After Supporting Prop 8, New CEO Brendan Eich Comes Under Fire From Mozilla Employees

[Texashiker]

And apparently the 14th Amendment that gives equal rights and privilege doesn't apply if you're LGBT.

Does not apply if you are a gay mormon and want 6 wives and one husband. One for wife every day of the week and a husband for sundays.

Or 4 husbands and 3 wives. And rotate out husband-wife-husband-wife-husband-wife,,,, every other day?

Where does society draw the line on absurd marriages?

 

[OutHouse]

The glbt community are one of the few groups who can call their perverted lifestyle normal, and expect others to accept their perversion.

No, the glbt community does not have the right to force people to accept their lifestyle as being normal.


Muslims can married girls at what, 6 or 7 years old? Should we deny Muslims the right to marry who they want? If you say no, then you are a bigot.



Mormons sometimes have more than 1 wife. Are we going to start allowing people to have 3, or 5 wives? What about husbands? You going to be ok with a woman having 3, 4 or 5 husbands?



Jews segregate the sexes because of religion, are you ok with that?



Why should we go out of our way to protect the glbt lifestyle, but refuse to accept other lifestyles?

like you forcing them to live in the shadows

no they cant

if everybody involved freely wants a marriage like that then who gives a fuck

please provide an example of this

who is this we? you dont speak for me, why not just say I or me just to keep it real.

 

[OutHouse]

Does not apply if you are a gay mormon and want 6 wives and one husband. One for wife every day of the week and a husband for sundays.

Or 4 husbands and 3 wives. And rotate out husband-wife-husband-wife-husband-wife,,,, every other day?

Where does society draw the line on absurd marriages?

you are full of hate arent you. if a gay mormon wants 6 wifes and they all want him and want a life like that who are you to say no?

 

[Texashiker]

please provide an example of this

I guess you meant the jew comment?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/n...ews-hold-rally-on-internet-at-citi-field.html

No women allowed. But I do not see anyone complaining when women are discriminated against.

Jews discriminate against women, nobody complains.

Conservatives discriminate against gays, we are bigots.

you are full of hate arent you.

No, I am not full of hate. But I do expect people to live by similar standards.

Granting one group special rights due to a perverted lifestyle is not acceptable.

 

[fskimospy]

Conform or be cast out, eh?

That's basically what prop 8 said, yes.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

 

[fskimospy]

I guess you meant the jew comment?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/n...ews-hold-rally-on-internet-at-citi-field.html

No women allowed. But I do not see anyone complaining when women are discriminated against.

Jews discriminate against women, nobody complains.

Conservatives discriminate against gays, we are bigots.

No, I am not full of hate. But I do expect people to live by similar standards.

Granting one group special rights due to a perverted lifestyle is not acceptable.

Lots of people complain about how the ultra orthodox treat women. They don't try to use the power of government to codify their bigotry, however. Unlike many US conservatives.

 

[Texashiker]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

Gays expect there to be no consequences for living a perverted lifestyle.

Lots of people complain about how the ultra orthodox treat women.

When are we going to see the justice department suing jewish stores who refuse to sell to scanty clad women?

 

[OutHouse]

No, I am not full of hate. But I do expect people to live by similar standards.

Granting one group special rights due to a perverted lifestyle is not acceptable.

land of the free pal. dont like it move to russia.

 

[Perknose]

Conform or be cast out, eh?

Isn't that exactly what this bigoted pos supported with Prop 8, or is your outrage that selective?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Gays expect there to be no consequences for living a perverted lifestyle.

Who gets to define what's perverse? If you ask me, teaching a child that homosexuals are an abomination against God is a form of child abuse, and far worse than what two consenting adults choose to do in their bedrooms, but you don't hear me calling for a banning of ultra-conservative religious beliefs as perversion. Who made you the decider of America's moral compass?

 

[Texashiker]

land of the free pal.

That is exactly what the glbt community is fighting against - freedom.

Cake bakeries should not be forced to serve gay marriages. The owner should be free to serve who he/she wants.

If a muslim does not want to serve pork or alchol, why make a big deal out of it?

Jews do not want scanty clad women in their store, why make a big deal out of it?

The glbt community has become the monster they are fighting against.

Who gets to define what's perverse? If you ask me, teaching a child that homosexuals are an abomination against God is a form of child abuse, and far worse than what two consenting adults choose to do in their bedrooms, but you don't hear me calling for a banning of ultra-conservative religious beliefs as perversion.

Religion has never been part of my argument.

Who made you the decider of America's moral compass?

Freedom to choose our own path. If you do not like it, move to Russia.

 

[Zaap]

I support marriage for all (2 and only 2 adults, non-related, legal age, no other criteria matters) but I also support freedom. This guy has the freedom to support whatever proposition he wants without totalitarian-minded assholes trying to bring some revenge against him for it. (Like firing him over political views. ) Don't use Firefox if you want but trying to construct your own little fascist witchhunt against people is bullshit.

Edit to note my view of freedom bears little resemblance to TH's idiotic views. Sheer coincidence that he uses the same term.

 

[fleshconsumed]

The glbt community are one of the few groups who can call their perverted lifestyle normal, and expect others to accept their perversion.

Perverted, really? Says who? I say your lifestyle is perverted. There. You're now officially a pervert.

No, the glbt community does not have the right to force people to accept their lifestyle as being normal.

It doesn't matter if you consider their lifestyles normal or not as long as their lifestyle does not affect yours. And last time I checked it doesn't. Nobody is forcing you to become gay.

Muslims can married girls at what, 6 or 7 years old? Should we deny Muslims the right to marry who they want? If you say no, then you are a bigot.

You're comparing a marriage between an adult and a child who is not old enough to make a sound decision about his life, and LGBT marriage where both parties are clearly old enough to give consent. Are you serious? Can you really not see the difference between the two?

Nobody is denying gays equal rights. Gays can still vote, own a gun, receive trial by jury, open a blog, read a newspaper, go to a church of their choice. They just have to live a normal lifestyle.

Yeah, they can have equal rights. Just not marry. Because it's not normal. Got it.

Freedom to choose our own path. If you do not like it, move to Russia.

Except you're not choosing your own path. You're choosing LGBT path for them.




TH, you're a bigot. I normally stay out of these issues because it's not my fight. I passively support LGBT community because I believe their right to get married does not interfere with anybody else's rights, but I do not actively do anything about it because as I said I'm not one therefore it is not my fight. However, viewpoints like yours really get me upset. And I believe I'm not alone. I believe the only reason LGBT is getting so much traction and spotlight is because of bigoted people like you who draw attention to it. The thing is, everybody but you realise how bigoted you are and they push back. If you were smart and kept your private opinion to yourself, or at the very least not tried to pass laws that infringe on other people rights then there wouldn't be so much "persecution" of intolerance. The "oppressors" as you call them is simply the result of the pendulum swinging the other way because you and your ilk continuously try to force your beliefs of what is normal onto others.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

That is exactly what the glbt community is fighting against - freedom.

Cake bakeries should not be forced to serve gay marriages. The owner should be free to serve who he/she wants.

If a muslim does not want to serve pork or alchol, why make a big deal out of it?

Jews do not want scanty clad women in their store, why make a big deal out of it?

Freedom to choose our own path. If you do not like it, move to Russia.

Businesses are subject to different laws than people, specifically with regards to public accommodation. If you are willing to sell a product or service, you must sell it to ALL members of the public, not just those whose beliefs you agree with. If a Muslim doesn't want to sell pork or alcohol, he doesn't have to stock those items; if he does stock those items, he can't arbitrarily decide that he's not going to sell them to African Americans. If a Jew doesn't want scantily clad women in their store, they can require a certain level of dress to be maintained, as clothing is not a protected class (which is why "no shirt, no shoes, no service" is a thing); they couldn't decide they're not serving ANY women. If a baker doesn't want to bake cakes for a gay wedding, he doesn't have to bake ANY wedding cakes; if it's not a service he offers, he's not required to sell it. But he can't arbitrarily decide he's not going to sell any cakes for gay weddings, as he'd be discriminating against a protected group (in some jurisdictions).

Freedom in America does not extend to allowing businesses the freedom to discriminate based on the personal feelings of the owner.

 

[fskimospy]

I support marriage for all (2 and only 2 adults, non-related, legal age, no other criteria matters) but I also support freedom. This guy has the freedom to support whatever proposition he wants without totalitarian-minded assholes trying to bring some revenge against him for it. (Like firing him over political views. ) Don't use Firefox if you want but trying to construct your own little fascist witchhunt against people is bullshit.

Edit to note my view of freedom bears little resemblance to TH's idiotic views. Sheer coincidence that he uses the same term.

Freedom also means the freedom to not associate with those you find objectionable, choose not to work with those whom you find objectionable, and the ability to publicly speak out against those who you think are bad people.

 

[jhbball]

That is exactly what the glbt community is fighting against - freedom.

Cake bakeries should not be forced to serve gay marriages. The owner should be free to serve who he/she wants.

If a muslim does not want to serve pork or alchol, why make a big deal out of it?

Jews do not want scanty clad women in their store, why make a big deal out of it?

The glbt community has become the monster they are fighting against.




Religion has never been part of my argument.



Freedom to choose our own path. If you do not like it, move to Russia.

Read a book you hick fuck.

 

[Retro Rob]

land of the free pal. dont like it move to russia.

Actually, freedom isn't absolute and simply cannot be. Can I live my life "as I see fit" if I think it's fit for me to flash my junk to school kids everyday?

Restrictions aren't only rational, but are god-awful necessary.

 

[fskimospy]

Gays expect there to be no consequences for living a perverted lifestyle.

Well aren't you a vile individual.

When are we going to see the justice department suing jewish stores who refuse to sell to scanty clad women?

NYC already brought suit against orthodox stores in the city that were refusing to serve scantily dressed women a year ago. (the shops since gave in)

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...modesty-guidelines-in-stores.premium-1.503804

It seems like every single thread you participate outs you as an ignorant moron yet again.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

The "oppressors" as you call them is simply the result of the pendulum swinging the other way because you and your ilk continuously try to force your beliefs of what is normal onto others.

I like how the group with fewer rights has become the "oppressors" in TH's mind because it's becoming socially unacceptable to discriminate against them as was done in the past. Why can't these gays have the decency to pretend they don't exist and spare the feeble-minded from having to deal with the fact that sometimes men like other men?

 

[fskimospy]

I like how the group with fewer rights has become the "oppressors" in TH's mind because it's becoming socially unacceptable to discriminate against them as was done in the past. Why can't these gays have the decency to pretend they don't exist and spare the feeble-minded from having to deal with the fact that sometimes men like other men?

I always find it funny when people view their inability to oppress others as being oppressed themselves.

 

[Texashiker]

However, viewpoints like yours really get me upset.

Good. Means I did something right.

People like yourself should be moved to action after reading my post.

If you were smart and kept your private opinion to yourself, or at the very least not tried to pass laws that infringe on other people rights then there wouldn't be so much "persecution" of intolerance.

If gays were smart enough not to go around suing people who do not want to serve them, they might be more accepted.

The glbt community is acting like a bully. They are walking about with a pit bull on a leash in the form of the courts. Anyone who gets in their way, the lgbt community sends in the pit bull in to do its thing.

There is no difference in this prop-8 and a gay couple suing a small business owners. In both situations there is a winner and a loser.

The goal is not to win or lose, but to resolve the differences. When you have a winner and a loser, you have resentment. That resentment can caused long lasting anger that never gets resolved.

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Freedom in America does not extend to allowing businesses the freedom to discriminate based on the personal feelings of the owner.

I know that, it was just a rhetorical question.

 

[BUnit1701]

Freedom also means the freedom to not associate with those you find objectionable, choose not to work with those whom you find objectionable, and the ability to publicly speak out against those who you think are bad people.

Hmm, unless of course you consider homosexuals to be objectionable/the bad people...

 

[fskimospy]

Hmm, unless of course you consider homosexuals to be objectionable/the bad people...

Nope, feel free to speak out against gay people all you want. You can choose not to work at any place that employs gay people. That's your freedom as an American.

The rest of us also have the freedom to tell you that you're a reprehensible bigot. How fun for us both!

 

[Texashiker]

The rest of us also have the freedom to tell you that you're a reprehensible bigot. How fun for us both!

The honest truth is everyone is a bigot in some way. All we have to do is ask the right questions.

Sooner or later you will object to someone doing something. Then that person will complain their rights are being infringed.

It is impossible to keep everyone happy. Once people accept that fact the happier they will be.

 

[fskimospy]

The honest truth is everyone is a bigot in some way. All we have to do is ask the right questions.

Sooner or later you will object to someone doing something. Then that person will complain their rights are being infringed.

It is impossible to keep everyone happy. Once people accept that fact the happier they will be.

None of that excuses your behavior in any way.