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Afghan Man Prosecuted for Converting

Afghan Man Prosecuted for Converting
By Associated Press
Sun Mar 19, 7:50 AM


An Afghan man reads the holy Quran at a ...
KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan man who allegedly converted from Islam to Christianity is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be sentenced to death, a judge said Sunday.

The defendant, Abdul Rahman, was arrested last month after his family went to the police and accused him of becoming a Christian, Judge Ansarullah Mawlavezada told Associated Press in an interview. Such a conversion would violate the country's Islamic laws.

Rahman, who is believed to be 41, was charged with rejecting Islam when his trial started last week, the judge said.

During the hearing, the defendant allegedly confessed that he converted from Islam to Christianity 16 years ago when he was 25 and working as a medical aid worker for Afghan refugees in neighboring Pakistan, Mawlavezada said.

Afghanistan's constitution is based on Shariah law, which states that any Muslim who rejects their religion should be sentenced to death.

"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam. ... The prosecutor is asking for the death penalty."

The prosecutor, Abdul Wasi, said the case was the first of its kind in Afghanistan.

He said that he had offered to drop the charges if Rahman changed his religion back to Islam, but the defendant refused.

Mawlavezada said he would rule on the case within two months.

Afghanistan is a deeply conservative society and 99 percent of its 28 million people are Muslim. The rest are mainly Hindus.

 
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.
 
Originally posted by: Mani
Wow great - sounds like real progress has been made with the Taliban gone...

If the Talibanana were still in power he would have been shot long ago.
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.

I am afraid you are making an ignorant generalization
 
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.

I am afraid you are making an ignorant generalization

I am generalizing, but it's certainly not ignorant. Islam as a whole has contributed nothing to humanity as a whole in the last thousand years.
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.

I am afraid you are making an ignorant generalization

I am generalizing, but it's certainly not ignorant. Islam as a whole has contributed nothing to humanity as a whole in the last thousand years.

Wrong.Islamic civilization was far more advanced than Europe until around 1500 AD
 
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.

I am afraid you are making an ignorant generalization

I am generalizing, but it's certainly not ignorant. Islam as a whole has contributed nothing to humanity as a whole in the last thousand years.

Wrong.Islamic civilization was far more advanced than Europe until around 1500 AD

Too bad the culture hasn't done much since then.
 
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: alien42
can i blame bush for this?

No, as this is largely what the Afghan people wanted. You can, however, blame backwards, barbaric, useless Islamic culture as a whole.

I am afraid you are making an ignorant generalization

I am generalizing, but it's certainly not ignorant. Islam as a whole has contributed nothing to humanity as a whole in the last thousand years.

Wrong.Islamic civilization was far more advanced than Europe until around 1500 AD

Ok. 500 years ago. What have they done since then?
 
Civilizations come and go.This is history.You can't expect a civilization to reign forever
It's wrong though to stigmatize a certain culture or civilization by describing it as barbaric or useless.
 
"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam. ... The prosecutor is asking for the death penalty."

See bold part.

No, they're against all of them (except Islam)
 
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Civilizations come and go.This is history.You can't expect a civilization to reign forever
It's wrong though to stigmatize a certain culture or civilization by describing it as barbaric or useless.

OK, then lets agree to just use the term "muderous".
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Too bad the culture hasn't done much since then.

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Ok. 500 years ago. What have they done since then?

Why do you people think like this? Is it something to do with the color of their skin? When considering the Belgians, do you say - "what have the Belgians ever done for us?"

 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Civilizations come and go.This is history.You can't expect a civilization to reign forever
It's wrong though to stigmatize a certain culture or civilization by describing it as barbaric or useless.

OK, then lets agree to just use the term "muderous".

OK The US has killed thousands of Iraqui women and children.Let's call it "mass murderous"
 
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Too bad the culture hasn't done much since then.

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Ok. 500 years ago. What have they done since then?

Why do you people think like this? Is it something to do with the color of their skin? When considering the Belgians, do you say - "what have the Belgians ever done for us?"

Waffles, tasty tasty waffles
 
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Civilizations come and go.This is history.You can't expect a civilization to reign forever
It's wrong though to stigmatize a certain culture or civilization by describing it as barbaric or useless.

I disagree with you on the second part of your statement. Islam:

Executes people for leaving Islam to convert to some other religion.
Invented/popularized the concept of the religiously motivated suicide bomber.
Forces women to live as second class citizens (burqas, hijabs, and so forth). Don't forget the incident where a Saudi magistrate would not let a group of young women escape a burning building because they were not wearing properly modest attire, thus leading to their deaths.)
Does not accept criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, the murder of Theo Van Gogh, and the cartoon riot nonsense).

...and so forth and so on.

NOTHING positive comes out of Islamic culture, and hasn't for a long time now, in spite of sitting on the greatest concentration of wealth on the planet.
 
All i can say is i am glad to live in a country that allows me to be jewish, christian, hindu, islamic, mormon, catholic, whatever.

Places that force you to be a certain religion will never prosper. That is not freedom.
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Civilizations come and go.This is history.You can't expect a civilization to reign forever
It's wrong though to stigmatize a certain culture or civilization by describing it as barbaric or useless.

I disagree with you on the second part of your statement. Islam:

Executes people for leaving Islam to convert to some other religion.
Invented/popularized the concept of the religiously motivated suicide bomber.
Forces women to live as second class citizens (burqas, hijabs, and so forth). Don't forget the incident where a Saudi magistrate would not let a group of young women escape a burning building because they were not wearing properly modest attire, thus leading to their deaths.)
Does not accept criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, the murder of Theo Van Gogh, and the cartoon riot nonsense).

...and so forth and so on.

NOTHING positive comes out of Islamic culture, and hasn't for a long time now, in spite of sitting on the greatest concentration of wealth on the planet.

Well put, i say we just drop a nuke on the entire middle east, and somehow shield the jews from the blast and subsequent radiation. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Islam:

Executes people for leaving Islam to convert to some other religion.
Invented/popularized the concept of the religiously motivated suicide bomber.
Forces women to live as second class citizens (burqas, hijabs, and so forth). Don't forget the incident where a Saudi magistrate would not let a group of young women escape a burning building because they were not wearing properly modest attire, thus leading to their deaths.)
Does not accept criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, the murder of Theo Van Gogh, and the cartoon riot nonsense).

Those are statements about Islamic fundamentalists and fundamentalist govornments NOT Islam itself.

 
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Too bad the culture hasn't done much since then.

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Ok. 500 years ago. What have they done since then?

Why do you people think like this? Is it something to do with the color of their skin? When considering the Belgians, do you say - "what have the Belgians ever done for us?"

Yes, and I remember all the great contributions to the arts and sciences that Flemish musicians, painters and researchers have made over the last millenium.
 
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