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PJABBER

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damn giles is freakin hot

Her dad is Doug Giles. Can you deal with that? :D

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Bio.

Doug Giles is the creator and host of ClashRadio.com (IRN/USA Radio Network), a winner of seven Silver Microphone Awards and two Communicator Awards.


In addition, Doug is a popular columnist, minister, artist, campus lecturer and author. His column is read worldwide each week on the nation’s largest conservative news portal, TownHall.com.

His articles have also appeared on several other print and online news sources, including The Washington Times, New York Times, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Examiner, NRA News and ABC News, and he has been a guest on both major television news programs and nationally syndicated radio shows across the nation.

Doug earned his Bachelor of Fine Arts degree from Texas Tech University and studied for his Master of Arts in Christianity and Culture from Knox Theological Seminary.
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He’s the author of ten books on Christianity, masculinity and cultural insanity. His latest book, If You’re Going Through Hell, Keep Going is published by Bridge-Logos (Oct. 2009) and yet the little voices inside his head still will not go away.

Doug and his wife of 20 plus years have two daughters. Giles’ interests include guns, big game hunting, big game fishing, fine art, cigars and being a big pain in the butt to people who dislike God and the USA.
If I lived in Florida I would definitely sit in on some of his sermons. ():)

Tune in for some entertainment and a wonderful spin on Christianity.

http://www.clashradio.com/
 
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Robor

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Her dad is Doug Giles. :D

If I lived in Florida I would definitely sit in on some of his sermons. ():)

Tune in for some entertainment and a wonderful spin on Christianity.

http://www.clashradio.com/

From his bio:

Giles’ interests include guns, big game hunting, big game fishing, fine art, cigars and being a big pain in the butt to people who dislike God and the USA.

LOL... People don't 'dislike' god. They just don't believe in a god or maybe more specifically his god. Also, way to fight the 'people who dislike the USA' straw men. What a douche. :rolleyes:
 

PJABBER

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From his bio:
LOL... People don't 'dislike' god. They just don't believe in a god or maybe more specifically his god. Also, way to fight the 'people who dislike the USA' straw men. What a douche. :rolleyes:

I love reading his opinion pieces and I was grinning the whole time I clicked through the various links on his web site.

Modern life is tough and even tougher when you want to live a righteous life. I found his head on approach to life refreshing and lacking any of the typical preachy BS.

Of course, he does advocate manning up in a big way. Do what is responsible and not be a self-indulgent momma's boy - if this is not your style, then he is sure going to grate on you.

And you are likely not going to impress his daughter much either.

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If Acorn was engaged in a campaign to affect the outcome of a U.S. Presidential Election through the submission of invalid registration applications; and if Acorn was engaged in a wholesale effort to advise clients on how to evade income taxes, fraudulently acquire home loans, and conceal their income and true identities from the government; and if Acorn knew on several occasions that its management was condoning and encouraging these actions, embezzling government funding, and concealing these actions from law enforcement investigations...

Wouldn't you say that the organization "besmirched" itself?

Don't bother arguing with them. They are obviously upset that a source of child pornography and child sexual exploitation has been uncovered and their sources of such material and vacations is drying up.
 

marincounty

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So I guess it's OK to break the law if you are trying to expose someone else who might be breaking the law? And why are righties trying to promote child prostituition?
Righties have lost their minds over Acorn.
 

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Doug Giles is the creator and host of ClashRadio.com (IRN/USA Radio Network), a winner of seven Silver Microphone Awards and two Communicator Awards.

In addition, Doug is a popular columnist, minister, artist, campus lecturer and author. His column is read worldwide each week on the nation’s largest conservative news portal, TownHall.com.
so he's the guy behind the crap that passses for news when the local sports radio station can't stream their on-air content (NFL and NBA games). douchenozzle. his daughter's still hot.
 

Patranus

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So I guess it's OK to break the law if you are trying to expose someone else who might be breaking the law? And why are righties trying to promote child prostituition?
Righties have lost their minds over Acorn.

So you think that it is ok for a person working at a giant oil company to break the law by disclosing trade secrets if it shows that the giant oil company is breaking the law by dumping industrial byproducts in the ocean?

What about all of those people that leak those classified documents to the media over the years that exposed government corruption. Should they also be prosecuted for breaking the law to expose someone else who might be breaking the law?
 

marincounty

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So you think that it is ok for a person working at a giant oil company to break the law by disclosing trade secrets if it shows that the giant oil company is breaking the law by dumping industrial byproducts in the ocean?

What about all of those people that leak those classified documents to the media over the years that exposed government corruption. Should they also be prosecuted for breaking the law to expose someone else who might be breaking the law?

Bad analogy. I don't think there is any history of Acorn promoting child prostitution.
The operatives were trying to induce Acorn into promoting crime. Sorry if you can't see the difference.
 

PJABBER

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Bad analogy. I don't think there is any history of Acorn promoting child prostitution.
The operatives were trying to induce Acorn into promoting crime. Sorry if you can't see the difference.

You still have your head buried in partisan sands. Watch the tapes yourself and see all but one of the dozens of ACORN staffers eagerly encourage, support and aim to abet child prostitution, illegal immigration, tax evasion and financial fraud. See them do so in Baltimore, Washington D.C., Brooklyn, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Philadelphia.
 
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marincounty

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You still have your head buried in partisan sands. Watch the tapes yourself and see all but one of the dozens of ACORN staffers eagerly encourage, support and aim to abet child prostitution, illegal immigration, tax evasion and financial fraud. See them do so in Baltimore, Washington D.C., Brooklyn, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Philadelphia.

Wrong. I'd never even heard of Acorn until righties with a hardon for them started this gotcha sting. As someone pointed out, Blackwater (which is shooting people) gets more in one month than Acorn has gotten in its entire history.
This is a another right wing smear attempt, throw everything in the kitchen sink at the wall, and see what sticks.
The Birther movement, he's a Socialist, he's apologizing, he's bowing too much, etc....
Righties need to drop the attack politics, I think the country is hungry for what you actually want to do to move the country forward, not how bad those other guys are. That is, unless you enjoy being the minority party.
 

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From his bio:
LOL... People don't 'dislike' god. They just don't believe in a god or maybe more specifically his god.

Speak for yourself. I hate god. Have you ever read the Old Testament? God is a messed up SOB. Also, since people do tons of messed up stuff in god's name, and he doesn't punish them, that implicit approval. God's a douche.
 

PJABBER

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Wrong. I'd never even heard of Acorn until righties with a hardon for them started this gotcha sting. As someone pointed out, Blackwater (which is shooting people) gets more in one month than Acorn has gotten in its entire history.
This is a another right wing smear attempt, throw everything in the kitchen sink at the wall, and see what sticks.
The Birther movement, he's a Socialist, he's apologizing, he's bowing too much, etc....
Righties need to drop the attack politics, I think the country is hungry for what you actually want to do to move the country forward, not how bad those other guys are. That is, unless you enjoy being the minority party.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself had not heard of ACORN except in the context of being another activist organization with extortionist aims related to CRA.

Heard a little about them during the election cycle as Obama was very involved with them. Then all of the articles, press references, etc. started disappearing as blowback started up. That is a fascinating story covered elsewhere.

ACORN is an organization founded specifically as an implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967) which advocates the overloading of governmental and social welfare systems as the best means toward crisis and overthrow of government. I accept this as it is what the founders, Wade Rathke, George Wiley and Gary Delgado freely admit and brag about.

The ACORN organization grew rich on the backs of the poor and the unfortunate. They are leeches.
Obama had an extensive working relationship with ACORN. Though he no longer brags of it in public, those ties still bind.

If you took the time to actually read this thread in the entirety you would have a better understanding of whom you defend. Why you do so is your own affair.

As to the politics of it, I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, so I could care less which party is in the majority or the minority so long as we have good governance.

You on the other hand seem extremely partisan, picking your enemies most selectively and remaining blind to the crimes of your fellow travelers.
 
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PJABBER

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so he's the guy behind the crap that passses for news when the local sports radio station can't stream their on-air content (NFL and NBA games).

Does he do news? I thought it was just political opinion and religion.
 

marincounty

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Like I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself had not heard of ACORN except in the context of being another activist organization with extortionist aims related to CRA.

Heard a little about them during the election cycle as Obama was very involved with them. Then all of the articles, press references, etc. started disappearing as blowback started up. That is a fascinating story covered elsewhere.

ACORN is an organization founded specifically as an implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967) which advocates the overloading of governmental and social welfare systems as the best means toward crisis and overthrow of government. I accept this as it is what the founders, Wade Rathke, George Wiley and Gary Delgado freely admit and brag about.

The ACORN organization grew rich on the backs of the poor and the unfortunate. They are leeches.
Obama had an extensive working relationship with ACORN. Though he no longer brags of it in public, those ties still bind.

If you took the time to actually read this thread in the entirety you would have a better understanding of whom you defend. Why you do so is your own affair.

As to the politics of it, I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, so I could care less which party is in the majority or the minority so long as we have good governance.

You on the other hand seem extremely partisan, picking your enemies most selectively and remaining blind to the crimes of your fellow travelers.

No you're not getting it. I don't give a crap about Acorn. And we are spending over $2 billion PER DAY on the military. This is small potatoes. Have you ever heard the saying "don't sweat the small stuff". With the amount of money our govts are wasting on useless stuff, this is a non-issue.
Your link was to a far-right wacko web site, with a link to a Glen Beck video. You are a non-partisan my ass. This is another attempt by right wingers to try and bring down Obama with guilt by association.
Again, why are right wing activists trying to promote child prostitution ?
 

PJABBER

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No you're not getting it. I don't give a crap about Acorn. And we are spending over $2 billion PER DAY on the military. This is small potatoes. Have you ever heard the saying "don't sweat the small stuff". With the amount of money our govts are wasting on useless stuff, this is a non-issue.
Your link was to a far-right wacko web site, with a link to a Glen Beck video. You are a non-partisan my ass. This is another attempt by right wingers to try and bring down Obama with guilt by association.

Gee, I see tons of Glen Beck videos on far left WWW sites all the time. Whoda guessed he was popular with so many diverse opinion holders?

So, your argument is that we should only be concerned with the BIG stuff.

Like, don't sweat it if your home gets robbed, there was a bank robbery down the street that netted more than your beanie baby collection so chuck you farley.

Or, someone makes off with your 401K money but it wasn't as big a deal as Bernie Madoff raking off billions, so you shouldn't sweat that either.

Hey, big boy, how about this? You have a close local election that fraudulent ACORN voters move into a win for a corrupt Democrat politician that then proceeds to embezzle all of the town's funds for his place in Aruba.

Not as big a deal as those on this list -

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/

So, no big deal.

ACORN disenfranchises legitimate voters. ACORN steals money that is meant to help poor people. ACORN systemically encourages and supports heinous crime.

But Wade Rathke is not Saddam Hussein, and Bertha Lewis is not Pol Pot, so no big deal.

Is Obama guilty by association? I don't know, are you really so sure he isn't? If you have so much confidence in him why are you getting all frantic?
 
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marincounty

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No, Acorn works to register people to vote. Republicans have always opposed this.
They don't want poor people voting and prove it by intimidating voters, trying to create tests before voting, etc..
You are completely dishonest. Nice strawmen.
 

PJABBER

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No, Acorn works to register people to vote. Republicans have always opposed this.
They don't want poor people voting and prove it by intimidating voters, trying to create tests before voting, etc..
You are completely dishonest. Nice strawmen.

Please refer to the extraordinary detail in Posts #19 and #20 in this thread for a reality check.

I have continually provided references to specific incidents of ACORN malfeasance, while you are saying that anything criminal they do is OK because you claim Republicans are somehow worse.

Of course, you provide absolutely nothing in the way of fact to support your own claims, and instead indulge in childish name calling.

I guess I'll end here with acknowledging your right to have an unrelentingly partisan opinion, even if it is one based completely on fantasy and lies.

Good luck with that. I mean it. :hmm:

Now it is time for me to head out with the kiddies! I really need more mature conversation than I am finding here. :awe:
 

ebaycj

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Wait... Philadelphia?

That looks a whole lot like "Pedophilia". ACORN is obviously heavily involved in Pedophilia.
 

Craig234

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No, Acorn works to register people to vote. Republicans have always opposed this.
They don't want poor people voting and prove it by intimidating voters, trying to create tests before voting, etc..
You are completely dishonest. Nice strawmen.

Sorry, Marincounty, but Pjabber disagreed with your post and has clearly proven it wrong.

Acorn never worked to register people, the Republicans have never opposed registering the poor, the Republicans do want the poor voting and never intimidated voters, they never created tests before voting.

THey say sometimes the worst liars are embarrassed by children and realize their error.

Hopefully PJabber has this in his conversations with children. But I suspect the character flaws are much too strong for him to be able to feel shame or conscience.
 

PJABBER

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Sorry, Marincounty, but Pjabber disagreed with your post and has clearly proven it wrong.

Acorn never worked to register people, the Republicans have never opposed registering the poor, the Republicans do want the poor voting and never intimidated voters, they never created tests before voting.

See, marincounty, even Craig234 agrees with me.

You really need to get a realistic perspective of what all the various players actually do and to what extent they do it.

If you support a group like ACORN, that was founded specifically to foment revolutionary upheaval, do you really think they are going to act in good faith and within the boundaries of legal systems and governance that they do not recognize as legitimate?

They want to use social order against itself and you are one of their cheerleaders. Are you a true revolutionary yourself? Or just a patsy?

The issue for me is not the idiocy of the individual actors - they are simply criminal abettors that have no idea of why they are being encouraged to put it to the Man - it is this constant desire some have for the end of American exceptionalism.

When you and Dave and Craig and a few others engage in these tear it all down fantasies you should let us in on what you want to come next. Because for all of the diatribes I have yet to see even the semblance of a viable alternative being proposed.

What's it gonna be? A classic state of anarchy followed by magical spontaneous enlightenment? Class struggle, but with a reversal of who's on top? Collectivism?

I got it!

Enlightened authoritarianism!
 
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EagleKeeper

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The only original problem I had with ACORN is that they have taken the public funding to be used for the poor and heavily mishandled by using shell companies/organizations to siphon off a lot for their directorship personal gain.

The registration issues are typical of any political motivated organization - they may have walked quite a bit in the grey area and a little into the enthusiastically illegal area; but as their supporters state, it was for the good "intentions".

However, as an organization to encourage people to break the laws is not acceptable..
One or two incidents may be excusable. Rotten apples in the barrel. However it has been documented that this is not isolated (as the defenders were initially proclaiming). So many offices across the country generated a similar response indicates that this is part of the overall corporate culture. Rather than it be isolated to a few bad apples; the converse seems to be true. There were only a few good apples in the barrel.
 

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Actually, the most disturbing part of those videos is completely underreported. Bringing people in from another country, holding them against their will and forcing them to do labor (sex), that is plain and simply slavery. Won't folks learn?

Not sure how they are going to use a wiretapping law. They did not intercept anything as they were the party involved.