Aereo was just put out of business by the Supreme Court

[glenn1]

If there ever was an empty threat, the networks saying they'd stop OTA broadcasts if they lost is a prime example. So congrats I guess, the broadcast networks bought themselves a couple more years of life with a declining and obsolete business model. Ask the telecomms about how that's working out with their POTS/copper wire analog phone services.

 

[SunnyD]

This is the exact reason that I think that we need to burn the the entire copyright system to the ground and start over. The system has become hopelessly corrupted and serves no purpose anymore then to be used as a big hammer for major corporations to smash any innovation that threatens them.

:hmm:

If by "copyright system" you meant "government", I think you'd be on to something with that sentiment.

 

[poofyhairguy]

This is the exact reason that I think that we need to burn the the entire copyright system to the ground and start over. The system has become hopelessly corrupted and serves no purpose anymore then to be used as a big hammer for major corporations to smash any innovation that threatens them.

We don't need to do anything that drastic. We just all need to switch our consumption to alternative media. Instead of craving content from HBO and network channels that refuse to detach from cable, support and watch Netflix and Amazon original programing.

 

[RGUN]

That's not what the article said they're doing, though. I know Aereo said they're renting antennae so you can watch local content, but the article said they're capturing content and retransmitting it over the internet. Or am I still missing something?

What does it matter if you record on DVD (as in your example) or record through cloud storage (as they were actually operating). The storage medium doesn't matter.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Aereo never was able to show that its technology worked like that at all. It only claimed it did.

Actually the SCOTUS seemed satisfied that their technology worked as they claimed, they just ruled that even working as claimed it was illegal. If it was just that they had cut some corner they, or a competitor, could just make it work that way and all would be fine. Instead we have the SCOTUS telling the public that ANY rebroadcasting, even from your own antenna, is illegal. I'm pretty sure that Sling box and Chromecast are now illegal.

 

[JEDI]

Just goes to show you, there's no problem for big content that money can't solve.

who or what is Aereo ?

 

[Hugo Drax]

Supreme court is pretty goddamn biased and in some ways corrupt. That is a branch of gov't that really needs to be overhauled.

The government is here to serve the interests of the big multinationals. If you think otherwise, your pretty naive.

 

[Zee]

The government is here to serve the interests of the big multinationals. If you think otherwise, your pretty naive.

go back to smoking your weed and blaming the man for everything you commie! D:

 

[poofyhairguy]

Not cable, but broadcasters. They are losing money. Ad revenue has been steadily declining over the last few years. I work in the industry.

Sure ad revenue is declining, that is because there are more options for entertainment than ever before. That is exactly why they are so desperate to get the kickbacks in fees from cable companies.

What cable kicks back to them for everyone who has the channel (including those who never watch it) is much more than a modern distribution platform like Netflix or Amazon would pay for the same content. They are trying to maximize revenue, which is the opposite from what you are claiming.

Their biggest threat was never Aereo or any new distribution platform itself because they can always shut that down. The real threat is a new generation that is more likely to watch random short homemade Youtube videos in their free time than consume traditional episodic television.

The traditional companies are going to milk the shit out of the older generations while they still can and then basically they will die (or at least their current form will die).

 

[02ranger]

What does it matter if you record on DVD (as in your example) or record through cloud storage (as they were actually operating). The storage medium doesn't matter.

I understand the medium doesn't matter, the DVD was just an example, perhaps a poorly chosen one.

 

[Zee]

Sucks for the investors that believed in cloud computing.

Pretty much the only plan B Aereo has is to buy 100K Slingboxes and rent out each of the passwords

 

[waggy]

based on the laws in the books now. It is the correct ruling.


corruption though gave us fucked up copyright laws. Those need a major change

 

[boomerang]

Supreme court is pretty goddamn biased and in some ways corrupt. That is a branch of gov't that really needs to be overhauled.

the dissent:

A Constitutional amendment creating term limits for the SCOTUS would deal with it nicely. Appointed for life? Why? Right now one member decides virtually all cases brought before it because of the split on the court. Why should one solitary person have that much power in the nation? That's a situation that could be in play at any given time with any given court but with term limits, it at least will have an effect limited by time.

Can we trust extremely powerful people to retire and surrender that power when they have become too befuddled and confused to think clearly? Maybe, but maybe not. Accept the position knowing it will be for eight years.

 

[smackababy]

The traditional companies are going to milk the shit out of the older generations while they still can and then basically they will die (or at least their current form will die).

They won't die. They will just shift to tiered internet plans. Want access to only Facebook and gmail? $25 a month! Add in a bundle of news sites? An additional $5. Want premium sites? Additional $20 a month. Want the "everything" bundle? $300 a month!

 

[smackababy]

A Constitutional amendment creating term limits for all political positions would fix a lot of what is wrong.

FTFY

 

[squarecut1]

I'm not sure about that. With stagnant middle class income and rising cost of living, people have to cut somewhere. Being gouged for cable TV does make it easier for a lot of people to just drop it.

 

[poofyhairguy]

They won't die. They will just shift to tiered internet plans.

Yeah sorry, I mean the traditional media companies are going to die, as in the networks, not the cable oligopolies. They are even more protected than the media companies and they own either side of the distribution. Cable companies are going to get theirs.

 

[momeNt]

Well the dissent gives them or other companies a way to actually work this kind of technology.

There are streams available, hosting in Russia mostly, to get live over the air sports. Judging by the commercials and quality, these are actually captured from antennas in specific areas and rebroadcasted by single hosts.

 

[Golgatha]

Damnit SCOTUS, you had one job!

 

[BoberFett]

If Aereo violates copyright, how is Slingbox legal? Or are they next?

 

[poofyhairguy]

I'm not sure about that. With stagnant middle class income and rising cost of living, people have to cut somewhere. Being gouged for cable TV does make it easier for a lot of people to just drop it.

Bread and circuses. People will stop paying credit cards or mortgages before they lose their access to football or their iPhone.

 

[Golgatha]

If Aereo violates copyright, how is Slingbox legal? Or are they next?

They're next.

 

[JimKiler]

I agree what Aereo was doing is illegal. They could provide no evidence they were operating how they claimed; providing each individual with a rented antenna for local content. They were, instead, simply collecting the OTA feeds and rebroadcasting them over the internet for profit.

If you really thought they would win, you're an idiot.

Yet despite it being illegal how does Aereo harm the TV industry? Please explain that to me, i have not seen anyone show how harm is performed by Aereo.

 

[DCal430]

Actually the SCOTUS seemed satisfied that their technology worked as they claimed, they just ruled that even working as claimed it was illegal. If it was just that they had cut some corner they, or a competitor, could just make it work that way and all would be fine. Instead we have the SCOTUS telling the public that ANY rebroadcasting, even from your own antenna, is illegal. I'm pretty sure that Sling box and Chromecast are now illegal.

That isn't correct at all. The court only said it didn't mater if it worked like they claimed. The court specifically says aereo claims it works like this, and not that it actually does.

 

[momeNt]

If Aereo violates copyright, how is Slingbox legal? Or are they next?

Slingbox is your own "Antenna" although I think it actually might not use your antenna and internet to send out the signal to your phone or computer.