According to studies, Your daughter has a 20% chance of getting raped in College.

[Hugo Drax]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-survey-showed-about-27-top-u-s-universities/

WOW 20%!!!! That means 2 out of 10. So College is Rape central.

7% of men are raped in Brown University.

I wonder how this compares to prison.

 

[bshole]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-survey-showed-about-27-top-u-s-universities/

WOW 20%!!!! That means 2 out of 10. So College is Rape central.

7% of men are raped in Brown University.

I wonder how this compares to prison.

My wife was raped in college. She never reported it. Going to keggers is not something I would ever recommend to my daughter. NEVER EVER GO BACK TO A BOYS ROOM ALONE. He is going to expect sex and if he is drunk he may not take no as an answer.

 

[Hugo Drax]

My wife was raped in college. She never reported it. Going to keggers is not something I would ever recommend to my daughter. NEVER EVER GO BACK TO A BOYS ROOM ALONE. He is going to expect sex and if he is drunk he may not take no as an answer.

I think the problem is parents don't explain to their daughters the risks involved. So they go to College with zero knowledge and assume getting drunk till blacking out in a room full of men is a safe thing to do. Then they end up waking up naked in some room with an ass that aches and a tube of KY next to her.

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-survey-showed-about-27-top-u-s-universities/

WOW 20%!!!! That means 2 out of 10. So College is Rape central.

7% of men are raped in Brown University.

I wonder how this compares to prison.

The survey says ~20% were subject to sexual assault or misconduct, not that 20% were raped. The two things are hugely different.

Also, the problem isn't with women not knowing the risk, the problem is with people committing sexual assault. While it would certainly be helpful for people to evaluate their circumstances better, we should never lose sight of the fact that it's 100% the perpetrator's fault.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I believe the onus falls on the sons committing the rape, not the woman who may or may not be drunk, may or may not be wearing 'revealing' clothing, etc.

Too much of the blame falls on the woman, imo.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I think the problem is parents don't explain to their daughters the risks involved. So they go to College with zero knowledge and assume getting drunk till blacking out in a room full of men is a safe thing to do. Then they end up waking up naked in some room with an ass that aches and a tube of KY next to her.

I think the problem is parents don't explain to their sons that if you ever, ever, ever rape somebody, your parents will cut your dick off and bury you. Why is it on the parents of the victim and not the parents of the perpetrator?

 

[SLU Aequitas]

I think the problem is parents don't explain to their sons that if you ever, ever, ever rape somebody, your parents will cut your dick off and bury you. Why is it on the parents of the victim and not the parents of the perpetrator?

This. However, on the flip side, I really don't trust others to instill this lesson, so I'll teach my daughter what to avoid as well.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I believe the onus falls on the sons committing the rape, not the woman who may or may not be drunk, may or may not be wearing 'revealing' clothing, etc.

Too much of the blame falls on the woman, imo.

Being morally in the clear but blackout drunk around rapists doesn't get you any less raped. People are responsible for the situations they choose to put themselves in.

To be perfectly clear, I'm sure as hell not defending the rapists, but they're rapists, it's what they do.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

This. However, on the flip side, I really don't trust others to instill this lesson, so I'll teach my daughter what to avoid as well.

No doubt. My daughter is getting the butterfly knife lesson from Face/Off. But if I ever have a son, he's getting the "daddy loves you, but if you rape someone, I will end you" talk. If young men are the ones committing all the rapes (and on college campuses, that's a pretty good assumption), then you'd better take the time out to teach young men right from wrong.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Being morally in the clear but blackout drunk around rapists doesn't get you any less raped. People are responsible for the situations they choose to put themselves in.

To be perfectly clear, I'm sure as hell not defending the rapists, but they're rapists, it's what they do.

You do realize we're talking about college campuses and not vikings, right? What were your classes like? "Look to your left, then to your right; one of these men is probably raping you right now."

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

You do realize we're talking about college campuses and not vikings, right? What were your classes like? "Look to your left, then to your right; one of these men is probably raping you right now."

Don't ask me, ask all the rapists that are apparently infesting college campuses.

 

[Cozarkian]

I think the problem is parents don't explain to their sons that if you ever, ever, ever rape somebody, your parents will cut your dick off and bury you. Why is it on the parents of the victim and not the parents of the perpetrator?

You teach your kids to minimize the risk of rape for the same reason you teach them not to leave their car unlocked with the keys in the ignition when you go to the mall.

You can be 100% free from moral blame and still be fairly criticized for stupidity.

 

[PokerGuy]

A few things to note. These were voluntary surveys of the student population. Most of the schools listed had response rates around 30 to 35%. There's an obvious response bias problem with such a survey, those who think they've been victimized are much more likely to respond. Also, the survey says around 20% were subjected to "misconduct" or assault. Misconduct is a very vague and broad category, which could include someone making an undesired comment or gesture -- very different than assault.

You have two completely different things going on here IMO. You have inappropriate behavior on the part of (mostly) men, rape/assault/misconduct etc. At the same time, you have the sjw crazies who view all men as evil rapists and want policies that place all the burden on men to prove their innocence.

Always take such surveys with a grain of salt because they are done with an agenda.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Why is it that we reward stupidity so much in so many situations, for example, we donate money to megachurches and then give them free tax passes, but if a woman does something stupid there is a shitstorm about "women need to be smarter" rather then having 100% of all the anger pointed at the "ohh yea, rape is fucking horrible and can not be tolerated under any circumstances or situation"?

The person who gets raped is not the guilty one. They might be the stupid one, but its not illegal or immoral to be stupid.

 

[PokerGuy]

Don't ask me, ask all the rapists that are apparently infesting college campuses.

You're taking the survey results at face value, they need to be taken with a boulder of salt.

 

[Atreus21]

The survey says ~20% were subject to sexual assault or misconduct, not that 20% were raped. The two things are hugely different.

Also, the problem isn't with women not knowing the risk, the problem is with people committing sexual assault. While it would certainly be helpful for people to evaluate their circumstances better, we should never lose sight of the fact that it's 100% the perpetrator's fault.

What effect does the rate of response (roughly 30% for most) have on these numbers?

 

[BoberFett]

20% doesn't even pass the smell test. Try thinking, people.

 

[PokerGuy]

What effect does the rate of response (roughly 30% for most) have on these numbers?

See post #13

 

[Strk]

I believe the onus falls on the sons committing the rape, not the woman who may or may not be drunk, may or may not be wearing 'revealing' clothing, etc.

Too much of the blame falls on the woman, imo.

You would think it would be obvious, but too much blame is placed on victims even in the most progressive countries/states/towns.

I guess this sums up my stance on rape

 

[Newell Steamer]

Blaming someone means there is evidence they were responsible for what happened.

I am not sure how someone who is drugged, beaten and / or physically forced to have sex with is evidence in anyway shape or form that supports they were responsible for what happened.

The victims are being tortured with such accusations - plain and simple. Which is why the usual ilk has taken it a step further and demand impregnated rape victims carry, birth and raise their rapist's child.

So, this has nothing to do with seeking the truth (or respecting and honoring life) - this is about bashing women.

Funny thing is, the people who downplay rape visa vi 'you wouldn't have gotten raped if you didn't allow X, Y & Z to happen' are invoking being honest and responsible,... yet, they themselves hide behind the very concept (because they are cowards) to further harm women.

"Rape doesn't exist"

"Rape isn't that bad"

"Rape is overblown"

Disgusting.

 

[Ackmed]

Sexual assault or misconduct is not always rape. So claiming that 20% of women will get raped is wrong. The article claims that 20% were victims of sexual assault or misconduct. Very misleading.

Blaming someone means there is evidence they were responsible for what happened.

I am not sure how someone who is drugged, beaten and / or physically forced to have sex with is evidence in anyway shape or form that supports they were responsible for what happened.

Victim blaming is terrible. However, there are things a person can do to prevent being a victim. Not getting black out drunk, keeping friends around, not going anywhere alone, etc.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Everyone realizes that some events were unwanted touching or kissing. Goes back to the 90s statement that to some women its rape to others it was a bad date.

 

[Ackmed]

The OP obviously doesn't have a clue.

 

[Jaskalas]

Isn't this last year's study?
And you don't call it victim blaming when you tell your friend its a bad idea to don a white sheet in Harlem. Education and raising awareness is not victim blaming.

Telling people not to do something stupid IS NOT mutually exclusive to prosecuting the predators. However, what good does it do the victims AFTER they are attacked? The goal should be prevention and for that no aspect or avenue should be overlooked.

 

[Darwin333]

The survey says ~20% were subject to sexual assault or misconduct, not that 20% were raped. The two things are hugely different.

Also, the problem isn't with women not knowing the risk, the problem is with people committing sexual assault. While it would certainly be helpful for people to evaluate their circumstances better, we should never lose sight of the fact that it's 100% the perpetrator's fault.

I have always wondered something. If both parties are two drunk or inebriated to give consent and they have sex, which party is the perpetrator? Is it automatically the male?