Advice to HS and College students having trouble in school

gopunk

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DO WHAT YOU ENJOY

i know it's like a cliche and trite, but goddammit, listen to me. i was a freshman once. a sophomore. i thought i was fairly bright. so why was i getting 2.9's in my classs? or even a 1.5 once? averaging around 3.0 a quarter?

because i was pre-med, and in it for the money. then i took a programming class, and realized that CS was for me... i've been getting like 3.8-4.0 quarters ever since.

even if the courses themselves are not relevant to what you love, you'll find that your attitude and study habits will be pulled upwards by the classes that you DO enjoy. you will want to learn more, you will want to talk to the professor after class, you will want to do your HW, you will want to do all this proactive stuff that magically leads to you actually learning more and thus doing a lot better in your classes.

being successful requires a lot of hard work. don't let the media fool you, with images of people who are just magically good at things, like goodwill hunting. that only happens in the movies, if you spend your time waiting for something like that to happen, you'll be waiting for quite a while. the trick is to have that DRIVE, that force pushing you to do all that hard work. love for a subject can be a much better drive than pure greed, in many cases.

even if you manage to get through and get a degree in some lucrative field that you don't love, you're just going to spend your time doing something you don't enjoy. even if it means you can retire a few years earlier, you have still spent your youth basically suffering. just think about that.
 

Platypus

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More true words have never been spoken, I've been there too and I can tell you just do what you want, not what makes you money.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: dethman
duh.

you can say that but you'd be surprised how many people force themselves to go into some field they don't like, just so they can make more money when they graduate.
 

Lithium381

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yep i'm sliding by sitting on a 3.0 right now overall after my first semester of college....haven't decided wht i want to do yet :-\
 

Darein

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I guess I haven't found something I like, going by the gpa. Too late to change now. And I don't regret it either. :)
 

FuZoR

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what if you really dont like anything ;-)

right now im taking core courses that all freshmans must take... and let me tell you they suck!

haha.
 

newbiepcuser

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Originally posted by: FuZioN
what if you really dont like anything ;-)

right now im taking core courses that all freshmans must take... and let me tell you they suck!

haha.

Give it time. You'll find something you like.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: FuZioN
what if you really dont like anything ;-)

right now im taking core courses that all freshmans must take... and let me tell you they suck!

haha.

you have to take specific courses? ouch that sucks. here, we have "areas of knowledge" that we have to fulfill, and different courses count towards different areas. so there is some flexibility in that you can choose what courses to take, within those areas. like we have Visual Literary and Performing Arts... which can be fulfilled with english, foreign language, music, drama, art, etc. so students take a bunch of intro classes to fulfill those reqs, but also to test out different fields, to find what they like.
 

Cal166

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Majoring in Telecommunication and Minoring in Business. I know what am Good--Computer technician or Troubleshooting. Hate fact that i have to take programming classes like Assembly Language, C++ and Advance C++. Oh yea and 3 classes of Theology and Philosophy each. This semester am trying to get my overall GPA to a 3.5 to get into the Honor's Society. Wish me luck :).
 

cressida

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: SoloKid
what if you enjoy doing something but just can't get anywhere with it? ;)

such as?

like if you want to be a programmer and enjoy it but aren't good at it and you keep trying but fail most classes? What next? ;)
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: SoloKid
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: SoloKid
what if you enjoy doing something but just can't get anywhere with it? ;)

such as?

like if you want to be a programmer and enjoy it but aren't good at it and you keep trying but fail most classes? What next? ;)

practice practice practice
identify specific problems you're having and work on fixing them. for example, if you don't understand pointers very well, do a lot of practice problems that involve heavy use of them.
talk to profs and explain your situation, see if they have any advice to offer, resources, etc
talk to TAs
go to a cite like topcoder.com and practice.

i know a girl that was miserable at physics, but she was really interested in it, so she worked her ass off and is doing fine now. internships with nasa and the such.

it'll obviously take you longer to get good at something you weren't originally good at, but i don't think it's impossible.

or... you can find something else you love :p if it is your only true passion, then by god, get good at it :p

and i don't mean to say that if you enjoy it you will necessarily get good grades. but what i am saying is that it is more likely and more likely difficult to get good grades when you're in a major you don't like, than when you're in a major you love.
 

xospec1alk

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i dunno...im in love with programming, yet i still can't manage to pull good grades....bah
 

LordSnailz

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a couple things -

before going off and selecting a major you like or will have fun in, make damm sure that you gave it your absolute all before bailing ... many times some dedication is all it takes to do well ...

secondly, when selecting a major "you like" make sure it's a major that will help you in the future, don't pick one that will give you a high GPA but won't do squat for you when you graduate.

I have many friends who regret quitting out of EE so early, only to graduate and have crappy job. I rather work my @ss off for 4 yrs. and have a nice job than go through college and get a crappy job for the rest of your life ...



 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: LordSnailz
a couple things -

before going off and selecting a major you like or will have fun in, make damm sure that you gave it your absolute all before bailing ... many times some dedication is all it takes to do well ...

secondly, when selecting a major "you like" make sure it's a major that will help you in the future, don't pick one that will give you a high GPA but won't do squat for you when you graduate.

I have many friends who regret quitting out of EE so early, only to graduate and have crappy job. I rather work my @ss off for 4 yrs. and have a nice job than go through college and get a crappy job for the rest of your life ...

ok perhaps i should have used stronger terminology, like LOVE. i don't mean just pick some easy major like and just goof off. no, i mean pick something you are passionate about. so you will naturally give it your all.

and you can always teach that subject when you graduate (goto grad school first tho) :) makes no sense to just leave what you love...