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Riprorin

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ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

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Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.

 
TastesLikeChicken

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

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Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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In many ways I agree with the ACLU on this issue.

What I think is saddest though is that there are parents who would strike such fear into their children that their own children couldn't confide in them about this kind of situation.
 
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dgevert

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yes, how dare they stick by their principles and defend peoples' rights no matter what. You're a joke. And a liar.

You can dispute what he has to say but it isn't necessary to call him a lair. Please refrain from such personal attacks.
 
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Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

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Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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So, you hate the ACLU today, eh? I guess next week you'll be screaming to come to the aid of someone you support and cursing them because they didn't. /shrug
 
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gutharius

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

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Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yeah those Dads that are raping and abusing their daughters really need to know they got their kid pregnant. Thanks for the compassionate justification Rip, as usual. </sarcasm>
 
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Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

Link

Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yeah those Dads that are raping and abusing their daughters really need to know they got their kid pregnant. Thanks for the compassionate justification Rip, as usual. </sarcasm>
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what about the other 99% of cases?
 
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gutharius

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

Link

Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yeah those Dads that are raping and abusing their daughters really need to know they got their kid pregnant. Thanks for the compassionate justification Rip, as usual. </sarcasm>
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what about the other 99% of cases?
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Does it matter? When there is a child, affected by this law, that is being raped by their father and risks injury or worse if they have to tell their parent who is in fact the father of the unborn child carried by his daughter. There is something wrong with the law and it needs to be changed. My beef is not with the children who have a parent that knows the bounds of love do not go to molestation. My concern is with those who have predetory fathers, or other male family members, who would take advantage of them then use threats of physical harm to keep the secret quiet.

I find it disgraceful that rip is so easy to over look these cases of extreme heartlessness and living hell. Then turn around and demean those who would try to change the law so that those same children have a way to seek help in a safe and secure manner.
 
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Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Riprorin
ACLU and Planned Parenthood Contest Amendment

January 13, 2005 02:13 PM

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood want the courts to nullify the parental notification amendment passed by voters in November. The amendment requires females under the age of 18 to have parental approval before receiving an abortion. ACLU Legislative Councilman Larry Spalding says the amendment shouldn't have reached the ballots because its' wording was confusing. However, Spalding says the ACLU is currently working on a provisional law that will allow certain teens to by-pass notifying parents. The new law will allow teens to petition the courts to by-pass parental notification in any county. Spalding says he feels this is particularly important in North Florida, because there are many small towns.

Link

Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yeah those Dads that are raping and abusing their daughters really need to know they got their kid pregnant. Thanks for the compassionate justification Rip, as usual. </sarcasm>
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what about the other 99% of cases?
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Does it matter?
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yes
 
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LordMagnusKain

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Riprorin, do you think people should enjoy sex?
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do you know what a spoiled child is?

that's right, a liberal.

people who are married should enjoy sex, and would, if they didn't attempt to enjoy it outside of wedlock.
 
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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Riprorin, do you think people should enjoy sex?
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do you know what a spoiled child is?

that's right, a liberal.

people who are married should enjoy sex, and would, if they didn't attempt to enjoy it outside of wedlock.
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So if you aren't married you shouldn't enjoy sex?
 
3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Riprorin, do you think people should enjoy sex?
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do you know what a spoiled child is?

that's right, a liberal.

people who are married should enjoy sex, and would, if they didn't attempt to enjoy it outside of wedlock.
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What do you mean by 'attempt'?

Sex is fun!
 
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Infohawk

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Watch out its the way of the master! With Kirk Cameron as your guide to god! And Mr. Seaver is telling you sex is bad!
 
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dgevert

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Originally posted by: dgevert
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Leave it to the ACLU and PP to try to usurp the will of the people and the rights of parents.
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Yes, how dare they stick by their principles and defend peoples' rights no matter what. You're a joke. And a liar.

You can dispute what he has to say but it isn't necessary to call him a lair. Please refrain from such personal attacks.
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But he is a liar, mod. I've proven that in several places. I've proven why his signature is incorrect and yet he continues to use it.

Last warning, please refrain from such personal attacks.
 
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rickn

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Riprorin, do you think people should enjoy sex?
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riprorin is from the period of time when the rythm method was popular. obviously a tradition that passed onto him
 
CADsortaGUY

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Parental notification is a must. Yes, there are safeguard procedures that need to be in place incase the parent is the one involved but from what I've read and heard - these safeguards exist and would not be affected by implementing the parental notification law.

A child that is under 18 doesn't get to make their own medical decisions, a consenting parent does. Abortion should be no different.

This is quite an easy subject yet people don't seem want to understand or discuss it. They instead want to throw out little straw-men like incest or whatever. It'd be nice if this issue didn't turn into a flame-fest against Rip or an overall troll fest for once. ...one can always hope...

CsG
 
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dgevert

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Where I come from, when a person is shown that his claim is wrong, he takes it back. To do so otherwise is dishonest. I've already proven Riprorin's signature to be wrong. He hasn't taken it back.

Come to your own conclusions. Apparently the moderators prefer that I don't help you with that.

You have a PM
 
CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dgevert
Where I come from, when a person is shown that his claim is wrong, he takes it back. To do so otherwise is dishonest. I've already proven Riprorin's signature to be wrong. He hasn't taken it back.

Come to your own conclusions. Apparently the moderators prefer that I don't help you with that.
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Wasn't your post just deleted?

CsG
 
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dgevert

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: dgevert
Where I come from, when a person is shown that his claim is wrong, he takes it back. To do so otherwise is dishonest. I've already proven Riprorin's signature to be wrong. He hasn't taken it back.

Come to your own conclusions. Apparently the moderators prefer that I don't help you with that.
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Wasn't your post just deleted?

CsG
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