adolf hitler question for ss class

[fire400]

xplain plz

 

[Pacfanweb]

Yes, he was the Chancellor


Edit: He granted himself the title of Fuhrer as Chancellor.

 

[BigJ]

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrer

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BigJ
No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrer

Yes:

Führer was the title granted by Chancellor Hitler to himself

So does Fuhrer mean Chancellor in German? No. But he was the Chancellor, and he decided to rename himself the Fuhrer.

 

[IronWing]

Fuhrer was a separate title from Chancellor. Chancellor was his legal position. Fuhrer was more a propaganda title like The Big Kahuna.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ
No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrer

Yes:

Führer was the title granted by Chancellor Hitler to himself

So does Fuhrer mean Chancellor in German? No. But he was the Chancellor, and he decided to rename himself the Fuhrer.

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich), unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Fuhrer was a separate title from Chancellor. Chancellor was his legal position. Fuhrer was more a propaganda title like The Big Kahuna.

Exactly, so they were essentially the same thing, IMO.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BigJ

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich), unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

You did read the part in bold, didn't you?

So the question OP asked was is Fuhrer and Chancellor the same thing, and he meant with regards to Adolph Hitler. And the answer is, YES.

Now in other countries, no, but we were talking Nazi Germany.

 

[FoBoT]

do we have a homework forum yet?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich)[, unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

You did read the part in bold, didn't you?

What's your point? Chancellor was a very specific political position and used in a different context in the translation. You did read what I just bolded, didn't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany

So were all of those people Fuhrer?

 

[fire400]

if I get asked on an exam thisese kinda questionz, I better get flying colors on my examz.

thanks.

 

[Phokus]

Are you studying to become a nazi?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich)[, unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

You did read the part in bold, didn't you?

What's your point? Chancellor was a very specific political position and used in a different context in the translation. You did read what I just bolded, didn't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany

So were all of those people Fuhrer?

You keep on defeating your own argument. We are talking about Adolph Hitler, and Nazi Germany. Nobody else. He, as your own bold print shows, was simultaneously Chancellor AND Fuhrer.
So in effect, referring to Hitler only, they are one and the same. There wasn't another Chancellor while Hitler was Der Fuhrer. He was also Chancellor.
Fuhrer was just a title. He was already the absolute ruler of Germany as Chancellor.

Nobody else that has been Chancellor there has also been a Fuhrer.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Are you studying to become a nazi?

Hey, did you know that there was this KKK group that traveled to TX after the African American was dragged behind a truck by three Caucasian men, went to that town to put stickers and signs on the African American man's grave stone, most likely trying to anger the family and community or blindly upholding their ways of life.
Incident happend a few years before the millenium struck.
Just a thought.

Oh yeah, title: adolf hitler question for ss class

So, no. But out of curiosity to make it fair. You do know some of the extremists still exist?

 

[IronWing]

They are two separate titles. He held both (okay, he created one but that doesn't change the outcome). It is sort of like in the U.S. we have a President who is also Commander in Chief. These are two separate titles that are always held by the same person. In some countries, Pakistan for example, these titles can not be held by the same person (at least legally).

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich)[, unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

You did read the part in bold, didn't you?

What's your point? Chancellor was a very specific political position and used in a different context in the translation. You did read what I just bolded, didn't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany

So were all of those people Fuhrer?

You keep on defeating your own argument. We are talking about Adolph Hitler, and Nazi Germany. Nobody else. He, as your own bold print shows, was simultaneously Chancellor AND Fuhrer.
So in effect, referring to Hitler only, they are one and the same. There wasn't another Chancellor while Hitler was Der Fuhrer. He was also Chancellor.
Fuhrer was just a title. He was already the absolute ruler of Germany as Chancellor.

Nobody else that has been Chancellor there has also been a Fuhrer.

If I'm defeating my own argument, you're doing the same. He had two distinct titles. You support this notion of them being distinct by using them separately. He was Chancellor AND Fuhrer.

He was simultaneously President and Chancellor as my bold print shows. Fuhrer means leader. Like Wiki says, the title of Fuhrer unified the two positions of President and Chancellor, effectively giving him complete control over the Head of State and Head of Government. So those two positions of President and Chancellor were unified under one position as Fuhrer.

He was not the absolute ruler of Germany simply because he was Chancellor. He was absolute ruler because of the laws passed giving him that power, but he did not have an official title as absolute ruler of Germany until Fuhrer came along.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: BigJ

No.

The new position, fully named Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor of the (Third) Reich)[, unified the offices of President and Chancellor, formally making Hitler Germany's Head of State as well as Head of Government respectively; and, in practice, the Dictator of the Nazi Third Reich.

You did read the part in bold, didn't you?

What's your point? Chancellor was a very specific political position and used in a different context in the translation. You did read what I just bolded, didn't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany

So were all of those people Fuhrer?

You keep on defeating your own argument. We are talking about Adolph Hitler, and Nazi Germany. Nobody else. He, as your own bold print shows, was simultaneously Chancellor AND Fuhrer.
So in effect, referring to Hitler only, they are one and the same. There wasn't another Chancellor while Hitler was Der Fuhrer. He was also Chancellor.
Fuhrer was just a title. He was already the absolute ruler of Germany as Chancellor.

Nobody else that has been Chancellor there has also been a Fuhrer.

If I'm defeating my own argument, you're doing the same. He had two distinct titles. You support this notion of them being distinct by using them separately. He was Chancellor AND Fuhrer.

He was simultaneously President and Chancellor as my bold print shows. Fuhrer means leader. Like Wiki says, the title of Fuhrer unified the two positions of President and Chancellor, effectively giving him complete control over the Head of State and Head of Government. So those two positions of President and Chancellor were unified under one position as Fuhrer.

He was not the absolute ruler of Germany simply because he was Chancellor. He was absolute ruler because of the laws passed giving him that power, but he did not have an official title as absolute ruler of Germany until Fuhrer came along.

no i am confused. first you say NO he was not Chancellor and Fuhrer and now you say he was.

 

[Pacfanweb]

From your Wiki link:

"Führer (leader) and Chancellor" from 1934)

He was both. Therefore, during HIS reign, Fuhrer and Chancellor were the same thing...they were the same person.

Goebbels was named Chancellor by Hitler, serving for one day. He was NOT the Fuhrer. So they were different position at that time. But when Hitler was ruling, he could be referred to as both Chancellor, and/or Fuhrer. The OP asked whether they were the same thing with regards to Hitler. I say they are. How could they not be, unless someone else became Chancellor after Fuhrer ascended to be the Fuhrer?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

he was Chancellor AND Fuhrer, but they are not the same thing.

compare it to someone who is President and CEO of a company. He can be either one or both. But the President has specific duties, as does a CEO. Someone who is both does all the duties.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy
no i am confused. first you say NO he was not Chancellor and Fuhrer and now you say he was.

When did I say he wasn't? I said they are not the same position.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
From your Wiki link:

"Führer (leader) and Chancellor" from 1934)

He was both. Therefore, during HIS reign, Fuhrer and Chancellor were the same thing...they were the same person.

Goebbels was named Chancellor by Hitler, serving for one day. He was NOT the Fuhrer. So they were different position at that time. But when Hitler was ruling, he could be referred to as both Chancellor, and/or Fuhrer. The OP asked whether they were the same thing with regards to Hitler. I say they are. How could they not be, unless someone else became Chancellor after Fuhrer ascended to be the Fuhrer?

Because of the Enabling Act, on a technical level he needed to retain control of the Chancellor position because as Chancellor he was head of the cabinet. As head of the cabinet, he could enact laws without approval or consequence. If someone else was Chancellor, they could've effectively passed laws outlawing Hitler and his supporters, making himself the ruler of Germany.

After Hitler became Fuhrer, he gave the power of both the Chancellor and President to that of the Fuhrer. So effectively, the Chancellor position was useless. He could've had it vacant (like how the President position was vacant during his reign) or he could've just kept it filled to exert more authority over the people.

Fuhrer was the all-encompassing, absolute title for Hitler. Chancellor was just a title carried over from pre-Fuhrer days that was basically obsolete because of it's duties being absorbed by the Fuhrer position.

BTW: From Wiki, the title was Fuhrer und Reichskanzler. Take a guess what Reichskanzler means? Reich Chancellor. So he even made a distinction between the two positions in the title he gave himself.

 

[Mo0o]

Not the same. Fuhrer included powers of the Chancellor I believe

 

[2Xtreme21]

Jesus, how can there be so much debate over this?

Chancellor = head of government = prime minister.

Hitler usurped total control and declared himself Fuhrer all when he was Chancellor of Germany (appointed by President Hindenberg in the Weimar Republic). It was essentially just a name he gave himself like "Head Honcho," "Supreme Ruler," "Caesar," "Emperor," etc.

So if you are asked on a test if the Chancellor = Fuhrer during Nazi Germany, I would answer NO.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Jesus, how can there be so much debate over this?

Chancellor = head of government = prime minister.

Hitler usurped total control and declared himself Fuhrer all when he was Chancellor of Germany (appointed by President Hindenberg in the Weimar Republic). It was essentially just a name he gave himself like "Head Honcho," "Supreme Ruler," "Caesar," "Emperor," etc.

So if you are asked on a test if the Chancellor = Fuhrer during Nazi Germany, I would answer NO.

I'm going to fail my exam now.

 

[JRich]

Palpatine did the same thing.