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Londo_Jowo

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There's no reason for anyone to do what you suggest. No picture is going to satisfy someone who decides to jump to conclusions.

I just came in here to see what Afghanistan is doing about this tragedy, what is all this stuff about who somebody is ?

Just normal forum nonsense, or is it important for some reason to question who and where somebody is ?

Can you prove he's not in the SAS ?

So far I've seen silly things related to what time of day he posts, or how can he get the internet ? LOL, both of those points are beyond stupid.

Military works 24 hours a day. Military tries to provide R&R for off-duty.
There's nothing unusual about what time of day R&R happens, or a soldier being able to post on the internet during R&R.

For those of us who have served, we see through JoS's bullshit.

Go look at the first post this thread, he clearly stated.

I have to go now..

Then in post #28 of this thread he stated:

You know what, GET THE FUCK OVER HERE!

Now was he already in Afghanistan or was he in the UK. JoS is so full of shit it isn't funny. If you choose to believe his bullshit feel free to do so, just don't expect many of us to join you.
 

Tom

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For those of us who have served, we see through JoS's bullshit.

Go look at the first post this thread, he clearly stated.



Then in post #28 of this thread he stated:



Now was he already in Afghanistan or was he in the UK. JoS is so full of shit it isn't funny. If you choose to believe his bullshit feel free to do so, just don't expect many of us to join you.

I don't see any conflict between post 1 and post 28 as far as the location of the poster, both are consistent with a person being in Afghanistan.

If that's wrong, please elaborate a little as to what I missed in those posts ?
 

davmat787

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I saw a segment on the Sierra bullet manufacturing company the other night. For quality control, they test fire 5 bullets in an underground range tunnel from 200 yards. The rifle used to test isn't a hand held rifle of course, rather one attached to a platform to remove all human factors from the equation. The trigger isn't even traditional, looked like it was electrical and fired via a foot pedal or button. It literally does not move its aim from shot to shot. So, with human and environmental factors removed from the equation, they shot groups of 5 within about a quarter sized group.

So sorry if I think shooting groups within a 20mm circle from half a mile away with a bullet that is 7.62 mm across is bullshit, especially when it is claimed to be done using a .30-06 "sniper" rifle and that the shot count is irrelevant to the group. I can shoot a 7.62mm group too, as long as the shot count is irrelevant.

The numbers just simply don't add up.
 
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davmat787

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I don't see any conflict between post 1 and post 28 as far as the location of the poster, both are consistent with a person being in Afghanistan.

If that's wrong, please elaborate a little as to what I missed in those posts ?

The internet access issue I can't comment on, but would an SAS officer go on the net and identify himself? Retribution is a bitch, and for that reason this is usually expressly forbidden for unit and family safety.

Now, how big of a deal is it is another question, and up to each to decide of course. I am sure we have all wanted to lie from time to time to try and bolster ones position, but it almost always backfires. Those who do and are in the know are usually the least likely to go babbling. Just my opinion.
 

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Hell he even slipped up in the first post of this thread about having to go (to Afghanistan?) due to the recent violence.

How about "have to go" as in goodbye ? CYA. Talk at you later.

Like I have to go.. (do something.)
 
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The internet access issue I can't comment on, but would an SAS officer go on the net and identify himself? Retribution is a bitch, and for that reason this is usually expressly forbidden for unit and family safety.

Now, how big of a deal is it is another question, and up to each to decide of course. I am sure we have all wanted to lie from time to time to try and bolster ones position, but it almost always backfires. Those who do and are in the know are usually the least likely to go babbling. Just my opinion.

I'm not going to read all his posts, did he post the coordinates where he is ? How did he identify himself, other than somebody who might be named John who might be from Sheffield.

I don't think there's any mystery there are SAS people in Afghanistan, how does saying that create a target ?
 

davmat787

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I'm not going to read all his posts...

I'm not going to put more words into trying to dump on him, it is what it is and not worth the time to dig up everything you are asking for when you are obviously looking to refute it. Which is fine of course but if you wish to do so, you would need to use his words along with the posts around them anyway. Tis all, gday.
 

Londo_Jowo

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How about "have to go" as in goodbye ? CYA. Talk at you later.

Like I have to go.. (do something.)

Go back and look at JoS's post times on 4/1, he went out, killed the enemy, and was back posting within 3-4 hours? Also his post times in the forum are more consistent with with someone from the UK rather than someone that's in Afghanistan.
 

werepossum

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Go back and look at JoS's post times on 4/1, he went out, killed the enemy, and was back posting within 3-4 hours? Also his post times in the forum are more consistent with with someone from the UK rather than someone that's in Afghanistan.
I actually checked with a mod and JoS actually was posting from Afghanistan, so I now take him at his word. Those of you with current military experience working with British troops could perhaps judge better for yourselves, but having no personal SAS acquaintances to judge him by and knowing he is in-country, I accept that he is who and what he says.

Not that he cares, I'm just saying.
 

Abwx

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Do they have a SAS pack for COD? If so, that is the only way he's a super, not so secret SAS man.

Dont know, but i suppose that to be victorious, they need to be
10 vs 1 wounded enemy fighter like in the 40s when 3000 uk
tanks didn t manage to outrun 300 tanks from the Afrika Korps...
 

woolfe9999

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That's great, please have the same said Mod post that information in this thread.

Mods are under no obligation to post such information to satisfy your personal skepticism. You have given no reason for not taking Werepossum at his word regarding what the mod told him. It appears that you just want to be skeptical of JoS for whatever reason.
 

Tom

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Howcome no one ever comes forward to defend you then? No one here believes you, at all.

I'm 100% positive that no British officer would conduct themselves the way you do. Certainly not an officer of the SAS.

According to Werepossum's contact with a mod, he is posting from Afghanistan. You think he's a liar ?

If you are wrong, who's going to defend your conduct ?
 

xj0hnx

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I actually checked with a mod and JoS actually was posting from Afghanistan, so I now take him at his word. Those of you with current military experience working with British troops could perhaps judge better for yourselves, but having no personal SAS acquaintances to judge him by and knowing he is in-country, I accept that he is who and what he says.

Not that he cares, I'm just saying.

Posting from Afghanistan doesn't mean anything other than he is in Afghanistan. Special Forces are professional soldiers, I've seen very little professional coming from JoS. I find it slightly contradictory that he makes so many claims of secrecy, and talks opsec, then talks himself and being SAS up so much, and usually in a manner to, as mentioned by Davmat787, to bolster a position of his.
 

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Posting from Afghanistan doesn't mean anything other than he is in Afghanistan. Special Forces are professional soldiers, I've seen very little professional coming from JoS. I find it slightly contradictory that he makes so many claims of secrecy, and talks opsec, then talks himself and being SAS up so much, and usually in a manner to, as mentioned by Davmat787, to bolster a position of his.

You know, there's a big distinction between not liking someone's posts, and saying someone is lying about where they are, and what they do. For no real reason other than you don't approve of his manner, or don't like what he says.

How "professional" is it, for you to question the veracity of a person, based on the things you've just posted ? There's nothing in your post except you don't like what he says, or the way he says it.
 

Nebor

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Posting from Afghanistan doesn't mean anything other than he is in Afghanistan. Special Forces are professional soldiers, I've seen very little professional coming from JoS. I find it slightly contradictory that he makes so many claims of secrecy, and talks opsec, then talks himself and being SAS up so much, and usually in a manner to, as mentioned by Davmat787, to bolster a position of his.

Exactly. Those of us who are currently serving in the military and those who have served before know how Special Forces conduct themselves. They're called "quiet professionals" for a reason. They don't go blabbing and bragging about it at every opportunity. And British officers are even more poised and discrete than American officers.

JoS has claimed that he's allowed to take his military weapons back to his house in the UK. He's claimed that he can shoot a 20mm group with a 30-06 "sniper" rifle at half a mile (literally an impossible feat with any weapon in the world.) In this very thread he's claimed that the SAS uses TOR to mask their IP addresses. He is absolutely full of shit. If he actually is posting from Afghanistan, which I seriously doubt, then he's probably a British civilian contractor sitting on Kandahar Airfield or Bagram Airfield watching black helicopters take off at 2300 and fantasizing about being one of the actual SOF troops on board.

Simply put, SAS officers don't behave like JoS does. They're the best of the best, the most professional amongst a small group of professionals. He reflects none of that in the way he speaks to others, speaks of himself or the wild claims he's constantly making.

What I'm asking of him isn't difficult. I can take a picture of a big middle finger next to a Mk19 40mm fully automatic grenade launcher next week with the words "JoS is totally fake." There's absolutely no reason he couldn't provide proof that he's even in the UK military. If he was claiming to be dating a supermodel, you would all demand photo proof because there aren't that many supermodels in the world. Well claiming to be in the SAS is pretty much the same thing, and it's wholly unbelievable without proof.
 

Nebor

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You know, there's a big distinction between not liking someone's posts, and saying someone is lying about where they are, and what they do. For no real reason other than you don't approve of his manner, or don't like what he says.

How "professional" is it, for you to question the veracity of a person, based on the things you've just posted ? There's nothing in your post except you don't like what he says, or the way he says it.

Uh, it's extremely "professional" to defend your profession from people falsely claiming to be at the pinnacle of it. Here in the United States, what JoS is doing is actually ILLEGAL. Claiming to be Special Forces when you're not? There are several large organizations that exist only to verify if a US service member was actually in the special forces. Unfortunately I know of no such organization for the British SAS, or I'd have about 50 links to send them.
 

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Uh, it's extremely "professional" to defend your profession from people falsely claiming to be at the pinnacle of it. Here in the United States, what JoS is doing is actually ILLEGAL. Claiming to be Special Forces when you're not? There are several large organizations that exist only to verify if a US service member was actually in the special forces. Unfortunately I know of no such organization for the British SAS, or I'd have about 50 links to send them.

So now you are accusing someone of commiting a crime. Based on what evidence ?
 

Nebor

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So now you are accusing someone of commiting a crime. Based on what evidence ?

Based on everything he says? Did you just skip over everything else everyone is saying? He makes outrageous claims at every turn, claims to be in the UK one minute and Afghanistan the next, has a LOT of time to post for someone that's supposed part of the SOF community in Afghanistan, particularly at peak operations hours for any sort of kinetic special operations.

If you're too naive or unfamiliar with the military to see through his very poorly constructed lies, that's fine. But those of us who ARE professionals in the military know that he's lying, and it's offensive. Otherwise he would answer the easy questions I winged him about Camp Souter, or he'd provide a simple picture of a hand written note next to his duty weapon, or anything else proving he's actually in Afghanistan.

Like I said, if someone came in here claiming to be dating a supermodel, or driving a Ferrari Enzo, you'd want proof of such an outrageous claim. Perhaps you don't understand exactly what the SAS is, but they're like the UK version of Navy SEALs. There aren't a lot of them. And they don't act like JoS.
 

Tom

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Based on everything he says? Did you just skip over everything else everyone is saying? He makes outrageous claims at every turn, claims to be in the UK one minute and Afghanistan the next, has a LOT of time to post for someone that's supposed part of the SOF community in Afghanistan, particularly at peak operations hours for any sort of kinetic special operations.

If you're too naive or unfamiliar with the military to see through his very poorly constructed lies, that's fine. But those of us who ARE professionals in the military know that he's lying, and it's offensive. Otherwise he would answer the easy questions I winged him about Camp Souter, or he'd provide a simple picture of a hand written note next to his duty weapon, or anything else proving he's actually in Afghanistan.

Like I said, if someone came in here claiming to be dating a supermodel, or driving a Ferrari Enzo, you'd want proof of such an outrageous claim. Perhaps you don't understand exactly what the SAS is, but they're like the UK version of Navy SEALs. There aren't a lot of them. And they don't act like JoS.

So in other words, you are willing to go on the record accusing someone of commiting a crime based on nothing but opinions, and as I pointed out earlier, very stupid opinions like thinking soldiers can't access the internet, or the phrase "got to go", can only mean someone is leaving the country.

Also, you criticize him for using his profession to bolster the weight of his posts, then you do exactly that in your own posts. A lot.