After iraq is iran next??

[p4crusher]

Iran nuclear power plant under construction at bushehr and two recently discovered sites at arak and natanz could make the choice easy.
Israel already asked why a country with lots of oil needs reactors for electical generation. Will they destroy these like osirak plant near bagdad in 1981??

 

[dahunan]

Iran Vows to Retaliate if Israel Attacks

December 24, 2003

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1078&dept_id=151021&newsid=10712966&PAG=461&rfi=9


Iran says it would use long-range missile if attacked by Israel
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's defense minister said Wednesday that his country would strike back with its long-range Shahab-3 missile if Israel attacked its nuclear facilities.

Ali Shamkhani was responding to comments made last month by Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, who said Israel would not permit Iran to develop nuclear weapons - a hint it was prepared to take unilateral military action.

"We will strike Israel with all weapons at our disposal if the Zionist regime ventures to do so," Shamkhani said in comments carried by the official Islamic Republic News Agency. He said the Shahab-3, able to reach Israel, was one of the weapons that would be used.

The Shahab-3, officially deployed to the military last July, has a range of about 1,300 kilometers (810 miles). Israel is which is about 965 kilometers (600 miles) west of Iran.

Shamkhani's comments marked the second Iranian response in two days. On Tuesday, reporters outside parliament asked Shamkhani and President Mohamed Khatami about Mofaz's statement. The minister responded, "No place will be safe in Israel."

The president, meanwhile, scoffed at the Israeli words.

"Israel will make a damn mistake" if they attack Iran, Khatami said with a smile, in footage aired on state-run television.

Shamkhani said Wednesday that Mofaz's statement proved that Israel was "an evil entity."

"Israel is a fragile glass garrison," he said. "The Zionist leaders are cherishing the dream of a rule over the globe."

In 1981, Israel warplanes destroyed an Iraqi reactor under construction. Israel suspected that Iraq planned to use it to produce nuclear weapons.

Israel - and the United States - frequently charges that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and has often hinted at military action against Iran. Last month, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon took charge of Israel's efforts to thwart Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program.

Iran says its nuclear development program is to replace rapidly diminishing oil resources as a method for producing electricity.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

If Israel attacks Iran it will lead to all out war and a polarization of fundamentalists on a scale never before fathomable. As it is the Arab world beleives (on some level justifiably) that the war in Iraq was to benefit Israel. If Israel actually intervenes it will be seen as a war between America and Israel vs. The Muslim World. God help us if that ever happens.

 

[AnImuS]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
If Israel attacks Iran it will lead to all out war and a polarization of fundamentalists on a scale never before fathomable. As it is the Arab world beleives (on some level justifiably) that the war in Iraq was to benefit Israel. If Israel actually intervenes it will be seen as a war between America and Israel vs. The Muslim World. God help us if that ever happens.

Or iran fires couple missiles israel shoots them down, world calls for peace and then its over.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: AnImuS

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
If Israel attacks Iran it will lead to all out war and a polarization of fundamentalists on a scale never before fathomable. As it is the Arab world beleives (on some level justifiably) that the war in Iraq was to benefit Israel. If Israel actually intervenes it will be seen as a war between America and Israel vs. The Muslim World. God help us if that ever happens.

Or iran fires couple missiles israel shoots them down, world calls for peace and then its over.

The fallout from those missiles? Possibly/Probably armed with nuclear warheads?

Egypt has become one mighty miltary power that has been very silent...

Musharaff has had two attempts on his life in less than one weeks time... Osama and al-qaeda and taliban et al are trying to kill musharaaf and any semblance of westtern democracy in Pakistan - has nuclear weapons for sure

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
If Israel attacks Iran it will lead to all out war and a polarization of fundamentalists on a scale never before fathomable. As it is the Arab world beleives (on some level justifiably) that the war in Iraq was to benefit Israel. If Israel actually intervenes it will be seen as a war between America and Israel vs. The Muslim World. God help us if that ever happens.

There is no God, God is illegal so what would be the problem?

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, the Bushies definitely aren't invading anybody until after the election, if they win. After that, it would probably be Syria- smaller, weaker, also subject to simultaneous attack by Israel. It would also leave Israel without any bellicose neighbors, one of the obvious undercurrents of neocon policy.

The Iranians haven't been softened up by years of sanctions, hunger and sporadic air attacks. They're a lot stronger than the Iraqis were in GW2, the terrain is more difficult, and the reign of the ayatollahs isn't nearly as unpopular as that of Hussein. They'll fight, tooth and nail, as would the Syrians...

It seems to me that we'd do well to force our israeli friends into a peace agreement with the pals, something along the lines of the geneva agreements. That definitely won't happen until after the election, if ever. Invading Syria would give the Israelis someplace to deport the Pals- round 'em up, push 'em across the border, say goodbye.

Don't scoff, more devious things have happened, that's for sure...

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Well, the Bushies definitely aren't invading anybody until after the election, if they win. After that, it would probably be Syria- smaller, weaker, also subject to simultaneous attack by Israel. It would also leave Israel without any bellicose neighbors, one of the obvious undercurrents of neocon policy.

The Iranians haven't been softened up by years of sanctions, hunger and sporadic air attacks. They're a lot stronger than the Iraqis were in GW2, the terrain is more difficult, and the reign of the ayatollahs isn't nearly as unpopular as that of Hussein. They'll fight, tooth and nail, as would the Syrians...

It seems to me that we'd do well to force our israeli friends into a peace agreement with the pals, something along the lines of the geneva agreements. That definitely won't happen until after the election, if ever. Invading Syria would give the Israelis someplace to deport the Pals- round 'em up, push 'em across the border, say goodbye.

Don't scoff, more devious things have happened, that's for sure...

I dont see any othercountry being taken on until the size of the army is expanded.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Well, the Bushies definitely aren't invading anybody until after the election, if they win. After that, it would probably be Syria- smaller, weaker, also subject to simultaneous attack by Israel. It would also leave Israel without any bellicose neighbors, one of the obvious undercurrents of neocon policy.

The Iranians haven't been softened up by years of sanctions, hunger and sporadic air attacks. They're a lot stronger than the Iraqis were in GW2, the terrain is more difficult, and the reign of the ayatollahs isn't nearly as unpopular as that of Hussein. They'll fight, tooth and nail, as would the Syrians...

It seems to me that we'd do well to force our israeli friends into a peace agreement with the pals, something along the lines of the geneva agreements. That definitely won't happen until after the election, if ever. Invading Syria would give the Israelis someplace to deport the Pals- round 'em up, push 'em across the border, say goodbye.

Don't scoff, more devious things have happened, that's for sure...

I dont see any othercountry being taken on until the size of the army is expanded.

I also see that and respect it.. That is one reason why I hate that we invaded Iraq.. After 9/11 Bush had so many Americans calling to ask to be recruited so they could hunt OSAMA.. NOT Saddam...

Bush and the neocons really hurt/confused/alienated American Patriots who wanted to go to war and FIND OSAMA...

I know SEVERAL 40++yr old men who called up their local recruiting offices after 9/11 and asked to enlist... NOW some of them would rather see Bush behind bars before they would even let their own children enlist...

 

[Dari]

Iran already has blood on her hands many times over. She has lied about her nuclear program for well over 18 years. Now she is implicitly helping al-qaeda carry out her attacks against civilized nations. IMHO, it's only a matter of time. I say give it another 12-15 years before the ayatollahs are driven from power (if they don't take heed of the changes around their neighborhood).

 

[Aimster]

The Iranian people are not suffering. They are not to be compared to Iraq. The only country that has sanctions against Iran is the U.S. Iranian people have plenty of food and water and electricity. They have computers in almost every home with lan access in Tehran. Tehran is a very modern city and trade between Iran and Europe is high.

If Israel attacks Iran then Iran will launch their missles. Israel will not be able to destroy all their missles and you can bet they will be loaded with chemical weapons. Then what will Israel do? Launch one back? That will be poison for them in the Arab world. Egypt is very strong, but they are silent like one said. Saudi Arabia has some good U.S toys as well.
Iran also has a good number of planes. Yes, they don't compare to what Israel has, but if you send 20-40 of them in the air at once the Israel planes cannot handle them all at once nor will they have the weapons to do it.
Unlike Iraq, Iran can do harm to the U.S navy. They might not have a strong Navy (their navy is very small and weak), but they do have weapons that can reach U.S ships in the Persian Gulf.

As far as Syria, nobody in the Arab world is going to back an attack against Syria. Nobody in the world will back that.
Nobody will back an attack against Iran. It won't happen. The only country that speaks of it is the U.S, while Europe is shaking hands with the Iranian people on a daily basis.

Nobody wants Iran to have nukes. It is only a matter of time and by the time that happens the religious government will be gone and you can bet Iran will be a democratic state in the middle east.

If you ask the people in Iran what they want, they want you to attack them. They want the U.S to kick their government out like they did in Iraq. They want to be like the U.S. If you go to Iran wearing an American T-Shirt people will chase after you to shake your hand. If you go there and say you are from the U.S they will want to marry you so you can bring them here. The only problem with going to Iran and saying you are from the U.S is that the shop owners will raise the prices 5x on you because they think you are rich. How will they feel when they see their fellow Iranians dying left and right. That can quickly change and the best thing to do is to let the Iranian people do it themself.

Before 1979 when Shah was in power there was no religion in Iran. Islam was not practiced and Iran was very much secluded from the other countries around them. A small portion of the people practiced Islam and they are the ones who came to power when the Shah was kicked out. Shah was a ruler who benefited from the people and gave nothing back. This is why the Shah was kicked out. Khormeni came in and gave back to the people and spread his ideas around Iran by beatings, punishment and fear. The people are not afraid anymore and are standing up. The president wants a reform, but is stopped by the Ayatollas. The Iranian people do not want to live under these rules. Women have to wear a scarf, yet not of them wish to (majority of them).

It is only a matter of time.

 

[AnImuS]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: AnImuS

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
If Israel attacks Iran it will lead to all out war and a polarization of fundamentalists on a scale never before fathomable. As it is the Arab world beleives (on some level justifiably) that the war in Iraq was to benefit Israel. If Israel actually intervenes it will be seen as a war between America and Israel vs. The Muslim World. God help us if that ever happens.

Or iran fires couple missiles israel shoots them down, world calls for peace and then its over.

The fallout from those missiles? Possibly/Probably armed with nuclear warheads?

Iran doesnt have nukes and is still in the process. both sides would end up losing. though israel does have more nukes and a more sophisticated systems.