According to torrentfreak, CD projekt is going to go RIAA on pirates

[micrometers]

CDP created an awesome game, supported it beyond what any other publisher has done in the past couple years, and sold it without an DRM at all through the online delivery system. If people pirated it after this, then the hammer should come down on them.

this ++++++

 

[Martimus]

You're right that we don't have absolute proof that they're suing innocent people, but they don't seem to realize (or care) that these people that they want to extort money from aren't aggressing against anyone.

This doesn't make much sense.

They are just saying, "you stole my stuff, now I am making you pay for it."

They aren't "aggressing" the thief anymore than the thief "aggressed" them.

 

[Pacman4]

Someone who advocates a stateless society.

The typical def of an anarchist is "one who rejects conventional authority", so does that mean you reject all laws as well?

 

[Anarchist420]

The typical def of an anarchist is "one who rejects conventional authority", so does that mean you reject all laws as well?

I reject all current laws done by force; some are more harmful than others (specifically centralization is much more harmful than confederalism which is definitely tolerable to me and a transition to the latter is probably necessary to bring about a stateless society)

 

[BladeVenom]

Proof?

They have no proof. An IP address is not proof. Have you missed the last 10 years of internet news? Unprotected Wireless Networks! IP Spoofing! Bots! Dynamic IP Addresses! Multipler User Networks! Computer Error! Human Error!

Name one mass lawsuit were they ever actually proved all the accused were guilty. Can't can you?

Anti-piracy lawyers 'knowingly targeted the innocent'

It's a protection racket. You think the law firms care if they are innocent or guilty? They just want a quick settlement.

 

[coloumb]

Sounds like they hired a firm to send out a generic "we noticed your IP address was used to download this game so you must pay for it" scare tactic. It'll work on some people - but most will probably just ignore it. I doubt it'll go any further than that.

 

[Anarchist420]

This doesn't make much sense.

They are just saying, "you stole my stuff, now I am making you pay for it."

They aren't "aggressing" the thief anymore than the thief "aggressed" them.

They aren't aggressing (the state is aggressing), but neither is the person pirating.

I'm not saying CD Projekt should be put out of business, I'm just saying that I find it hard to buy more stuff from them if they support IP. I tend to support organizations that don't support IP.

I don't think they're being aggressive, but they're taking advantage of state aggression and I don't like it when companies do that.

I should note that I don't find DRM to be a problem and there are certainly other ways to make profit without IP.

 

[KaOTiK]

Get back to us when you created something and people are stealing it from you. I bet you'll be singing a different tune when it would comes directly out of your pocket then.

 

[Anarchist420]

Get back to us when you created something and people are stealing it from you. I bet you'll be singing a different tune when it would comes directly out of your pocket then.

No I wouldn't because I don't believe that would be ethical.

 

[KaOTiK]

So you believe it wouldn't be ethical for you to get paid for your goods if someone stole said goods from you? lol sure, either you are nuts or you are trolling us. Maybe a bit of both

 

[JoshGuru7]

Stop the presses, some random person on the internet "doesn't support" intellectual property.

 

[Pacman4]

I reject all current laws done by force;

I'm of the view we could live with less politicians and bureaucrats, but I don't know if we can live without them and without police.

 

[Pacman4]

Stop the presses, some random person on the internet "doesn't support" intellectual property.

He's not alone.....

 

[paperfist]

It seems really excessive the amount of money they are trying to get from people that pirate, but you pirate, you take your chances I guess.

The bigger problem is people the people that are being accused that did not actually pirate, although I would think most of the people they are accusing are acutally guilty. I also wonder how much it is costing to pursue the pirates and if they are actually making a profit on it after all the costs. For sure, they are going to lose a lot of good will.

You kinda answered you own question. The price they are charging takes into consideration the cost of the game, the cost of the tracking company and the cost of a legal firm none of which are cheap.

If you steal something in the US at least you go to jail, pay a fine, do community service or all of the above. So paying a flat out fine is really the nicest way out compared to jail. Plus with a torrent you are not only a pirate yourself, but your helping countless others pirate too.

 

[CrackRabbit]

You sure do spew a lot of baseless bullshit.

I do, however I am quite sure the majority of my posts will have more substance and thought put in to them than anything you will post here. Ever.

You want some substance? Here ya go.

Grow up. Your viewpoint is both childish and outlandish. Anarchist is a word people use to describe themselves when they are to stupid to realize how the world works.
IP rights protect those who want to make money from the works they have created. It isn't free to create them and it sure as hell isn't your right to pirate them when you see fit.
IP laws will continue to protect those creators and allow them to make they money they deserve for their works no matter if you like them or not.

If you have some sort of "moral" crusade against someone wanting to make money selling the product they created, fine. Don't but anything from them anymore.
But don't post a thinly veiled reason for advocating piracy, and stop posting your inane, retarded, ham-fisted drivel to these forums.
They clutter it up for the rest of us who can rub two brain cells together on a regular basis.

 

[Bateluer]

They aren't aggressing (the state is aggressing), but neither is the person pirating.

I'm not saying CD Projekt should be put out of business, I'm just saying that I find it hard to buy more stuff from them if they support IP. I tend to support organizations that don't support IP.

I don't think they're being aggressive, but they're taking advantage of state aggression and I don't like it when companies do that.

I should note that I don't find DRM to be a problem and there are certainly other ways to make profit without IP.

So . . . CDP should just make a product out of the goodness of their hearts, give it way for no charge, support it for no charge, patch it for no charge, etc. They put a lot of work into The Witcher and it shows, and they have every right to earn a profit on it. Buy the game.

 

[colaxs]

Look at their track record. They made a pc exclusive game in an era of poor console ports. They didn't dumb down the graphics, removed all drm, supported the game with free patches that transformed the game, without charging for it.

They put an effort into the production, story, and are not backed by a huge publisher. This franchise is the main money earner for them.

Is it too much to ask the playing public to pay for the game ¿ It is low priced and there aren't any install or activation limits as well. So there are no arguments that can be made for Pirating it.

 

[Craig234]

I bet you'll be singing a different tune...

I have a pirate of his song if you want.

 

[RzeusR]

Well it appears pirates will be a part of our every day life long time from now

 

[AntiFreze]

I do, however I am quite sure the majority of my posts will have more substance and thought put in to them than anything you will post here. Ever.

You want some substance? Here ya go.

Grow up. Your viewpoint is both childish and outlandish. Anarchist is a word people use to describe themselves when they are to stupid to realize how the world works.
IP rights protect those who want to make money from the works they have created. It isn't free to create them and it sure as hell isn't your right to pirate them when you see fit.
IP laws will continue to protect those creators and allow them to make they money they deserve for their works no matter if you like them or not.

If you have some sort of "moral" crusade against someone wanting to make money selling the product they created, fine. Don't but anything from them anymore.
But don't post a thinly veiled reason for advocating piracy, and stop posting your inane, retarded, ham-fisted drivel to these forums.
They clutter it up for the rest of us who can rub two brain cells together on a regular basis.

Nicely said.

 

[AFurryReptile]

CDP said that they would do this right from the beginning with the Witcher 2. People were PRAISING them originally for going this route, rather than intrusive DRM.

I see no problem with it. If CDP wants to go after pirates, that's their prerogative. I paid for the game, it's not going to affect me.

 

[thilanliyan]

CDP is one of the few devs that give a damn about PC games and I wholeheartedly support their efforts in curbing piracy (without ridiculous DRM). I preordered W2 and will support them next time too as long as they continue to support PC gaming.

About DRM, I admire them for not putting much more than a key check. I recently bought Splinter Cell: Conviction from Steam and I for some reason had to sign into Ubi to play the SP game. I said screw it and downloaded a no-DVD patch. I usually just play SP games and it is very annoying to have to jump through hoops to play even SP. No more UBI games for a while.

 

[mindcycle]

CDP said that they would do this right from the beginning with the Witcher 2. People were PRAISING them originally for going this route, rather than intrusive DRM.

I see no problem with it. If CDP wants to go after pirates, that's their prerogative. I paid for the game, it's not going to affect me.

I agree. Publishers and devs have to take action like this to try and combat piracy of their products since there is not a good alternative at the moment. DRM doesn't work and there isn't a reasonable way for governments to combat online piracy yet.. if ever.

If the individuals they contacted actually did pirate the game and agree to pay then I would think it's less likely they will pirate things in the future and may even influence those around them. Piracy isn't going away anytime soon, however, you've got to start somewhere..

And yes, false positives will come up during a torrent "IP search", it's bound to happen. I hope they are taking that into consideration and dropping anything that doesn't seem appropriate.

 

[Shmee]

good for them. Honestly, as long as they only try to sue those guilty, and they dont put DRM on, thats fine.

Also, lay off the personal attacks guys, this is controversial and not everyone is going to agree.

 

[Ns1]

So . . . CDP should just make a product out of the goodness of their hearts, give it way for no charge, support it for no charge, patch it for no charge, etc. They put a lot of work into The Witcher and it shows, and they have every right to earn a profit on it. Buy the game.

stop thinking like a 1%'er, give it to the people man. Who gives a fuck about you know, recouping expenses and shit cuz it's all about FREE IP!!!