ACORN CEO: 'I'm young, I'm Democratic, and I'm a socialist,' is all right with me.

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PJABBER

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It doesn't take much to look up who and what a political organization is and what it links to. As the OP says, ACORN does not hide behind much of a facade except when it begs for more taxpayer money...

What You Need To Know About The Recent Bertha Lewis ACORN Rant

by Andrew Marcus

There is something very important to consider about the recent Bertha Lewis rant posted earlier on Big Government, in which she referred to the Tea Party movement as a “bowel movement”. Something that has thus far been largely overlooked.

While it is important to consider the implications of Bertha using this kind of language to describe average Americans, the actual story is not just what she said, it’s who she said it to.

Bertha was addressing the Young Democratic Socialists. This is not just some fringe, esoteric, Socialist youth group.

The Young Democratic Socialists is the on-campus section of the Democratic Socialists of America.

The Democratic Socialists of America founded the incredibly powerful Congressional Progressive Caucus with self described Socialist-Democrat, Bernie Sanders.

The Democratic Socialists of America, along with ACORN/SEIU and Citizen Action (now USAction) co-founded the New Party, and the Working Families Party, both of which Barack Obama pledged his loyalty to.

Citizen Action was the organization Bob Creamer (Jan Schakowsky’s husband) was found guilty of embezzling from. Together, they all launched HCAN, the movement that spearheaded Obamacare.

The Democratic Socialists of America and Citizen Action were both founded by former members of the SDS (Students For A Democratic Society)/Weather Underground.

The Young Democratic Socialists represents the modern youth arm of America’s Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Frantic and breathless about a non-existent ‘neo-McCarthism era,’ Bertha was warning them specifically because they are the next generation of the current Socialist-Progressive government.

Educate yourselves regarding the Democratic Socialists of America, and Citizen Action (USAction), and the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and their respective youth sections.

These are the people who launched Barack Obama. These are the people who have changed America.

Understanding them and their published missions will help you understand the Socialist vision they have for charted for America.

Barack Obama is not who the Conservative movement needs to defeat in an ideological battle for hearts and minds. These people are.
 
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rudder

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Sure, just as soon you can prove you were born full grown in the wilderness and acquired all your pie by pounding two rocks together.

Nope can't do that. But I will say my dad worked hard, paid property and state income tax which funded the school I went to. I went to college, earned a degree, and have been working and paying taxes ever since. I paid for my own house, my car, my food, my healthcare, fund my own retirement, I buy gas which is taxed so the roads can be built and maintained, I pay property and sales tax which allows the state to run the schools...... etc.

My pie, like most middle class Americans came honestly and through working.
 

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What is the defining point when someone becomes a socialist? Because from my perspective, the US government has been socialist since it began trust-busting over 100 years ago.
 

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This whole thread is a massive misnomer, it should say ex ceo of acorn because Acorn is dead dead dead.

Nor can I paraphrase shakespear and say alas poor Yorick, I knew acorn well, because I can honestly tell you, that a democrat, that I never heard of acorn until Fox News and the radical right character assassinated and totally distorted their overall actions. But radical right point granted, they were running a slack ship and did not deserve public funding, but radical right point not granted, acorn was never anything but a totally tiny insignificant force in national politics.
 

Sinsear

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We should definitely funnel more federal funds to this woman and ACORN. Like yesterday.
 

Blackjack200

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What is the defining point when someone becomes a socialist? Because from my perspective, the US government has been socialist since it began trust-busting over 100 years ago.

Protecting free markets is now socialism? LOL!
 

Fox5

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Protecting free markets is now socialism? LOL!

How far do you take it? A lot of the actions taken by the EU against businesses are in the name of "protecting free markets", but how much control can the government take over business and commerce before it becomes socialist?
 

Blackjack200

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How far do you take it? A lot of the actions taken by the EU against businesses are in the name of "protecting free markets", but how much control can the government take over business and commerce before it becomes socialist?

My undergraduate economics professor was about as hard-core capitalist as you can get. While he argued that recent regulations and actions were too restrictive, he was absolutely unequivocal about the trust busting of the early 20th century and the critical role it played in restoring a competitive market.
 

sandorski

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Fail OP. It's like you actually found something to go with your usual Strawman arguments and are astounded by it.

Protip: Yes, Socialists do actually exist, but what you and your ilk like to label "Socialism" is 99 44/100% not Socialism.
 

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Fail OP. It's like you actually found something to go with your usual Strawman arguments and are astounded by it.

Protip: Yes, Socialists do actually exist, but what you and your ilk like to label "Socialism" is 99 44/100% not Socialism.

Deny deny deny.

That's all you got.
 

Modelworks

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This whole thread is a massive misnomer, it should say ex ceo of acorn because Acorn is dead dead dead.


If only that were true. Acorn didn't go away, they just changed the names over the doors and re-opened.

So far the re-branding is:
Affordable Housing Centers of America Inc.
American Institute for Social Justice
Arkansas Community Organizations
Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE)
New England United for Justice
LA: A Community Voice
Minnesota Neighborhoods Organizing for Change
Missourians Organizing for Reform & Empowerment (MORE)
Organization United for Reform (OUR) Washington
New York Communities for Change
Pennsylvania Neighbor-hoods for Social Justice; and Pennsylvania Communities Organizing for Change
Texas Organizing Project
 
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PJABBER

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ACORN is not averse to using the capitalist system against itself to further ACORN's own aims.

Remember, they are primarily an extortion organization and much of the other nefarious activity is mere fluff. Think of them as an organized crime "protection" racket and you have captured their essence.

Atlantic Yards and the Despicable Bertha Lewis
by Damon Root

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The New York Times reported today that long-suffering Brooklyn homeowner Daniel Goldstein has finally been forced out by the state’s eminent domain abuse in the Atlantic Yards case. And the paper turned to ACORN chief Bertha Lewis for some gloating commentary:
Bertha Lewis, a housing advocate who supported the project, bid Mr. Goldstein “good riddance.”
“Low- and moderate-income people had to wait years for housing while he obstructed the Atlantic Yards project,” she said.
Of course, Lewis is much more than just a “housing advocate who supported the project,” she was the CEO of ACORN, a group that signed a contract with Atlantic Yards developer Bruce Ratner “to publicly support the [Atlantic Yards] Project by, among other things, appearing with the Developer before the Public Parties, community organizations and the media as part of a coordinated effort to realize and advance the Project.” In return, Ratner pledged to include a certain amount of “affordable housing” in the project, units that ACORN stood to make a fortune from marketing and managing.

As the New York Post reported, “Anita MonCrief, a former ACORN official-turned-whistleblower, estimates the anticipated deal could bring the group $5 million to $10 million annually over multiple years.”

And the money didn’t stop there.

In 2008 Ratner bailed ACORN out to the tune of $1.5 million dollars after the news broke that Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke, had embezzled nearly $1 million from the group back in 2000 and the national leadership had covered the crime up for eight years. The financial fallout from that scandal threatened to ruin ACORN until Ratner stepped in with a $1 million load and a $500,000 grant. This desperately-needed cash kept ACORN alive and allowed it to keep providing cover for Ratner’s corporate welfare and eminent domain abuse.

So if it wasn’t for Bruce Ratner’s taxpayer-subsidized bribes and handouts, we would’ve bid good riddance to ACORN long ago. Apparently the New York Times didn’t think any of that context was important to the story.