

[sjwaste]

The biggest drawback of the MBP, if we're talking the 13 or 15" model, is the screen resolution. That's what makes it suck for development more than anything.

I mean, 1440x900 on a 15" screen is horrible for anything that requires vertical scrolling. I have a 13" and it's 1280x800. It's my every day, casual use computer. Hell, I'm on the couch using it right now. But it needs to be plugged into an external monitor for any development purposes.

EDIT: I see that 1680x1050 is now an option for the MBP 15. $150 buys you more pixels plus the anti-glare screen, or just $100 if you want to keep it glossy. I wish they'd offer that same resolution in the 13" model. The 13" MBA has 1440x900 though.

I don't write much code anymore, but I did get frustrated with XCode. It's just not what I'm used to - not the software's fault, though. I have a spare Mac Mini now, so I might hook that up to the 24" monitor in my basement "office" and see if I can't get used to XCode.

 

[DivideBYZero]

VM's, you heard? (let me spell it out so I won't have to come back to this again, V is Virtual and M is Machine) And I might have exaggerated a bit when I said they couldn't find the terminal, but really, they had no clues to what they were doing.

Please, do tell me why Ubuntu is "wrong".