Adolf Hitler is quite literally a Nazi

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MongGrel

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Vonnegut made an observation in "Breakfast of Champions" that Americans try to behave like the characters they see in movies.

I remembered this after viewing "The Bourne Legacy" several times, discovering it was released several months before Edward Snowden skipped to Hong Kong and then Moscow. I suspect that Snowden saw the movie, and then concocted his scheme. His "flight and pursuit" to Hong Kong seemed much like Aaron Cross skipping out to Manila in the movie plot.

I don't want to sound weird or anything, but I like ya even more now Bonzai.

*Cheers*

I think Snowden might have even had a few more factors at the time in play than that even, at the time.

Seemed to work though for him, considering the alternatives.
 
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BonzaiDuck

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I don't want to sound weird or anything, but I like ya even more now Bonzai.

*Cheers*

I think Snowden might have even had a few more factors at the time in play than that even, at the time.

Seemed to work though for him, considering the alternatives.

Snowden may or may not have had more than an average share of God-given talent. But his adolescence and even early college years followed the program of a major f***-up. I think he went to Jr College in Maryland and dropped out. He had developed skills in IT; one or both of his parents had worked for the intelligence agencies (I think -- CIA). This made it easy for him to get in on the ground floor.

The reason CIA can be vulnerable to this kind of nepotistic corruption goes way back in its history. The corollary exposes itself in the need to vet whole families in security clearance. So a 14-year-old who might accidentally see a sheath of papers on a coffee table after daddy returned home for work would have a clearance.

Snowden grabbed onto the orientation of "Libertarian." How much of libertarian writings he had consumed is unknown, but it would be at a level of any casual reader whose time was otherwise occupied in the digital realm. In this respect, he had a Tea Party orientation in his politics. And it's less likely that Snowden's readings in politics and economics were balanced across a spectrum of ideas, belief systems and philosophies.

So the fact that he deliberately imbedded himself in the national security apparatus even as an employee of Booz-Allen-Hamilton seems particularly obnoxious. Contrast his life with that of Daniel Ellsberg -- who had defended Snowden's actions. Ellsberg was a mature man of character. Snowden was a grandstander.

Maybe Snowden had "issues" with a parent. So this brings us back to the "six days that made the monster" in Hitler's life. Just to stay on topic.

I think Snowden was characterized as having a narcissistic streak: roughly 10% of the population has that orientation as a psychological disorder. In that respect, he had something in common with The Fuhrer. Or something in common with the LA-cop-turned-serial-murderer and cop-killer -- Christopher Dorner. Or something in common with a good share of Hollywood celebrities -- or any celebrities. Donald Trump, for instance.

Of course, I myself had been fairly narcissistic most of my working life. By itself, it's not a crime. At most, a justification for some . . . counseling . . .
 

Atreus21

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You know, on the merits I agree. It's silly to call anyone a Nazi until they start lopping off heads.

However, democrats complaining about Sanders being called this evidently suffer from a very short memory. Bush was called a Nazi. Alot.
 

werepossum

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This thread makes a clear and concise point. The Holocaust is not funny. It is not a joke. It is not a political tool. It is not partisan rhetoric.

It is the systematic extermination of 6 million Jews carried out by the Nazis.

People need to remember that when they claim politicians/people are Nazis.

This "parody" thread is not funny. Nor is it intended to be.
Agreed, and well done. But let's not forget the 5 million non-Jews he systematically murdered, not the tens of millions who died as a side effect.

Stalin was worse than Hitler.
True. Let us also not refer to our politicians as Stalin. At least until they have killed their first million.

For purposes of this project, let us also agreed NOT to get into abortion in counting that death toll.
 

88keys

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You know, on the merits I agree. It's silly to call anyone a Nazi until they start lopping off heads.

However, democrats complaining about Sanders being called this evidently suffer from a very short memory. Bush was called a Nazi. Alot.

We live in a time when pretty much every high profile politician will inevitably be associated with nazis.
 

cbrunny

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At least Adolf Hilter had the guts to kill Hitler. Did you even try?!

lol. In 1945, my dad wasn't even born yet. His parents hadn't met yet (My grandmother is from England, she and my grandfather met during WWII over in England).
 

IronWing

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However, democrats complaining about Sanders being called this evidently suffer from a very short memory. Bush was called a Nazi. Alot.
I, for one, never called Bush a Nazi. I called him a fascist fuck and a war criminal, and justly so but I never called him a Nazi. Actually, I called both Bushes fascists and war criminals. I even called Bush the Elder a treasonous bastard but Nazi? Nope.
 

Theb

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lol. In 1945, my dad wasn't even born yet. His parents hadn't met yet (My grandmother is from England, she and my grandfather met during WWII over in England).

Typical millennial, full of excuses.
 

cbrunny

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Typical millennial, full of excuses.

I was told in another thread that because I'm from Canada I'm not actually a millennial, even though I was born within the typical 'Millennial' range.

Apparently the struggles of this group of people end at the American border. Who knew?!
 

shortylickens

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I was told in another thread that because I'm from Canada I'm not actually a millennial, even though I was born within the typical 'Millennial' range.

Apparently the struggles of this group of people end at the American border. Who knew?!

Your education preferences and purchasing habits are in line with American millenials.

But you probably resent your parents less than the average American dysfunctional kid.
 

IronWing

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I was told in another thread that because I'm from Canada I'm not actually a millennial, even though I was born within the typical 'Millennial' range.

Apparently the struggles of this group of people end at the American border. Who knew?!

It's hard to be emo about the mundane when there are polar bears roaming the hood and penguins trying to sink talons into your skull.