Advice? 1.33 @ 1.46, won't boot Windows any higher

Calim

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I'll admit it first off. I'm new to the overclocking scene. I've had my eye on it for a while, but having just gone and bought an EP-8K7A+ and an TBird 1.33, I figured I may as well try it out.

All's well and good. I bought the retail CPU, so I'm using the stock heatsink and fan. Yes, I know they're not what I *should* be using, but they seem to be working well enough. And yes, I'm using the thermal tape dealie that came with the box. I like it. I'm also cheap. And lazy. Arctic Silver was extra, and I was scared I'd break something trying to put it on.

Anyway, my CPU's idle temperature is 49º C, and gets as high as 55º when fully loaded - i.e. playing Giants with everything turned on. Motherboard temp hovers around 24º C.

I've been doing solely multiplier overclocking right now, being too frightened to screw around with my FSB.

I'm running steady at 11 x 133 = 1.46. Everything works flawlessly. However, when I try to up it one more - to 11.5 x 133 - I POST just fine, but when Windows (2000, of course) should be loading up, I just get a black screen. I tried increasing the voltage from the default (1.82) to 1.91, the next highest increment available. It'll boot then, but after staying in Windows for a minute or two, my system will crash and I'll restart.

I'm assuming this is a problem with my temperature running too high, though from what I can tell, the temperatures are basically the same at 11.5 as they are at 11. Thinking that maybe the increased voltage was too much for 11.5, I tried one more step up - 12 x 133 - and that too wouldn't boot, staying on a black screen when Windows should be loading.

What do you think? Is this a cooling problem? My processor being flaky?

Ideas, suggestions? I'd really like to be able to hit 1.56 (my friend hit it wish his 1.33), but, well, I'm not sure. What should I be doing?

And while we're at it... how do I go about checking the stepping of my CPU?

Thanks for your help. :)

-Calim
 

heffe734

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first of all...do not try to OC with the retail HSF that you got with your cpu...make sure you get a better HSF. Until then, i wouldn't recommend that you OC...
 

heffe734

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Also, you can check the stepping of your cpu when you remove the POS retail HSF and get a good HSF for OCing...just check the core of your cpu.
 

w74656

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do not use retail!! especially with thermal tape! 49C idle?? what are you thinking?:) my 1533@1.825v runs at 48C at full load.
first, check your stepping. i have a "9" type and my 1333 will not go past 1533 no matter what my MC-462 can do
second, get better cooling, if you have a "Y" type, then your stock hsf is your problem, you might get better cooling anyways

to check the stepping, look at your core and there should be some lines like this

AMD Athon
A1333xxxxxx
AHYJA...
Y(or 9)xxxxxxxx
1999

ok, i don't memorize whats on my core:eek:... blame me
 

Wind

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No O/Cing w/ stock HSF. I dun wanna see another fried birds !!! Get a better HSF b4 even thinking bout O/Cing on ur system.
 

m2super

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"All's well and good. I bought the retail CPU, so I'm using the stock heatsink and fan. Yes, I know they're not what I *should* be using, but they seem to be working well enough"
I had a globalwin cak38 copper cooler and got to 1.47 on my 1.33 axia tbird it would lock up anything over 1.47, I then bought the swiftech mc462-a and got to 1.51 so the hsf is very important in your chances of overclocking! Your stock hsf is not doing a good enough job, think about it at default speeds it takes 8 seconds to fry the chip with no hsf on, your running it overclocked with an average hsf!

My idle is 36c and 41c under load 150(fsb)x10 your temps are high in my opinion! Temps from a digidoc5 not the motherboard reading.
The 2 120mm(108cfm each) fans taking air in and 92mm blowing air out help with the temps also!
 

wesman

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I don't want to repeat what others are saying but...


My stock HSF was good enough to OC my duron 600, but then again I was starting at the bottom of the family and OC to the middle. Since your starting near the top (which is the max the retail HSF was designed to cool) you can't go much higher with that setup.
 

DimZiE

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Jun 26, 2001
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get a better HSF...

w/ stock HSF my 1G only hits 1164
w/ an FOP i could hit 1350

btw what is u'r PSU (u might consider getting a good one)