After Supporting Prop 8, New CEO Brendan Eich Comes Under Fire From Mozilla Employees

[surfsatwerk]

The honest truth

 

[Texashiker]

None of that excuses your behavior in any way.

LOL, I am not asking to be excused.

 

[Zaap]

Freedom also means the freedom to not associate with those you find objectionable

So don't associate with him.

choose not to work with those whom you find objectionable,

So quit.

and the ability to publicly speak out against those who you think are bad people.

That's the totallitarian mindset of the left. Everyone is a "bad person" because they have opinions different from the PC views of left.

You're free to demonstrate being a totalitarian-minded jackass, sure. Other people don't have to be slandered or lose their careers over it.

 

[fskimospy]

So don't associate with him.

So quit.

That's the totallitarian mindset of the left. Everyone is a "bad person" because they have opinions different from the PC views of left.

You're free to demonstrate being a totalitarian-minded jackass, sure. Other people don't have to be slandered or lose their careers over it.

Lol, you are attempting to do the exact same thing that you are condemning.

The lack of self awareness is hilarious.

 

[Zaap]

Lol, you are attempting to do the exact same thing that you are condemning.

The lack of self awareness is hilarious.

^ says the loon who attempts to label trying to wreck someone's career for daring to disagree with you "freedom of association".

THAT'S the type of thing that makes you a leftloon.

 

[fskimospy]

^ says the loon who attempts to label trying to wreck someone's career for daring to disagree with you "freedom of association".

THAT'S the type of thing that makes you a leftloon.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue anymore. You're trying to stifle the freedom of speech of others and calling other people totalitarians while you're doing it.

No irony in this idiot here.

 

[OutHouse]

Actually, freedom isn't absolute and simply cannot be. Can I live my life "as I see fit" if I think it's fit for me to flash my junk to school kids everyday?

Restrictions aren't only rational, but are god-awful necessary.

what restrictions to freedom do you feel are god-awful necessary?

 

[fleshconsumed]

If gays were smart enough not to go around suing people who do not want to serve them, they might be more accepted.

If black women were smart enough to just go sit in the back of the bus and not to go around suing people who do not want to see them in the front of the bus, they might be more accepted.

How did that work out I wonder? Do you really think Rosa Parks should have just waited to be accepted? How long do you think that would take?

P.S. I wanted to write more, but it's a waste of my time. Instead I want to ask any prospective reader the following questions:
1. Does LGBT marriage deny you any rights? Yes or No?
2. Does LGBT marriage harm you in any way? Yes or No?
3. Is having to see LGBT couple hold hands and occasionally kiss in public worth denying them the right to marry and federal/state benefits? Yes or No?
4. Does passing the laws against LGBT marriage stop them from holding hands and occasionally kissing in public? Yes or No?

Answer Yes or No to the above question and decide for yourself whether you support LGBT community or not.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Did you recently have to change your morning commute because of a detour for gays out having gay sex in the street? Explain to me all of these changes you personally have to make to accommodate the existence of gay people?

does it matter.........

 

[senseamp]

He has a First Amendment right to say he doesn't want gay people to get married.
Mozilla employees, customers and partners have a First Amendment Right to say they don't want him as Mozilla CEO.

 

[Zaap]

I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue anymore. You're trying to stifle the freedom of speech of others and calling other people totalitarians while you're doing it.

No irony in this idiot here.

LOL. Like you've been told before: if your spin could be harnessed as energy, it could solve the energy needs of the entire planet!

The loon calling for stifling free speech because of a political view you don't like then turns around and spins that as others stifling free speech! You are absolutlely hilarious in your lunacy sometimes.

 

[Texashiker]

If black women were smart enough to just go sit in the back of the bus and not to go around suing people who do not want to see them in the front of the bus, they might be more accepted.

How did that work out I wonder? Do you really think Rosa Parks should have just waited to be accepted? How long do you think that would take?

The blacks did a lot better job in the 1960s than the gays are doing today.

What did the blacks do? They did peaceful protest. They sat down, refused to move, were arrested, repeat. The blacks had leaders who promoted peaceful protest. Where is the gay equivalent of MLK or Malcom X?

Where are the strong gay leaders who are promoting social reform on the street level, rather than bogging down our courts?

What are gays doing? They are suing anyone that crosses them.

If anything gays are losing respect with their bully tactics.

1. Does LGBT marriage deny you any rights? Yes or No?
2. Does LGBT marriage harm you in any way? Yes or No?
3. Is having to see LGBT couple hold hands and occasionally kiss in public worth denying them the right to marry and federal/state benefits? Yes or No?
4. Does passing the laws against LGBT marriage stop them from holding hands and occasionally kissing in public? Yes or No?

Does prostitution affect you?
Does monogamy affect you?
Does Crimea affect you?
Does Israel affect you?
Does some homeless person smoking crack affect you?
If some homeless guy or woman wants to give $10 blowjobs and smoke crack, it does not affect you.

Does not matter if you are affected or not. You still have an opinion.

 

[fskimospy]

LOL. Like you've been told before: if your spin could be harnessed as energy, it could solve the energy needs of the entire planet!

The loon calling for stifling free speech because of a political view you don't like then turns around and spins that as others stifling free speech! You are absolutlely hilarious in your lunacy sometimes.

You are literally describing what you are trying to do. I stand for the freedom of everyone to speak and associate how they wish, the person making the bigoted statements AND the people who condemn him. You support his right to act how he wants but then condemn others for acting how they want in response. Pure hypocrisy.

I'm being logically consistent, you decide about freedom of speech based on whether or not you like the content. That's what I mean when I say you have no sense of irony. You've somehow convinced yourself that you need to repress people's free speech rights in the name of freedom.

lol.

 

[Matt1970]

That is exactly what the glbt community is fighting against - freedom.

Cake bakeries should not be forced to serve gay marriages. The owner should be free to serve who he/she wants.

Freedom to choose our own path. If you do not like it, move to Russia.

You are looking at it backwards. That's the same mentality that says you should have the freedom to make blacks sit at the back of the bus.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Nobody if forcing to serve gay people anything. It's your choice whether or not to go into that line of work. However if you CHOOSE to open your business to the general public, or CHOOSE to go into a line of work that deals with the general public, then you cannot discriminate.

 

[brycejones]

land of the free pal. dont like it move to russia.

Well TH does want Putin to put it in him.....

 

[Texashiker]

You are looking at it backwards. That's the same mentality that says you should have the freedom to make blacks sit at the back of the bus.

Aren't bus systems operated by the city?

You are comparing a tax payer funded public service to a private business.

Well TH does want Putin to put it in him.....

If I was gay, but since I am not.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Does prostitution affect you?
Does monogamy affect you?
Does Crimea affect you?
Does Israel affect you?
Does some homeless person smoking crack affect you?
If some homeless guy or woman wants to give $10 blowjobs and smoke crack, it does not affect you.

Does not matter if you are affected or not. You still have an opinion.

You totally missed the point. Spectacularly so I might say. LGBT right to marry and federal/state benefits does not infringe on any of your rights in any sort of way. Now, you can have an opinion about it, you may think that it is an immoral thing under the eyes of your god, and that is totally fine. However, you're making a leap when you equate having an opinion to legislating that opinion onto others. What you want to do is not to have an opinion, you want to legislate your opinion onto others when their way of life does not affect you in any way.

 

[brycejones]

If I was gay, but since I am not.

Yet you seem to be the most focused person on this forum when it comes to homosexuality. So forgive us for wondering if you are just in denial.

 

[Zaap]

You support his right to act how he wants but then condemn others for acting how they want in response.

LOL! Spin spin spin your boat. What a loon.

I'm not calling for anyone to be fired. Your lame ilk is.

Lets put your lame idea of "freedom if association" to the test, shall we? If that's defined as having someone fired over a political view, then the CEO should be able to have fired everyone who diasagres with his political view. That's YOUR very own spin saying this is merely exercising one's "freedom of association". I'm sure you'll spin it all of a sudden that this shouldn't be allowed to work the opposite way-out if someone wants to fire YOU for disagreeing with them politically, suddenly you'll probably see all sorts of problems with that. After all, that's not fitting in with your leftloon "everyone has to agree with me or else" totalitarian mindset.

Pure hypocrisy.

Is pretty much all you ever post.

I'm being logically consistent, you decide about freedom of speech based on whether or not you like the content. That's what I mean when I say you have no sense of irony. You've somehow convinced yourself that you need to repress people's free speech rights in the name of freedom.

lol.

Case in point! Like I say, your spin is legendary!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'm OK with Eich having a different opinion than I hold...but I would never want to see him personally destroyed for it. What have we've become?

 

[BoberFett]

Freedom also means the freedom to not associate with those you find objectionable, choose not to work with those whom you find objectionable, and the ability to publicly speak out against those who you think are bad people.

Then as another poster pointed out, should this CEO be allowed to fire gay employees? Freedom of association, right?

 

[Texashiker]

Yet you seem to be the most focused person on this forum when it comes to homosexuality. So forgive us for wondering if you are just in denial.

Na, I am a lover of women.

What you want to do is not to have an opinion, you want to legislate your opinion onto others when their way of life does not affect you in any way.

Smoking crack does not affect me. Does not mean I want it legalized.

Andrea Yates drowning her kids did not affect me. Does not mean I want murder legalized.

 

[fskimospy]

LOL! Spin spin spin your boat. What a loon.

I'm not calling for anyone to be fired. Your lame ilk is.

Lets put your lame idea of "freedom if association" to the test, shall we? If that's defined as having someone fired over a political view, then the CEO should be able to have fired everyone who diasagres with his political view. That's YOUR very own spin saying this is merely exercising one's "freedom of association". I'm sure you'll spin it all of a sudden that this shouldn't be allowed to work the opposite way-out if someone wants to fire YOU for disagreeing with them politically, suddenly you'll probably see all sorts of problems with that. After all, that's not fitting in with your leftloon "everyone has to agree with me or else" totalitarian mindset.

Uhmm, he can definitely do that. Private employers can most certainly fire people for their political beliefs. It might be a dumb business idea to do that, but it is definitely not illegal.

Like I said, I don't change my views on freedom of speech based on their content, unlike you. You're a hypocrite.

 

[Matt1970]

Aren't bus systems operated by the city?

You are comparing a tax payer funded public service to a private business.




If I was gay, but since I am not.

Not always, and there are plenty of private bus companies.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Freedom also means the freedom to not associate with those you find objectionable, choose not to work with those whom you find objectionable, and the ability to publicly speak out against those who you think are bad people.

I find those who support invasion of privacy via the NSA objectionable. How can I get them fired with impunity?