Acura TL or Audi A4?

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: newParadigm
Subura Wrx

Another possibility!!

What about a slightly used CPO C32 AMG?

Why? You got one?

I wish, but Id take it over an A4, TL or a STI. You should be able to get a <20k miles CPO C32 AMG in the low 30s or even the high 20s.

 

[Vitamblu]

Go TL for the sound system...

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: FlashG

Originally posted by: Greyd
some TLs prior and including the year 2004 had some issues with transmissions. Buy a TL 2005 (late build the better)

My understanding is that Acura will cover most late model trans problems unless it was abused. Even if it is officially out of warranty.

yeah the 2nd gen/5 speed auto TLs had weak trannies. H/A gives a freebie 100K warranty on the trannies, supposedly even people substantially outside the window, H/A will split the cost if you contact them. Supposedly 03, the last year of the 2G TL was partially fixed. 04+ is not considered affected. For 2007 the TL got another substantial tranny upgrade.

The previous designs (pre 07) were 3 shaft designs, honda auto trannies are sort of like DSG/manual construction in terms of the gears being on parallel axis instead of traditional autos which use planetary gearsets. Of course honda autos still retain the torque converter.

My theory on why the honda autos were failing is because they tried to cram too many gears/clutchpacks into too small a package/setup and then tied it to a fairly high power V6. But I think you even see this situation affecting even the new camry/avalon auto trannies now, which some are also having problems.

The 07+ TL is a 4 shaft design now, which lets honda spread out the gears/clutchpacks, so there is less packaging constraints. They also probably did the redesign so they can later add more gears easily.

 

[Pakman]

I own a 2004 TL. It's a nice car. If I had to choose right now between the A4 and TL, I would still go with the TL. I've heard horror stories with their 1.8T engine and I also heard the timing belt on those engines need to be replaced every 60K miles. I'm just going by what I've heard from people. If it was between an S4 or TL, I would have to say S4. I'm waiting for the day when I finish paying off my car so I can get a BMW 335i. So far, my car has been very reliable with 50K miles on it. If you want a reliable car, get the TL. If you want a "drivers" car, get the A4.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Vitamblu
Go TL for the sound system...

stupidest suggestion evar!

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Vitamblu
Go TL for the sound system...

stupidest suggestion evar!

Actually its quite a good suggestion. This system makes my commute much more enjoyable especially with XM