Advice for a entry level gaming laptop

[agaitan026]

Hi im thinking in buying a cheap gaming laptop for example:

MSI GF65 Thin 15.6 Gaming Laptop i7-10750H 8GB RAM 512GB SS (gtx1660ti)

or

MSI Gaming GF65 THIN 9SEXR-249 Laptop (Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB) (rtx2060)

i will be playing GTA V, X-Plane 11, and maybe Fortnite. What you guys think in those laptop.

I know desktop are better but i need something mobile

thank you.

 

[Arkaign]

#1, try not to get something thin if you want it to game decently. All those slim ones will saturate the tiny HSFs and end up sounding like blow dryers when trying more than brief benchmark runs.

#2, if you can wait for more of them to appear, the Zen2 laptops (stupidly called '4000' series) absolutely crush Intel in laptop performance metrics. Like, massively. It's different than the desktop situation where AMD is better at everything but gaming, yet 9th/10th gen i7/i9 rule the upper echelons of high refresh stuff (because they just have big mature 14nm dies to throw mass TDP at). No, in laptops, the 7nm Zen2 makes the Intel options look archaic. And a side benefit to an extremely efficient notebook CPU is that it leaves more power and cooling resources to increase GPU performance metrics, meaning even if you had identical GPU in a Zen2 vs 10-series pair of notebooks, the Zen2 one would have noticable advantages.

 

[agaitan026]

#1, try not to get something thin if you want it to game decently. All those slim ones will saturate the tiny HSFs and end up sounding like blow dryers when trying more than brief benchmark runs.

#2, if you can wait for more of them to appear, the Zen2 laptops (stupidly called '4000' series) absolutely crush Intel in laptop performance metrics. Like, massively. It's different than the desktop situation where AMD is better at everything but gaming, yet 9th/10th gen i7/i9 rule the upper echelons of high refresh stuff (because they just have big mature 14nm dies to throw mass TDP at). No, in laptops, the 7nm Zen2 makes the Intel options look archaic. And a side benefit to an extremely efficient notebook CPU is that it leaves more power and cooling resources to increase GPU performance metrics, meaning even if you had identical GPU in a Zen2 vs 10-series pair of notebooks, the Zen2 one would have noticable advantages.

what about this one Asus TUF FX505 15.6" RYZEN 7 16GB/ 1TB+ 256GB 1660T

 

[Arkaign]

It's definitely better I believe, but a big investment considering it's on a laptop Zen 3750 (last gen Ryzen) 4C/8T on an old process node.

You've got to look for the 506 series for the current gen Ryzen model, its ridiculously better than previous gen Ryzen or any Intel laptop.

 

[killster1]

#1, try not to get something thin if you want it to game decently. All those slim ones will saturate the tiny HSFs and end up sounding like blow dryers when trying more than brief benchmark runs.

#2, if you can wait for more of them to appear, the Zen2 laptops (stupidly called '4000' series) absolutely crush Intel in laptop performance metrics. Like, massively. It's different than the desktop situation where AMD is better at everything but gaming, yet 9th/10th gen i7/i9 rule the upper echelons of high refresh stuff (because they just have big mature 14nm dies to throw mass TDP at). No, in laptops, the 7nm Zen2 makes the Intel options look archaic. And a side benefit to an extremely efficient notebook CPU is that it leaves more power and cooling resources to increase GPU performance metrics, meaning even if you had identical GPU in a Zen2 vs 10-series pair of notebooks, the Zen2 one would have noticable advantages.

like massively? have you really checked benchmarks?

YES most games 1-2fps advantage for 4800h, some games have a 1-2fps advantage with intel 9750, is it enough to base the purchase on? MAYBE, but im in the same boat looking for a 1000-1200$ laptop, i am more interested in the other features of the laptop like soldered ram, screen and cooling. the 4800h will defiantly last longer unplugged but most gaming laptops are not for gaming on the battery (at least with my son's use)

 

[Arkaign]

That's with an RTX2060 laptop spec, but granted GPU bottlenecked situations won't show anything too major (much like an RTX2060 will show a Ryzen 2700X/3700X/7700K/10900K all kind of bunched together in many situations).

Any CPU dependent section, and the better the GPU, the stronger Zen2 (mobile 4000) looks. The cooler operation and added battery life is nice too.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That's with an RTX2060 laptop spec, but granted GPU bottlenecked situations won't show anything too major (much like an RTX2060 will show a Ryzen 2700X/3700X/7700K/10900K all kind of bunched together in many situations).

Any CPU dependent section, and the better the GPU, the stronger Zen2 (mobile 4000) looks. The cooler operation and added battery life is nice too.

I would pay zero attention to that video. The top comment is calling the channel a fraud and that they fake numbers and do not even have the laptops. The fact we are not seeing afterburner info on screen, is a dead give away.

And you nailed it with AMD is crushing it, and cooler operation observation, as that is the most important thing in a gaming laptop. I do not care what the specs are, The cooling solution and design will dictate OOB performance. And if it is not up to sustained gaming, the performance drops can be horrible. I see reviews where OOB, the 9750H performs roughly the same, and sometimes worse than the 8750H. Depending on brand, model, and included bloatware.

I have a 2018 Dell G7, i7 8750H, 16GB 2666 (2x8), GTX 1060 maxQ, and I use a 6 fan cooling pad and use an aggressive fan curve (laptop fans) with it, to keep the performance smooth. It is the fastest solution to the throttling issues for the G7s design. As it has been almost strictly a vacation/holiday gamer, and used so seldom, I have not invested any time in throttle stop. To OP: those are all things to consider with gaming laptops, if you want to leverage the hardware to its best potential.

That GF65 has single channel ram so make certain to grab another stick if you buy it. Reviews for it are pretty good, and it will do better with 16GB dual channel.

Jarred is my go to for Laptop reviews, and it looks like the 9300H is the way to go. Unless you can find the 4000 series AMD spec the same within $100 that is.

 

[agaitan026]

I would pay zero attention to that video. The top comment is calling the channel a fraud and that they fake numbers and do not even have the laptops. The fact we are not seeing afterburner info on screen, is a dead give away.

And you nailed it with AMD is crushing it, and cooler operation observation, as that is the most important thing in a gaming laptop. I do not care what the specs are, The cooling solution and design will dictate OOB performance. And if it is not up to sustained gaming, the performance drops can be horrible. I see reviews where OOB, the 9750H performs roughly the same, and sometimes worse than the 8750H. Depending on brand, model, and included bloatware.

I have a 2018 Dell G7, i7 8750H, 16GB 2666 (2x8), GTX 1060 maxQ, and I use a 6 fan cooling pad and use an aggressive fan curve (laptop fans) with it, to keep the performance smooth. It is the fastest solution to the throttling issues for the G7s design. As it has been almost strictly a vacation/holiday gamer, and used so seldom, I have not invested any time in throttle stop. To OP: those are all things to consider with gaming laptops, if you want to leverage the hardware to its best potential.

That GF65 has single channel ram so make certain to grab another stick if you buy it. Reviews for it are pretty good, and it will do better with 16GB dual channel.

Jarred is my go to for Laptop reviews, and it looks like the 9300H is the way to go. Unless you can find the 4000 series AMD spec the same within $100 that is.

if i get
MSI GF65 Thin 15.6 Gaming Laptop i7-10750H 8GB RAM 512GB SS (gtx1660ti)

you think will be good? of course i have to upgrade it to 16gb, i will be using for fornite,xplane 11, gta v and some photoshop illustrator works. I think i have to go with core i7 right? or you think the 9300H will perform good for both gaming and photoshop tasks?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

if i get
MSI GF65 Thin 15.6 Gaming Laptop i7-10750H 8GB RAM 512GB SS (gtx1660ti)

you think will be good? of course i have to upgrade it to 16gb, i will be using for fornite,xplane 11, gta v and some photoshop illustrator works. I think i have to go with core i7 right? or you think the 9300H will perform good for both gaming and photoshop tasks?

For productivity, the i7 for sure.

 

[killster1]

I would pay zero attention to that video. The top comment is calling the channel a fraud and that they fake numbers and do not even have the laptops. The fact we are not seeing afterburner info on screen, is a dead give away.

And you nailed it with AMD is crushing it, and cooler operation observation, as that is the most important thing in a gaming laptop. I do not care what the specs are, The cooling solution and design will dictate OOB performance. And if it is not up to sustained gaming, the performance drops can be horrible. I see reviews where OOB, the 9750H performs roughly the same, and sometimes worse than the 8750H. Depending on brand, model, and included bloatware.

I have a 2018 Dell G7, i7 8750H, 16GB 2666 (2x8), GTX 1060 maxQ, and I use a 6 fan cooling pad and use an aggressive fan curve (laptop fans) with it, to keep the performance smooth. It is the fastest solution to the throttling issues for the G7s design. As it has been almost strictly a vacation/holiday gamer, and used so seldom, I have not invested any time in throttle stop. To OP: those are all things to consider with gaming laptops, if you want to leverage the hardware to its best potential.

That GF65 has single channel ram so make certain to grab another stick if you buy it. Reviews for it are pretty good, and it will do better with 16GB dual channel.

Jarred is my go to for Laptop reviews, and it looks like the 9300H is the way to go. Unless you can find the 4000 series AMD spec the same within $100 that is.

Funny you say don't watch or pay attention to my link but your link shows the same info!! The 9750 is close to 4800h and the 4800 is close to 9300h, you go on about how the 4000 is great but to choose the 9300h? I'm shooting for the 4000 series but it depends what the setup is. Of course screens quality should be a priority too unless you are not going to use it. https://www.ultrabookreview.com/36464-amd-4800h-intel-9750h/
Will add in a 2tb ex950 and 8gb stick if needed. To bad most lappy come with 512gb nvme already just a waste of $$ compared to diy nvme 2tb. If I can wait for 3000 series or get a 2070 for less then 1400 ill probably do that. Hate decisions. 850 for msi 9300h w 2060 on slickdeals today.
i5 9300h
rtx 2060 6gb gddr6
8gb ddr4 ram
512gb nvme ssd
backlit keyboard
4.10 lbs / 1.86kg

$839 with $10 coupon PSGP0520 Coupon expired, now $849

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Gami...9164.m5277

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Funny you say don't watch or pay attention to my link but your link shows the same info!! The 9750 is close to 4800h and the 4800 is close to 9300h, you go on about how the 4000 is great but to choose the 9300h? I'm shooting for the 4000 series but it depends what the setup is. Of course screens quality should be a priority too unless you are not going to use it. https://www.ultrabookreview.com/36464-amd-4800h-intel-9750h/
Will add in a 2tb ex950 and 8gb stick if needed. To bad most lappy come with 512gb nvme already just a waste of $$ compared to diy nvme 2tb. If I can wait for 3000 series or get a 2070 for less then 1400 ill probably do that. Hate decisions. 850 for msi 9300h w 2060 on slickdeals today.
i5 9300h
rtx 2060 6gb gddr6
8gb ddr4 ram
512gb nvme ssd
backlit keyboard
4.10 lbs / 1.86kg

$839 with $10 coupon PSGP0520 Coupon expired, now $849

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Gami...9164.m5277

If it's funny, why ain't you laughing? And do not take it personally, that channel is terrible, which has nothing to do with you.

 

[agaitan026]

so guys then you think i should buy
MSI Gaming GF65 THIN 9SEXR-249 Laptop (Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB) rtx 2060 ?

 

[killster1]

so guys then you think i should buy
MSI Gaming GF65 THIN 9SEXR-249 Laptop (Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB) rtx 2060 ?

NOPE, they just went on about thermal limits and to avoid a thin gaming laptop. Msi is not my favorite brand either. However it seems to be best bang for buck this day of the week. Whats your price limit? The screen also isn't as bright as other ips. Dapunnisher oops forgot to write hahaha but the link I posted had the same results. Very close minus power use.

 

[agaitan026]

1k my budget

between these two

MSI GF65 Thin 15.6 Gaming Laptop i7-10750H 8GB RAM 512GB SS (gtx1660ti)

or

MSI Gaming GF65 THIN 9SEXR-249 Laptop (Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB) (rtx2060)

 

[killster1]

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well its hard i dont want to recommend anything, here is a 4800h with 1660ti, i feel like the 2060 is a inch faster then the 1660ti with some games. on amazon it says 999 available august 12 lululz

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-IPS-Type-GeForce-Battery-TUF506IU-ES74/dp/B0865RZR9S

 

[Remobz]

I prefer the Acer Helios 300 2020 version. Or even the 2019 version is good as well.

Acer covers all the bases with much better screen as well.

 

[JoshuaM]

You can either go for Acer Predator Helios 300 or Acer Nitro 7. The only difference between these two laptops is about Graphics Processor and Memory. I personally use Acer Nitro 7 to play many games. It has excellent battery life and bright 144hz screen. You can also go for MSI GL65 9SC.

 

[GamingLaptop123]

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[Rameshkumar]

i would suggest below configuration is best gaming laptop.

• Processor – 9th Gen Intel Core i5-9300H
• Base Speed – 2.40 GHz
• Memory – 8GB DDR
• Storage – 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD
• Graphics – NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 with GDDR5 4GB VRAM
• Display – 15.6-inch FHD
• OS- Windows 10 Home