I doubt Joe would mind a bit. He'd want the FBI to protect his campaign from hostile foreign influence. What a concept.Let the domestic spying on the Biden campaign begin. I'm sure the FISA court will happily authorize it just like they did Crossfire Hurricane. After all we can't do without spying on citizens so we might as well make it count.
Absolutely, if our intelligence services obtain similar information about the Biden campaign as they did about the Trump campaign which led to the opening of Crossfire Hurricane then they should absolutely start monitoring them.Let the domestic spying on the Biden campaign begin. I'm sure the FISA court will happily authorize it just like they did Crossfire Hurricane. After all we can't do without spying on citizens so we might as well make it count.
I think you are doing a fine job arguing logically with someone who is in the grips of an ideological belief to which he reacts emotionally.It’s activities are monitored by congress and such. Same as any other classified entity.
Again though, if your argument is that there aren’t enough checks on intelligence monitoring I agree with you! I’m trying to figure out how removing the FISA court makes this better.
Your position and arguments were rational and well-stated right up to this post. Oh well...Let the domestic spying on the Biden campaign begin. I'm sure the FISA court will happily authorize it just like they did Crossfire Hurricane. After all we can't do without spying on citizens so we might as well make it count.
I think this is a bit more complicated, but my understanding broadly jives with @fskimospy where warrantless wiretapping upheld as constitutional in the past pre-FISA and more specific authorizations e.g. through the Patriot Act would if anything become easier should FISA go away. No good. I'm with you on greater protections and oversight, but that isn't the way even if it sounds good hearing it. Congress can modify existing laws and pass new ones providing greater protection if they choose.I'd fully support that but will settle for returning to pre-1978 precedent where spying on citizens was presumptively unconstitutional. IMHO every single post 9/11 law authorizing domestic spying should be repealed by Congress. In the meantime I'll make due with the statute authorizing FISA being allowed to lapse and allowing any NSA employee who continues to spy on citizens to be fired and then prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for 4th Amendment violations.
You must have us confused with conservatives that for some reason want their leaders to be able to get away with shady shit. You got a wrong number, hoss.
No problem, just privatize the mass surveillance and data mining, this way the government can wash its hands of it when it goes wrong.Reauthorize the court but specifically forbid any kind of mass surveillance or data mining of information without specific congressional authorization. Take those programs out of the black and force them to be discussed publicly.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocation, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet in holding scientific discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite
So what should we do about it?No problem, just privatize the mass surveillance and data mining, this way the government can wash its hands of it when it goes wrong.
Those concerns about police indiscriminately collecting Google location data have some grounding in the real world. NBC News has revealed that police inadvertently made a suspect of an innocent cyclist, Gainesville, Florida resident Zachary McCoy, after using a geofence warrant (collecting all...www.engadget.com
and of course if you are looking to make an omelette a few eggs have to be cracked along the way
Based on faulty location data from Google, Avondale police arrested an innocent 23-year-old man and accused him of a crime punishable by death.www.phoenixnewtimes.com
but what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander apparently
Police across the country are expressing concern about a new feature coming to Google Maps that allows users around the world to track the real-time location of officers.gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com
and thanks to the fact that the democrat party has been corporatized while hiding under a social justice warrior facade and google leans left don't expect too much to happen even though we were warned many years ago about letting the technological elite hold us captive.
Eisenhower's farewell address
January 17, 1961.
Current lawmakers have learned the value of data mining and exploit it to the fullest allowed by the laws they wrote.We need a Bill of Electronic Rights. Something that defines ownership and access to and penalties for misuse of personal data and communications. I’m pretty sure the EFF has proposals or frameworks ready if we can ever get beyond this current generation of lawmakers that still don’t know how to use e-mail.
Honestly, that's a very useless statistic. What's the rejection rate for regular warrants and how do we know that they're just not submitting warrants that don't have any merit?Over the entire history of the FISA court a grand total of 12 warrants out of roughly 34,000 warrants were ever rejected.
- Fuck.Honestly, that's a very useless statistic. What's the rejection rate for regular warrants and how do we know that they're just not submitting warrants that don't have any merit?