Adata combo UV128 Yellow/Black USB3.0 flash drives 5x 16GB $18.49 / 5x 32GB $19.99 @ Newegg

MisterE

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Nice deal! I've started doing IT work again for a living (wasn't making it with the food truck) and these will be great for OS / Office / etc. installs.
 

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Hmm, thought that they used to have "Lifetime" warranty. Not that they don't fail, they do. In fact, expect a certain percentage of DOA out of the box. (IME) That said, they're cheap, and if you don't re-write them 20 times with boot images, they should last to write once or twice, and read from thereafter.
 
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Hmm, thought that they used to have "Lifetime" warranty. Not that they don't fail, they do. In fact, expect a certain percentage of DOA out of the box. (IME) That said, they're cheap, and if you don't re-write them 20 times with boot images, they should last to write once or twice, and read from thereafter.
Interesting. How bad is the warranty process? I still have some 'lifetime' sandisk units I have to warranty.
 

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Thanks. I was literally looking for some "smaller" USB drive packs for OS install drives. I was about to get some USB 2.0 ones, but USB 3.2 is even better!
 

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Thanks. I was literally looking for some "smaller" USB drive packs for OS install drives. I was about to get some USB 2.0 ones, but USB 3.2 is even better!
The best part is, they are USB3.0 (well, now "USB 3.2", but really, same thing technologically), and you can write on the back of them with a black Sharpie. Which is great for keeping track of your OS install USBs.
 
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MisterE

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I finally received my drives today, delivery tracking had them sitting at the local post office for almost a week. I like them, nicely constructed and pretty fast for large file transfers (I've benchmarked one of them a little). The 5-pack of 16GB drives is $20.99 now, so it costs $1 more than the 32GB 5-pack.
 

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I have the 16GB versions of these that were bought about 4 years ago and 1 of the 5 have failed so far. For 3.0, they are not very fast... but they are cheap and throw-away so you don't stress if you lose one.
 

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Rewrite 20 times? They should be good for hundreds if not thousands.

These do look sturdier than some, but I don't like sliders so I pop drives open, put epoxy in to strengthen them and fix them in the extended position. I suspect that a lot of failures people see are not from exhausting writes but rather that the PCB to USB solder connection fails so I carefully put a bead of epoxy there, taking care not to let it seep into the USB connector shell. I know it seems excessive but this only takes a couple minutes to do, and I've never had a flash drive fail that I've done this to.

Something else related, back when I got a Teamgroup C145 with a slider, I noticed that it has an access indicator LED but it is barely visible through the opaque slider plastic. Having it popped open, i observed the LED is on the trailing edge of the PCB, and all space behind it when extended is empty, now wasted space that just makes it that much easier to bump it while pulled into a port. I sawed off the back of the casing, plugged the end with clear epoxy, and now the LED is far more visible out the rear of the drive (lights up the entire epoxy filled end if the epoxy bridges to be on the LED) in addition to being very durable. It does not hurt anything to have epoxy covering anything and everything as long as the standard non-conductive type. I would not use a metal filled one like JBWeld as it may be slightly capacitive.

That's the nice thing about cheap products, you can mess around with them.

However if looking for a cheap slow drive, that doesn't retract, and has a unique (for plastic encased at least) single piece casing rather than two shell halves snapped together, the Teamgroup C175 is at a similar price point on Amazon.


... about writing on them, I wish some flash drives came with a matte white panel on the back similar to that found on credit cards for your signature.
 
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^ True but that should still be in a range of about 300-3000 for TLC or 100-1000 for QLC, with the 3D versions towards the upper end of those ranges.

It can be another reason to pick a larger capacity if the use allows it. It is not always easy to determine which flash drives support wear leveling, with some manufacturers/reps stating yes and others no, but I have to assume that the more modern controllers paired with TLC and QLC do?
 

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True but that should still be in a range of about 300-3000 for TLC or 100-1000 for QLC, with the 3D versions towards the upper end of those ranges.
I think that that's with "Compute Grade NAND", which is used by "real" SSDs, not flash drives. Flash Drives use "low-tier" NAND, lower at least than "Compute Grade", definitely lower-grade than SSDs do. It's one reason why 128GB-class SATA SSDs cost $18-19, while 128GB flash drives are $10-15.

It can be another reason to pick a larger capacity if the use allows it. It is not always easy to determine which flash drives support wear leveling, with some manufacturers/reps stating yes and others no, but I have to assume that the more modern controllers paired with TLC and QLC do?
Who says that controllers used in consumer-grade flash drives are "modern". I wouldn't assume any features, at least at the lower price-points. Maybe Sandisk and Samsung (two top-tier flash-drive makers) might, but lower-grade stuff like Adata's non-"Pro" drives, probably not.
 

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^ I have never seen any testing nor statement from a memory company that would indicate any less than hundreds using existing flash tech, for both the USB flash drives and the non-high-endurance mSD/SD cards. Have you seen otherwise?

A controller being modern enough to support wear leaving wouldn't have to be all that modern. Here's a topic from 3 years ago about existing controllers at the time, including links and statements like "Phison USB 3.0 flash controllers support static (ie, Global) wear leveling", and it wouldn't surprise me if every USB3 flash controller supports at least the static form of it, at least from popular brands rather than generic chinese mystery sticks.


I reject your version of reality. ;)

How the heck did I manage to invest so much time into USB flash drives? Some would now think I'm on a crusade or something, but just intent to keep up doing what works for me, accepting that TLC and QLC are lower write cycles, but not as low as dozens, "yet".
 
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nice deal listed by mindless1. And i appreciate the banter of some legends <3

I have a 2TB rust that SMART is telling me it's slowly dying (24000 power-on hours over the last 6 years might do that). I think it's time to start offloading those backup files to some memory that I can stick in a box for long-term storage. Got the 64GB 3 pack. Thanks!
 

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nice deal listed by mindless1. And i appreciate the banter of some legends <3

I have a 2TB rust that SMART is telling me it's slowly dying (24000 power-on hours over the last 6 years might do that). I think it's time to start offloading those backup files to some memory that I can stick in a box for long-term storage. Got the 64GB 3 pack. Thanks!

Looks like you may need a 32-pack :D
 
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mikeford

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These flash drives are so cheap, somebody bite the bullet and test one til it fails. Do they fail on attempted write operations, or will repeated reads also eventually fail?

Plenty of applications for write once or rarely and read mostly.

BTW I did a quick google on flash failure rates, and didn't see anything recent. All of the flash failures I've personally experienced were DOA, nothing worked and then stopped.
 

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These flash drives are so cheap, somebody bite the bullet and test one til it fails. Do they fail on attempted write operations, or will repeated reads also eventually fail?

Plenty of applications for write once or rarely and read mostly.

BTW I did a quick google on flash failure rates, and didn't see anything recent. All of the flash failures I've personally experienced were DOA, nothing worked and then stopped.

I had 2 different PNY 128GB USB drives a while back (thinking 3-4 years ago), when they were still pretty expensive. Both failed JUST SITTING THERE (could not be recognized in Windows any more), I probably wrote once to each (around 50GB), and read back immediately just to confirm they worked. PNY had crappy warranty on them, so I could not RMA either, and swore off PNY altogether (after another similar fiasco with a PNY graphics card about 10 years ago). Hopefully the newer USB sticks work better, PNY is the only one to fail completely on me, and twice. But I have smaller drives that are like 12-15 years old (think 1-4GB) that are still working, albeit slow as heck - I use them for ubuntu/memtest/gparted, that sort of stuff.
 

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The little reading I did an hour ago suggests mechanical failure of the solder joints could be an issue, some report success touching them up.

Generally I only buy MIcroCenters house brand, lifetime warranty.
 

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The little reading I did an hour ago suggests mechanical failure of the solder joints could be an issue, some report success touching them up.

Generally I only buy MIcroCenters house brand, lifetime warranty.

Yeah, MicroCenter drives are horrendously slow, but lifetime warranty is nice. They just sent me a "gift" of a 128GB USB or microSD card, got the USB drive (they are priced at around $9 in store though, LOL). Benchmarked it, sequential reads/writes are OK, random reads are decent, but random writes are a total disaster.
 
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