Acne OR Refined Carbs

[borisvodofsky]

If you had to choose between eating Refined Carbs or Acne?


:\ The reason I started was because I was trying to get huge like the people at the gym.

I did 3 rounds of identical "refined carbs" experiments on myself.

w/ refined carbs, I had acne breakouts within 1 week of eating them.


w/ fruits, substituted to the EXACT proportion in Calories of the refined carbs that I ate prior, I became completely acne free within the same 1 week period.

I am on my 3rd month with 0 breakouts, even with little to NO extra facial care.

The Problem is,, Bread is delicious, french fries are delicious, AND they make you grow more muscles "so I've heard."

What to do...:hmm:

 

[TheVrolok]

Eat moar, lift moar, get big. No more of this refined carbs non-sense.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Wtf? Refined carbs = muscle? No wrong. How about eating NON refined carbs and more whole wheat and grain to be healthier in general. You should be seeking ways to completely eliminate refined carbs from your diet. Protein/Meat and working out more will make you grow more muscles.

If fries and bread makes you buff all the people eating McDs and BK would be Arnold status.

 

[borisvodofsky]

Wtf? Refined carbs = muscle? No wrong. How about eating NON refined carbs and more whole wheat and grain to be healthier in general. You should be seeking ways to completely eliminate refined carbs from your diet. Protein/Meat and working out more will make you grow more muscles.

If fries and bread makes you buff all the people eating McDs and BK would be Arnold status.

The problem really hinges on TASTE more than being huge at this point..

Need I mention deep fried bacon wrapped in korean frying powders, then wrapped by more bacon?

I'm attractive enough by (cursory inspection) at 140lbs. 6pack and somewhat round shoulders.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

The problem really hinges on TASTE more than being huge at this point..

Need I mention deep fried bacon wrapped in korean frying powders, then wrapped by more bacon?

I'm attractive enough by (cursory inspection) at 140lbs. 6pack and somewhat round shoulders.

Well the question is what you are content with when it comes to your own body. For me, i mentally make myself never content so that when I work out I can push myself harder every time and allows me to say no to that deep fried bacon.

Taste is something that can completely be trained. I used to love soda as a kid. Then I gave it up and now when I take a sip, it burns my throat and tastes like shit. I used to hate brown rice, whole wheat bread. Give up that refined carbs and start eating brown rice and whole wheat for a month and try eating that white again, its gonna taste bland and gooey. Same goes for salty foods and fried foods. I gave up french fries and other deep fried foods for a while and now I can only eat it after padding it down with a napkin to soak up all that oil that it absorbs.

Its all up to you if you want to do it or not.

 

[mcveigh]

when I have more sugar in my diet my face breaks out as well.

moral of this... eat healthy, be healthy

 

[darkswordsman17]

The problem really hinges on TASTE more than being huge at this point..

Need I mention deep fried bacon wrapped in korean frying powders, then wrapped by more bacon?

I'm attractive enough by (cursory inspection) at 140lbs. 6pack and somewhat round shoulders.

I don't think eating like that is going to get you what you want, unless that's fat with clogged arteries and who knows what else. Yeah, eating french fries and bacon and crap can help you gain weight, but its not generally the type of weight people want to gain, and its definitely not going to make you a healthy person.

Six-pack abs aren't really anything special on someone your weight unless you're very short.

I really don't know what you are/were thinking, you talk about getting big like people at the gym, then scoff at some acne (I can almost bet that those big guys you're wanting to be like have had to deal with some acne issues), and now you're basically saying taste is the important thing.

Wtf? Refined carbs = muscle? No wrong. How about eating NON refined carbs and more whole wheat and grain to be healthier in general. You should be seeking ways to completely eliminate refined carbs from your diet. Protein/Meat and working out more will make you grow more muscles.

If fries and bread makes you buff all the people eating McDs and BK would be Arnold status.

This. I'm still baffled at the logic of the OP. I think he really needs to go and do some actual research instead of going with whatever he had in his mind.

OP, based on your eating habits and general tone, I would guess you're in high school? If so, I think you should drop the idea of bulking up majorly, and just work out a long term goal/plan and work toward it steadily.

 

[StageLeft]

I love carbs!!!!!!!!!

 

[Capt Caveman]

The Problem is,, Bread is delicious, french fries are delicious, AND they make you grow more muscles "so I've heard."

You heard wrong.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

You are confusing acne outbreaks with your change in diet. Outbreaks are NOT a result of the food you eat.

 

[schneiderguy]

 

[destrekor]

As others have said - drop the refined carbs.

Refined carbs are the worst kinds of carb for you. Sure, they offer generic energy, but that's all they use.

And besides - carbs are not what you need to be focusing on anyway if you are hitting the gym - protein should be at least 20-30% of your diet.
Good fats are also needed. Mono/polyunsaturated fats and a small amount of saturated fat is good for energy, as important fatty acids used for cellular construction are needed. Proteins for the amino acids that will help repair the muscles, and if the amino acids aren't used, protein is good energy as well. Same with fat - not used for building, it's an amazing source of energy.

 

[surfsatwerk]

The problem really hinges on TASTE more than being huge at this point..

Need I mention deep fried bacon wrapped in korean frying powders, then wrapped by more bacon?

I'm attractive enough by (cursory inspection) at 140lbs. 6pack and somewhat round shoulders.

I weighed 140lbs when I was 12. I'm sure your child like physique is stunning.

 

[nonameo]

I think you should try eating whole grain foods and gaining weight before you discount them. You'll probably gain just fine. The reason why people say refined is because whole grain foods fill you up better and keep you from getting as hungry, so you can eat more refined carbs than whole grain.

 

[Whisper]

As others have said - drop the refined carbs.

Refined carbs are the worst kinds of carb for you. Sure, they offer generic energy, but that's all they use.

And besides - carbs are not what you need to be focusing on anyway if you are hitting the gym - protein should be at least 20-30% of your diet.
Good fats are also needed. Mono/polyunsaturated fats and a small amount of saturated fat is good for energy, as important fatty acids used for cellular construction are needed. Proteins for the amino acids that will help repair the muscles, and if the amino acids aren't used, protein is good energy as well. Same with fat - not used for building, it's an amazing source of energy.

This. Refined carbs are in no way necessary, nor likely even conducive, to making gym-related gains. Complex carbs are generally a much better energy source, although ingesting some simple carbs immediately after a workout gain aid with recovery I believe.

And, as destrekor mentioned, you really want to also be focusing on protein and quality fats, both of which are necessary for muscle growth.

 

[Whisper]

The problem really hinges on TASTE more than being huge at this point..

Need I mention deep fried bacon wrapped in korean frying powders, then wrapped by more bacon?

I'm attractive enough by (cursory inspection) at 140lbs. 6pack and somewhat round shoulders.

Once your body becomes accustomed to complex rather than refined carbs, you'll likely end up enjoying them more. Refined carbs can become somewhat addictive because of the nice little insulin spikes they induce; once your body stops expecting (and having to adjust to) those, you'll be much better off.

 

[Itchrelief]

If you had to choose between eating Refined Carbs or Acne?

No matter how bad refined carbs are, I'd rather not eat zits or their exudate. D:

Yes I know what you mean, but my mind went there anyways.

 

[eldorado99]

Yes I'd much rather eat refined carbs than Acne.

 

[MJinZ]

i weighed 140lbs when i was 12. I'm sure your child like physique is stunning.

lol

 

[ShawnD1]

when I have more sugar in my diet my face breaks out as well.

moral of this... eat healthy, be healthy

Sorry bro, but you have type 2 diabetes. Most of the world lives on a steady supply of rice, which is basically pure carbs. Most of the world does not have acne.

So then what known blood sugar disease causes acne? You guessed it. Diabetus.

 

[destrekor]

Sorry bro, but you have type 2 diabetes. Most of the world lives on a steady supply of rice, which is basically pure carbs. Most of the world does not have acne.

So then what known blood sugar disease causes acne? You guessed it. Diabetus.

This is definitely not necessarily true.

He stated: sugar.

There is a large difference between eating a lot of processed food with raw sugar, versus eating carbohydrate-heavy food, both simple and complex, that have low raw-sugar levels.

Rice, both brown and white, has minimal pure sugar.

When you start forcing your body to eat a bunch of actual sugar, it can do a nasty number on your insulin use and blood-glucose levels and cause issues over time.

 

[MJinZ]

This is definitely not necessarily true.

He stated: sugar.

There is a large difference between eating a lot of processed food with raw sugar, versus eating carbohydrate-heavy food, both simple and complex, that have low raw-sugar levels.

Rice, both brown and white, has minimal pure sugar.

When you start forcing your body to eat a bunch of actual sugar, it can do a nasty number on your insulin use and blood-glucose levels and cause issues over time.

Yes, our primitive mammalian cells are not capable of long terms tolerance of advanced glyco-products such as high fructose corn syrup.

It's a pity.

 

[destrekor]

Yes, our primitive mammalian cells are not capable of long terms tolerance of advanced glyco-products such as high fructose corn syrup.

It's a pity.

Wait, are you agreeing with me... or? I'm sensing not.

 

[ShawnD1]

He stated: sugar.

There is a large difference between eating a lot of processed food with raw sugar, versus eating carbohydrate-heavy food, both simple and complex, that have low raw-sugar levels.

Actually no there isn't. Regular table sugar (sucrose) that we put on everything is a combination of glucose of fructose. Fructose has a low insulin and glycemic index, but glucose has an extremely high insulin index. Potatoes are actually far worse than table sugar because potatoes are starch which is glucose molecules strung together. The potato doesn't even contain fructose; it's all glucose.

Glycemic index for a few select foods; higher GI means it increases your blood sugar more and usually requires more insulin to deal with it:
http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/glycemicfoodchart.htm
Danish pastry - 59
White bread - 71
Baguette bread - 95
Taco Shell - 68
Ice-cream - 61
Watermelon - 72
Ravioli, meat filled - 39
Potato, baked - 85
Snickers bar - 40
Table sugar - 65
Corn chips - 74

So let's look at this a little closer and see what we find. What fucks with your blood sugar more: eating a danish pastry or eating a baked potato? Well according to the glycemic index, the potato fucks with you way more. That's because the potato is damn near 100% sugar. What has more sugar: ice cream or baguette bread? The bread has more. Again, bread is almost all sugar. What's worse, the sugar that goes in your coffee or corn chips? Corn chips are worse than pure table sugar (sucrose) because the corn chips have way more glucose in them.

If you're complaining that high blood sugar and high insulin are causing acne, then you need to stay away from foods that have starch in them. potatoes are worse than table sugar. Baguette bread is worse than corn chips (doritos). Watermelon is worse than ice cream.


I keep a close eye on things like glycemic index because I have chronic hypoglycemia. I eat foods that diabetic people can't eat then I take medication that counters the insulin response. This keeps my blood sugar high so I'm not tired all the time. I do not have acne
edit: I mean I eat high glycemic food when my blood sugar is terribly low. I didn't mean to give the impression that I only eat potatoes.

 

[borisvodofsky]

Sorry bro, but you have type 2 diabetes. Most of the world lives on a steady supply of rice, which is basically pure carbs. Most of the world does not have acne.

So then what known blood sugar disease causes acne? You guessed it. Diabetus.

I thought so too, so I went to 2 different doctor and even bought a glucose meter.

No diabetes in any of the tests.

I was actually a little disappointed that I didn't have diabetes because I spent 30 bux on that glucose meter, and pricked my fingers 24 times over 4 days.