I'm getting ready to build a couple "lower end" game machines. Since I'm doing 2 machines I can't go with top of line. I read the guide on value gaming rig by Anand. they liked the MSI kt3ultra. I see now that there is an ultra 2 also. I don't know what the difference is yet. I also saw another MSI board, KV7 or something. I'll probably go with an athlon to keep the price down. That board also has onboard sound so that saves me some too. Any suggestions on these MSI boards or if you have a better idea I welcome that. Thanks in advance.