Afghan refugee attacks several on train in Germany with axe

[realibrad]

That's what I thought when I read your reply to my quote
But ya, Germany was already jumping on the US's Eugenics programs before WW2
Like the 1935 Nuremberg racial hygiene laws

What does the US have to do with anything here? Someone said Germany was being weak. You jump in saying they should be strong like they were under Hitler. I said there were other times that Germany was strong, and now you are talking about eugenics. Why? What is the connection?

 

[Orignal Earl]

What does the US have to do with anything here? Someone said Germany was being weak. You jump in saying they should be strong like they were under Hitler. I said there were other times that Germany was strong, and now you are talking about eugenics. Why? What is the connection?

I never brought up Hitler, you did

 

[realibrad]

I never brought up Hitler, you did

Oh right, bringing up Aryan Germany is not bringing up Germany under Hitler. Germany was always about Aryan purity right?

 

[agent00f]

So why did he hack them? What do you believe was his motive?

You're going to have ask the experts in the Minorities (are) Criminal Task Force whose profession is evidently bigoted speculation every time any darkie does something untoward.

This farce only serves to highlights the ridiculous confirmation bias, given if some crazy white guy attacked someone in a manner that makes little sense it would hardly make it past the local news.

 

[realibrad]

You're going to have ask the experts in the Minorities (are) Criminal Task Force whose profession is evidently bigoted speculation every time any darkie does something untoward.

This farce only serves to highlights the ridiculous confirmation bias, given if some crazy white guy attacked someone in a manner that makes little sense it would hardly make it past the local news.

So, we can never know why a guy aligned himself with ISIS, slashing people while yelling "Allahu akbar", and leaving a video explaining that he wanted to kill infidels, unless we view the actions through bigotry. Tough luck for us. If only this murderer had left clues as to his motive!

 

[agent00f]

To elaborate on the nature of this stupidity, when a racist sees someone of their own race commit a crime, they think "why did that person do it", but when someone of different race does it the only think "why did that epithet do it". Seems obvious there's limited space in that one-track mind for considering why somewhat multi-faceted humans do things. It certainly could be what that epithet entails, or any number of shared characteristics. In this case it makes no sense that someone looking to kill western infidels would attack the fucking chinese in a sea of fitting targets, but those too stupid to get past their one-track mind simply aren't in a position to "make sense" or "figure things out" for any reasonable conversation to happen.

 

[bshole]

To elaborate on the nature of this stupidity, when a racist sees someone of their own race commit a crime, they think "why did that person do it", but when someone of different race does it the only think "why did that epithet do it". Seems obvious there's limited space in that one-track mind for considering why somewhat multi-faceted humans do things. It certainly could be what that epithet entails, or any number of shared characteristics. In this case it makes no sense that someone looking to kill western infidels would attack the fucking chinese in a sea of fitting targets, but those too stupid to get past their one-track mind simply aren't in a position to "make sense" or "figure things out" for any reasonable conversation to happen.

Well if the Chinese were significantly smaller than the Germans, it would make perfect sense to me. Attack the weakest and smallest first....

 

[realibrad]

To elaborate on the nature of this stupidity, when a racist sees someone of their own race commit a crime, they think "why did that person do it", but when someone of different race does it the only think "why did that epithet do it". Seems obvious there's limited space in that one-track mind for considering why somewhat multi-faceted humans do things. It certainly could be what that epithet entails, or any number of shared characteristics. In this case it makes no sense that someone looking to kill western infidels would attack the fucking chinese in a sea of fitting targets, but those too stupid to get past their one-track mind simply aren't in a position to "make sense" or "figure things out" for any reasonable conversation to happen.

There are many reasons. Bshole listed one. Also, the rage of the society he was brought up in could have driven him to kill anyone he did not see as ingroup.

What is amazing to me, are all these attacks where the attackers seem to have one big thing in common, but we ignore it.

Religion can drive people to do good. It can't also drive people do to bad?

 

[agent00f]

Well if the Chinese were significantly smaller than the Germans, it would make perfect sense to me. Attack the weakest and smallest first....

But why would someone singularly motivated to kill western infidels attack the one family, out of a whole fucking nation of targets, which cannot be more obvious doesn't fit the focus of their hatred?

If you film this as a show people would think it's a comedy skit.

 

[realibrad]

But why would someone singularly motivated to kill western infidels attack the one family, out of a whole fucking nation of targets, which cannot be more obvious doesn't fit the focus of their hatred?

If you film this as a show people would think it's a comedy skit.

Because people with Asian ancestry can ascribe to western ideas, which could be assumed to be the case by the fact they were living in Germany.

Unless you are trying to say that people with ancestry that is not from a western nation, inherently cannot be western in ideals. That would be dumb though. You realize this guy was not a racist right? It was not about killing whites, it was about killing infidels, which Asians can be.

 

[agent00f]

There are many reasons. Bshole listed one. Also, the rage of the society he was brought up in could have driven him to kill anyone he did not see as ingroup.

What is amazing to me, are all these attacks where the attackers seem to have one big thing in common, but we ignore it.

Religion can drive people to do good. It can't also drive people do to bad?

Sure, out of something like a few million muslims in europe I'm sure there are going to be literally one in a million cases. Vilifying & ostracizing the rest isn't going to achieve whatever goal you might have in mind, or is it?

 

[agent00f]

Because people with Asian ancestry can ascribe to western ideas, which could be assumed to be the case by the fact they were living in Germany.

Unless you are trying to say that people with ancestry that is not from a western nation, inherently cannot be western in ideals. That would be dumb though. You realize this guy was not a racist right? It was not about killing whites, it was about killing infidels, which Asians can be.

Yeah this guy must've been a real enlightened individual who didn't want people to think he's racist.

 

[realibrad]

Sure, out of something like a few million muslims in europe I'm sure there are going to be literally one in a million cases. Vilifying & ostracizing the rest isn't going to achieve whatever goal you might have in mind, or is it?

The odds of me getting hit at a cross walk are very low, so I should not look both ways right?

Just because its infrequent does not mean there is not a link.

 

[realibrad]

Yeah this guy must've been a real enlightened individual who didn't want people to think he's racist.

I am saying there was hatred in the person that was gained from something you do not want to admit breeds hate.

 

[agent00f]

The odds of me getting hit at a cross walk are very low, so I should not look both ways right?

Just because its infrequent does not mean there is not a link.

It would be problematic if your method to avoid getting hit involve flipping off drivers and screaming that pedestrian-killing is inherent to driving. In which case it shouldn't come as a complete surprise when the occasional road-rager sees fit to fulfill those expectations.

I've mentioned in the past that I also agree to restrict immigration from regions where you're seen as killing politically expendable locals. They might possibly hold a grudge.

I am saying there was hatred in the person that was gained from something you do not want to admit breeds hate.

There's certainly something breeding hate on the right, but I hesitate to say it's religion.

 

[Orignal Earl]

There are many reasons. Bshole listed one. Also, the rage of the society he was brought up in could have driven him to kill anyone he did not see as ingroup.

What is amazing to me, are all these attacks where the attackers seem to have one big thing in common, but we ignore it.

Religion can drive people to do good. It can't also drive people do to bad?

Almost every single terrorist attack carried out by Muslims (outside of Daesh) was carried out for reasons other then Islam told me to do it, including 911

U.S. support of Israel[42][43]
support for the "attacks against Muslims" in Somalia
support of Russian "atrocities against Muslims" in Chechnya
pro-American governments in the Middle East (who "act as your agents") being against Muslim interests
support of Indian "oppression against Muslims" in Kashmir
the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia[44][45]
the sanctions against Iraq[46]

Yes, America seems to be one of the biggest common reasons
Even the story of Daesh starts with America invading Iraq

 

[werepossum]

So, we can never know why a guy aligned himself with ISIS, slashing people while yelling "Allahu akbar", and leaving a video explaining that he wanted to kill infidels, unless we view the actions through bigotry. Tough luck for us. If only this murderer had left clues as to his motive!

lol Well said. Not to mention that Afghanis are hardly "darkies". I swear, when proggies need to protect something they become highly sensitive to the slightest differences in skin color. Even for their normal high sensitivity to the slightest differenences in skin color.

 

[LegendKiller]

Almost every single terrorist attack carried out by Muslims (outside of Daesh) was carried out for reasons other then Islam told me to do it, including 911



Yes, America seems to be one of the biggest common reasons
Even the story of Daesh starts with America invading Iraq

9/11 wasn't because islam told me to do it? Please explain bin Laden saying it was because the us intervention in Saudi and desecration of the Holy Land.

Almost every single terrorist attack carried out by Muslims (outside of Daesh) was carried out for reasons other then Islam told me to do it, including 911



Yes, America seems to be one of the biggest common reasons
Even the story of Daesh starts with America invading Iraq

 

[Orignal Earl]

9/11 wasn't because islam told me to do it? Please explain bin Laden saying it was because the us intervention in Saudi and desecration of the Holy Land.

Occupation, not desecration, of the 2 holy sites

bin loved interpreting the Quran to fit his beliefs, that's what he mainly did in university
He believed US foreign policy oppressed and killed Muslims

 

[LegendKiller]

Occupation, not desecration, of the 2 holy sites

bin loved interpreting the Quran to fit his beliefs, that's what he mainly did in university
He believed US foreign policy oppressed and killed Muslims

Ohh, so it was islam.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Ohh, so it was islam.

You know how everybody here thinks your crazy, but you think your fine
Like that

 

[Victorian Gray]

So, we can never know why a guy aligned himself with ISIS, slashing people while yelling "Allahu akbar", and leaving a video explaining that he wanted to kill infidels, unless we view the actions through bigotry. Tough luck for us. If only this murderer had left clues as to his motive!

A 17 year old kid, 1000s of miles from home, probably not liked by the people around him, most likely took him a couple of years of traveling on his own to get there (meaning he probably started the trip when he was 14 or 15), a time period where he was likely raped or beaten or robbed or any or all of and possibly multiple times, and who, as reported in the media, had just found out a few days ago that a friend of his had died back in Afghanistan.

So, in the, I'm sure, rock solid state of mind that he was in, he decides, "fuck it, I'm a radical soldier of my God and I'm gonna go down fighting cause theirs no point in dealing with this shit any more."

Basically, he's Dylann Roof/Robert Lewis Dear/Micah Johnson/Jerad and Amanda Miller/fill in the whichever fucked up similar person.

He's far more likely to have come from something like the links below detail than anything else.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/d...ild-refugees-eu-without-parents-unaccompanied

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-fate-of-lone-children-in-calais-refugee-camp

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/12/almost-6000-refugee-children-missing-last-year-germany

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...panied-refugee-children-are-missing-1.3428840

 

[LegendKiller]

You know how everybody here thinks your crazy, but you think your fine
Like that

Maybe I just don't buy into the gaslighting performed by Ds who need a safe space.

 

[Zaap]

So, in the, I'm sure, rock solid state of mind that he was in, he decides, "fuck it, I'm a radical soldier of my God and I'm gonna go down fighting cause theirs no point in dealing with this shit any more."

Dealing with WHAT shit?

You're not even falling the fucked-up narrative your fellow leftloon put forward.

What the FUCK did the guy have against a trainload of people from HK?


Plenty of people go through hardship and don't end up going axe-murderer loony-toons on a train in Germany, shouting "Allah Akbar!" as you hack at innocent people.

Why is so hard for you to say it? Guy was a fucktard religious nut. His belief in some stupid bearded jackass's version of Islam told him this shit was not only okay, but to be rewarded in some bullshit afterlife.

Stop running from it and making stupid excuses for it.

What exactly do leftloons think is in it for them to whitewash radical Islam?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Maybe I just don't buy into the gaslighting performed by Ds who need a safe space.

What's a Ds?