Actual sniper letter in PDF

[Rob9874]

This was on the washingtonpost.com, but they have since removed it from their main page.

Sniper Letter

 

[Utterman]

Very interesting,


Thanks

 

[T2T III]

Yesterday, there were a couple of stories floating around regarding the demand for money. One story was related to having the money sent to an account in Jamaica. The other story centered around placing the money into an account where they could access it with a card. From what I've read in the letters, apparently, they wanted to have the money sent to an account where they could access the money using the card.

Given that scenario, did these guys realize that there is a daily limit to the amount of money that they could withdraw? Clearly, if they were to take a few hundred dollars out each day - the police would be following quite an easy trail and could pretty much pin-point the direction that they would be heading in. In a previous thread, someone called these people "idiots" - and then another individual cautioned the poster that the term "iodiots" didn't apply. However, after reading the note, clearly these guys were "idiots."

 

[DanFungus]

creepy

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

My understanding is that they asked that the money be deposited into the account of a stolen credit card, which seems laughably stupid.

 

[ChefJoe]

what crazy, crazy sh!t

 

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
My understanding is that they asked that the money be deposited into the account of a stolen credit card, which seems laughably stupid.

yeah, these guys obviously weren't very smart.

 

[BD231]

From the talk I heard on abc, they were not even out for money in the first place, they just thought of it somewhere along the line and decided to give it a shot. Any truth to that?

 

[Squisher]

Another question they might have asked themselves is how do we get the card in our possesion?

I can't think of anyway for a cop to give you something without putting yourself in the position to be arrested without some kind of hostage situation going on.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: bizmark

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
My understanding is that they asked that the money be deposited into the account of a stolen credit card, which seems laughably stupid.

yeah, these guys obviously weren't very smart.

That's what appears to be shown in the document, they give what is very obviously credit card info.

Not the brightest folks on the planet.

Viper GTS

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

wow these guys are focking dumbasses.
first the tip off with montgomery,
then the demand to put money into a visa card LOL,
then the demand to put money into a BANK OF AMERICA account LOL.
i guess they never saw any crime movies. you put your $h!t into offshore accounts without tracing you idiots, not into a bank of america account! LOL

WORD IS BOND. YOU ARE STUPID. WHO IS GOD NOW MUTHAFUKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?????

 

[kherman]

In rsponse to:

Originally posted by: bizmark

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
My understanding is that they asked that the money be deposited into the account of a stolen credit card, which seems laughably stupid.

yeah, these guys obviously weren't very smart.

and

Another question they might have asked themselves is how do we get the card in our possesion?

I can't think of anyway for a cop to give you something without putting yourself in the position to be arrested without some kind of hostage situation going on.

I would have to say these two a$$ holes are very smart:

The magnetic stripe on a CC really isn't that confusing. It's not even encypted. I want to say it's just the 16 digit number representing the CC number and it also has the experation date. Not sure on this 100% though. That's all that stripe has. Since it's a bank card, they can access all of that $10 million. With some knowledge of how that stripe works, they could easily encode data onto the stripe of a hotel's card (the ones with the magnetic stripe). They just have to match it to the demand letters data.

Upon doing so, they have an untracable card. No bank or CC application to track the perpetrators with (thus no fingerprints, security camera pictures, etc). All they have to do is wear masks when withdrawing money and it's an "easy" $10 million. Police would have a hard time finding them.

While it sounds stupid at first, it is a well thought out plan and people arn't giving them credit for it. insane, but well thought out.

// OFF TOPIC
Ignoring the quality of the snipers plot is like calling the 9-11 terrorists cowards. By definition, they are not cowards. Wouyld you kill yourself for something you believe in?
// END OFF TOPIC

The sniper(s) and terrorists can be referred to as Fvcks though :|

 

[hx009]

The magnetic stripe on a CC really isn't that confusing. It's not even encypted. I want to say it's just the 16 digit number representing the CC number and it also has the experation date. Not sure on this 100% though. That's all that stripe has. Since it's a bank card, they can access all of that $10 million. With some knowledge of how that stripe works, they could easily encode data onto the stripe of a hotel's card (the ones with the magnetic stripe). They just have to match it to the demand letters data.

Huh? The stripes on those cards oftentimes are not the same size or even on the same position as a typical credit card.

Upon doing so, they have an untracable card. No bank or CC application to track the perpetrators with (thus no fingerprints, security camera pictures, etc). All they have to do is wear masks when withdrawing money and it's an "easy" $10 million. Police would have a hard time finding them.

Yes, because as we all know, ATMs typically carry $10,000,000 balances of cash

A typical ATM around here (at least a few years ago) stocked around $30,000 cash when refilled. They'd have to visit ~333 ATMs to get the money. Something tells me the police could pickup a pattern. Oh, except for the fact that most ATM cards have a withdrawl limit of like $400/day.

While it sounds stupid at first, it is a well thought out plan and people arn't giving them credit for it. insane, but well thought out.

It sounds stupid alright... but not just at first.

 

[ndee]

from the letter: "We will have unlimited withdrawl at any atm worldwide."



lol, fvcktards.

 

[MrPhelps]

Very creapy

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Squisher
Another question they might have asked themselves is how do we get the card in our possesion?

I can't think of anyway for a cop to give you something without putting yourself in the position to be arrested without some kind of hostage situation going on.

There are many ways, like a third party in a poor command and control for the US or interpol country, like warlord controlled areas of africa or asia. No currency, tell them gold, and the exchange be given in a densly populated area.

 

I can't believe I thought these guys were smart and the money demands were a rouse.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Notwithstanding any of the speculation elsewhere, my read on this is that the entire plot was essentially about money. I understand that Muhammed had expressed some anti-American sentiments, but IMO the entire string of shootings were nothing more than a grotesque get-rich-quick scheme.

Even if a person hated the American government, I have a tough time seeing how the chosen victims, which included a child and a whole lot of various innocent bystanders, could be tied to government activities in any meaningful way. I understand that terrorists often deliberately target civilians, but even most terrorist acts (domestically, think 9/11 or Oklahoma City) strike a target that is symbolically or directly related to the government or economy they oppose, even if the target will create massive collateral damage (as those did).

Killing for financial gain is an aggravating circumstance in every American jurisdiction that has the death penalty, as is multiple murder. I am not generally a death-penalty advocate, but it seems to me that this case is tailor-made for the death penalty, particularly for the older Muhammed.

I find this case fascinating on many levels, and it seems we will have to rewrite the books on criminology, because there has really never been a crime quite like this one. In any event, regardless of their motivations, it seems to me that these two are total sociopaths, and incredibly dangerous.

 

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
but IMO the entire string of shootings were nothing more than a grotesque get-rich-quick scheme.

Word is bond.

 

[snooker]

I have the entire pdf file you guys are talking about.

One note I found out is, the Washington post blacked out some things in the letter (Like phone numbers, account numbers etc....... but with the Full version of Acrobat you can remove the blackout areas and see the wording. I have the account number, pin number, everything needed to go along with that stolen CC and bank account, as well as a couple phone numbers and a name of an officer they talked to when they called a hotline and was perceived as a hoax).

(Guess the person at the Post who is responsible for this sort of this is not fluent with PDF or Acrobat and it's capabilities)

The Washington Post took the pdf down (Or at least the link to it) when they was made aware of this.


Here is the pdf file, which is still on their server, just not linked from their site no more


EDIT: Just noticed the link is above also, soooo here is another link to the same place

 

[Magius363]

Greed seems to have been the downfall of these 2 idiots. If they hadn't asked for money they would probably still be shooting people. Most likely in another state by now.
Thank God its over and no more kids got hurt.

Magius

 

[John]

Yet another sad chain of events in our history.