Advice on graphics card, blueray, and SSD? (and RAM)

buildpcjd

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Looking through the rules...

1. Use -- No gaming. Everyday web browsing, youtube, playing DVDs (and now blueray with this).
Some audio and imaging editing. No overclocking.

2. Don't worry about budget so much. $1,200 for what I specced out. I'm wondering about these pieces though.

3. USA. I'll order online.

5. Just what's listed below.
Graphics card... Probably heavily leaning toward EVGA.
RAM... As long as it's a decent brand.
SSD... Samsung. Either 850 or 950. That's the concern, 850 or 950.
Blueray (DVD/CD) drive (read and write)... I'm open. I just happened to see LG and Asus.

6. Rest of the parts are listed in the pcpicker build page.

7. No overclocking. Default speeds. I'd rather buy more now. I've never overclocked anything and don't want to mess with it. I might screw up and it might wear out the parts. Just buy more power to start.

8. Resolution -- 1920x1080.

9. When -- Before July 2016. I was thinking about ordering parts once I narrow down on these last items.

10. I've got the OS already. I am wondering about blue ray software. You need special blue ray software just to play a blue ray disk? (sound dumb to me, but whatever. Probably propriety garbage....)


I asked on reddit but it got buried. Then I asked on Tom's forum but that probably won't get much attention. I found this forum and remembered hearing about it before.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/4cktwn/advic...
I'm hoping for some more advice here.



I've got a pc building going here... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MjhsRB

Do you have any advice on the graphics card, blueray drive, and SSD?

For the SSD, it's either a Samsung 950 m.2 style or Samsung 850 Pro, the more traditional style. With this mobo the 950m.2 will use two SATA ports. pcpartpicker flagged that as a concern. What do you think? Go with the newer 950, losing two SATA ports, or stick with a more traditional 850? I like being able to stick the 850 in a dock or enclosure. I wasn't finding an enclosure for the 950. I'm not sure whether losing two SATA ports is a big deal or not. This build is probably what my computer will end up being close too. Not much to upgrade later.

Graphics -- Sticking with EVGA brand I think. GTX 750 was recommended. Is there a better options, like maybe a GTX 950? I'm slightly out of my element for graphics cards. I don't game. This is just to take the graphics processing off the cpu. Used with dual monitors, 1920x1080. If a GTX 950 is better and not too much more expensive I was thinking of upping it to that, but I'm not quite sure on the differences or if it's worth it.

I want a blueray/DVD/CD player/writer. Any recommendations? Good brands? Silent is good. I'll be sitting right next to this thing. I'm thinking it probably isn't a huge issue -- one drive is probably as good as the next. But some recommendations won't hurt. This is mainly for playing blueray disks and DVDs. I found these two below, but I'm not married to them. Is there a decent brand out there that's pretty much silent? (if that's possible) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007YWMCA8/?tag=pcpapi-20 LG Electronics 14x Internal BDXL Blu-Ray Burner Rewriter WH14NS40 - Bulk Drive - Black $51 http://www.amazon.com/LG-WH16NS40-Internal-Blu-ray-Rewr... $64 Is it worth getting bundled blueray software? Does it just play a blueray disk or do I need software? I saw Amazon had bundles. I could do that and get the software now, possibly cheaper.

And then RAM. I was thinking 16GB. I'm toying with 32GB just so I don't need to upgrade later. For either 16 or 32GB, any good brand recommendations? And what's the fastest RAM I can get that's compatible with this mobo (without overclocking. I don't want to do that).

Thanks :)


Extra note -- I don't quite understand graphics cards for GTX 750, GTX 950... Must be a model number type? And different manufacturers can make that? GTX 750 by Brand A and GTX 750 by Brand B? The same as you can get an i7 from Intel or an i7 from... someone else? (Or maybe only Intel makes i3, i5, i7...) Is the idea that GTX [number] is the same between various brands?
 

UsandThem

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It's your money, but based off of what you will do with your PC:

1. You could get an i5-6500 and never notice the difference between it and the 6700k. Plus, the 6500 comes with a CPU cooler.

2. Since you aren't overclocking, could save even more money getting an H170 motherboard.

3. Since you don't game, you don't even need a video card. If you must have one, maybe a GTX 750 or anything under $100 really. The GPU number is the same between different manufacturers. For example, the GTX 750 is the same chip. The differences ate the coolers, the speed the GPU and memory is clocked at, and depending on the GPU, how much ram is installed.

4. 16 GB of ram is plenty. You will never use more than 8 GB based on your usage. In fact, most of the time you will be under 4 GB usage. Any ram that the motherboard manufacturer lists on their approved list will be fine. You will not benefit from ram faster than DDR4 2133.

5. An 850 EVO will be plenty fast and you will not notice a difference in daily use compared to a 950 Pro. The only time you would see a difference is in synthetic benchmarks.

6. You will need to get software, free or paid, to have Blue ray playback. Some drives are bare drives, some are retail versions with included software.

6. The EVGA G2 power supply is an excellent unit.
 
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XavierMace

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Extra note -- I don't quite understand graphics cards for GTX 750, GTX 950... Must be a model number type? And different manufacturers can make that? GTX 750 by Brand A and GTX 750 by Brand B? The same as you can get an i7 from Intel or an i7 from... someone else? (Or maybe only Intel makes i3, i5, i7...) Is the idea that GTX [number] is the same between various brands?

Correct. Unlike Intel/AMD, nVidia doesn't sell the cards directly. You get them through a partner like EVGA, Asus, Etc. For the most part a GTX 950 (or which ever card) will be basically the same regardless who you get it from. Some use a straight nVidia Reference design. Some put a cooling system of their own design on it. Some overclock it from the factory. But under that cooling system a GTX 950 is a GTX 950 is a GTX 950.

That said, for what you're doing, onboard HD 530 will more than adequate. A GTX 750 is a waste of $120. If you end up doing something in the future that needs more than the onboard will provide, buy an appropriate card at that time.
 

buildpcjd

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Thanks. This helps narrow things down.

I'm looking at RAM now. 2x16GB sticks.

I see
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c14d32gvk
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c15d32gvr

One has a CAS of 14, one CAS of 15. 14 is better.

But the CAS 15 one is listed on the RAM spec page...
http://www.gskill.com/en/configurator?manu=55&chip=2484&model=2623

Does it really matter? I'd rather have the lower CAS, just because it's better. G.Skill just didn't update their page probably?

The mobo spec page says 2400 without overclocking. That's the highest, so I went with that.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-TOMAHAWK-AC.html#hero-specification

32GB... I was thinking 16GB at first. But then I'm thinking 32 so I don't have to upgrade it. Set it up once, be done, forget about it for years. Plus if I upgraded RAM in the future, I'd be paying twice, most likely setting aside the initial RAM I purchased.
 

UsandThem

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Thanks. This helps narrow things down.

I'm looking at RAM now. 2x16GB sticks.

I see
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c14d32gvk
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c15d32gvr

One has a CAS of 14, one CAS of 15. 14 is better.

But the CAS 15 one is listed on the RAM spec page...
http://www.gskill.com/en/configurator?manu=55&chip=2484&model=2623

Does it really matter? I'd rather have the lower CAS, just because it's better. G.Skill just didn't update their page probably?

The mobo spec page says 2400 without overclocking. That's the highest, so I went with that.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-TOMAHAWK-AC.html#hero-specification

32GB... I was thinking 16GB at first. But then I'm thinking 32 so I don't have to upgrade it. Set it up once, be done, forget about it for years. Plus if I upgraded RAM in the future, I'd be paying twice, most likely setting aside the initial RAM I purchased.

The cas rating isn't going to matter for you. The lower the cas rating rating, the better. However, the difference between the two is next to nothing.

You can put 64 GB in your system if you want. It's your money, but you will never use more than 8 GB based on what you use your PC for. 16 GB gives you plenty of headroom to begin with and I highly doubt you would ever need more. Just Google "How much ram do I really need". You will be surprised how little you need.

All that extra ram you put in there is going to be simply unused. It would be like you buying a GTX 980ti and only using it to watch movies.