AC Silencer rev.3 installed on my GTX, with results and pic

Ackmed

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First off, Im sorry if these pics are too large. I resized them down from 1920x1200, but maybe not enough for everyone.

Ok, this is my first AC Silencer ever. I bought one before for a 6800GT, but sold the card just after I got it, and never installed it. It has been 2 hours of very frustrating installation for this rev.3 model. There are two huge errors with this heatsink. The first I found was, there is no way to secure the backside memory heatsink. On the stock version, it screws to the main heatsink itself, thru the PCB. With the AC version, there are no screws, and no way to screw it to the heatsink even if there were. So I did a little reseach, I remember Asus having an AC heatsink on theirs.

Here are two pics from the Firingsquad review of the Asus GTX with the AC heatsink:

Asus AC

Asus AC shot 2

As you can see, there are plastic barbs that secure the backside heatsink. I got no such parts with mine. I looked on AC's website, and saw no such parts either. How does it attach to a 6800? Did they simply leave out the parts, or are they not supposed to be there? I asked this because in the instructions it has no mention on how to secure the heatsink.

In step 6, the last line after telling you how to apply the thermal pads is this blurb, "Finally press the cooling plate again firmly onto each memory." Again, there is no mention of any kind on how to secure the back heatsink. I pressed it as it said, but of course it fell off when installed in my PC.. so annoying. So it looks like I need some barbs like the Asus model uses, if anyone knows where to buy some, let me know please.

On to the second problem. This one cost me about an hour or so by itself. After installing the heatsink, I booted up to windows. Checked my temps, they looks pretty good. Put it under load, and the temps soared to almost 100c. I shut down the PC, was about to pull out the card to see if I messed up the plug some how. Then I thought I better check to see if the fan is even working at all. Suprise, it wasnt! So I took out the card, checked the plug, it seemed ok. Since there is only one way to plug them in, as anyone who has done it would know. I double and triple checked, I did it correctly.

My next step was hooking up a spare PSU, and rigging up a connection for the fan, to check and see if it was ok. Hooked up a 4 pin molex to a 3 pin fan connector, then plugged it into the AC fan. Worked just fine. So then I was a little confused. As my stock fan was just working fine an hour or so before. So I got online again, and check Firingsquads review once again. I wanted to check and see how the wires were in the plug.

Asus AC wire

Bingo! From this pic you can clearly see that the red wire, is on the inside. Mine was on the outside. I took a few mins, carefully changed how the wires were. Put the red on the inside, like the pic was showing. Booted up the PC, and the fan was now working.. :D

Ok, so after the problems I had, I was curious to see if it was worth it, or not. Before the heatsink came in today, I ran some tests with the stock cooler, at idle and load. Both tests were under the exact same conditions, just with the different cooler. rthdribl was a little bigger for stock, I didnt notice it until I was resizing the pics. I ran the test again real fast, results were the same at the same res.


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So we can see, the stock heatsink was at 76c, while the Silencer was at 63c. Thats a pretty large difference to me.


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Again the Silencer is much better. Strange its a 13c difference again.. 54c to 41c.

I hope this helps anyone who was thinking about getting one for their GTX. And maybe gives a heads up to the two problems I had. I have been waiting every since the first week they came out, and I got mine, for AC to get one ready. I didnt want the Zalman before someone tells me about that. I was the very hot air, outside of my case, not swirling around the inside, making the overall case temp hotter.

As I said, this is my first time using any AC product. I am thrilled with the performance, but not with the setup. I have a hard time believing that my wiring problem is limited to just mine. I hope its not an issue that will effect a lot of people. I also have to get something to secure the back heatsink. I will be emailing AC with my problems, hopefully they will help me out.
 

Ackmed

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Im sorry the first post is screwed up, and it wont let me edit. Please disregard it, as you cant click some pics!!!! Here is how it should have been, should have PREviewed it first. :(

First off, Im sorry if these pics are too large. I resized them down from 1920x1200, but maybe not enough for everyone.

Ok, this is my first AC Silencer ever. I bought one before for a 6800GT, but sold the card just after I got it, and never installed it. It has been 2 hours of very frustrating installation for this rev.3 model. There are two huge errors with this heatsink. The first I found was, there is no way to secure the backside memory heatsink. On the stock version, it screws to the main heatsink itself, thru the PCB. With the AC version, there are no screws, and no way to screw it to the heatsink even if there were. So I did a little reseach, I remember Asus having an AC heatsink on theirs.

Here are two pics from the Firingsquad review of the Asus GTX with the AC heatsink:

Asus AC

Asus AC shot 2

As you can see, there are plastic barbs that secure the backside heatsink. I got no such parts with mine. I looked on AC's website, and saw no such parts either. How does it attach to a 6800? Did they simply leave out the parts, or are they not supposed to be there? I asked this because in the instructions it has no mention on how to secure the heatsink.

In step 6, the last line after telling you how to apply the thermal pads is this blurb, "Finally press the cooling plate again firmly onto each memory." Again, there is no mention of any kind on how to secure the back heatsink. I pressed it as it said, but of course it fell off when installed in my PC.. so annoying. So it looks like I need some barbs like the Asus model uses, if anyone knows where to buy some, let me know please.

On to the second problem. This one cost me about an hour or so by itself. After installing the heatsink, I booted up to windows. Checked my temps, they looks pretty good. Put it under load, and the temps soared to almost 100c. I shut down the PC, was about to pull out the card to see if I messed up the plug some how. Then I thought I better check to see if the fan is even working at all. Suprise, it wasnt! So I took out the card, checked the plug, it seemed ok. Since there is only one way to plug them in, as anyone who has done it would know. I double and triple checked, I did it correctly.

My next step was hooking up a spare PSU, and rigging up a connection for the fan, to check and see if it was ok. Hooked up a 4 pin molex to a 3 pin fan connector, then plugged it into the AC fan. Worked just fine. So then I was a little confused. As my stock fan was just working fine an hour or so before. So I got online again, and check Firingsquads review once again. I wanted to check and see how the wires were in the plug.

Asus AC wire

Bingo! From this pic you can clearly see that the red wire, is on the inside. Mine was on the outside. I took a few mins, carefully changed how the wires were. Put the red on the inside, like the pic was showing. Booted up the PC, and the fan was now working.. :D

Ok, so after the problems I had, I was curious to see if it was worth it, or not. Before the heatsink came in today, I ran some tests with the stock cooler, at idle and load. Both tests were under the exact same conditions, just with the different cooler. rthdribl was a little bigger for stock, I didnt notice it until I was resizing the pics. I ran the test again real fast, results were the same at the same res.


Stock Load


AC Load

So we can see, the stock heatsink was at 76c, while the Silencer was at 63c. Thats a pretty large difference to me.


Stock Idle


AC Idle

Again the Silencer is much better. Strange its a 13c difference again.. 54c to 41c.

I hope this helps anyone who was thinking about getting one for their GTX. And maybe gives a heads up to the two problems I had. I have been waiting every since the first week they came out, and I got mine, for AC to get one ready. I didnt want the Zalman before someone tells me about that. I was the very hot air, outside of my case, not swirling around the inside, making the overall case temp hotter.

As I said, this is my first time using any AC product. I am thrilled with the performance, but not with the setup. I have a hard time believing that my wiring problem is limited to just mine. I hope its not an issue that will effect a lot of people. I also have to get something to secure the back heatsink. I will be emailing AC with my problems, hopefully they will help me out.


 

xtknight

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Excellent cooling. Low temps for a 7800GTX.

What do you mean it won't let you edit?
 

Ackmed

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I hit edit, and there is no button to hit reply again, after I edit it. I dont know why, first time its happened. There is a ton of strange code in there too. Probably some error when I tried to bold the wording for the last few pics.
 

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All the more reason to just get WC and install a block on that card. I've got a DD block on mine that works great, took about 5 mins to install it and my load temps never go above 45 C :) BTW aren't you fallguy on HardOCP? If you are, I know you've got a lian li like mine with an AC reservoir so why didn't you use a water block? Or did you get rid of your WC setup?
 

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Sounds like this is a must for all GTX users or even GT users since it brings the temps by up to 15C at load and idle.

GTs are 60c load most of the time, imagine getting about 40~50ish load with the new Nv silencer5 rev3 :D

If you have space, that is.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
All the more reason to just get WC and install a block on that card. I've got a DD block on mine that works great, took about 5 mins to install it and my load temps never go above 45 C :) BTW aren't you fallguy on HardOCP? If you are, I know you've got a lian li like mine with an AC reservoir so why didn't you use a water block? Or did you get rid of your WC setup?


Yes Im fallguy. Yes I had about $800 invested in Aqua-Computer WC gear. Dual loop, two res', two pumps, etc... It was my 4th WC rig in a row.. just wanted a break, and went to air. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
All the more reason to just get WC and install a block on that card. I've got a DD block on mine that works great, took about 5 mins to install it and my load temps never go above 45 C :) BTW aren't you fallguy on HardOCP? If you are, I know you've got a lian li like mine with an AC reservoir so why didn't you use a water block? Or did you get rid of your WC setup?


Yes Im fallguy. Yes I had about $800 invested in Aqua-Computer WC gear. Dual loop, two res', two pumps, etc... It was my 4th WC rig in a row.. just wanted a break, and went to air. :)


wow you're the first person I've seen who actually wanted air cooling over water.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
All the more reason to just get WC and install a block on that card. I've got a DD block on mine that works great, took about 5 mins to install it and my load temps never go above 45 C :) BTW aren't you fallguy on HardOCP? If you are, I know you've got a lian li like mine with an AC reservoir so why didn't you use a water block? Or did you get rid of your WC setup?


Yes Im fallguy. Yes I had about $800 invested in Aqua-Computer WC gear. Dual loop, two res', two pumps, etc... It was my 4th WC rig in a row.. just wanted a break, and went to air. :)


wow you're the first person I've seen who actually wanted air cooling over water.

As I said, I had 4 WC rigs in a row. Even a phase-change with WC. Just wanted a break from it for awhile.

As for overclocking numbers, I havent manually tried for anything higher. Auto test got 4Mhz core, and 10Mhz ram more I think. So not much that way. But I havent tried to manually overclock it. The main reason I wanted the heatsink, was to get the hot air out of my case. Im anal that way I guess, which is why I have used watercooling for so long I guess.

 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
All the more reason to just get WC and install a block on that card. I've got a DD block on mine that works great, took about 5 mins to install it and my load temps never go above 45 C :) BTW aren't you fallguy on HardOCP? If you are, I know you've got a lian li like mine with an AC reservoir so why didn't you use a water block? Or did you get rid of your WC setup?

Are you o/c'd? Wondering what speeds you get.
 

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I finished installing the Rev. 3 on my GTX about 20 minutes ago. I ran into the same issue that Ackmed did with the wire, but yesterday I read a review here that shows the issues that Ackmed experienced, so I was prepared for them. Other than the wire, I had no issues with installation. My load temps are ~60c and idle is around ~38c. Auto detect overclock went from 500/1380 using a Zalman VF700-ALCu to 515/1400 using the silencer. That's it for now...still testing.. :) :thumbsup:


Self
 

imported_ST

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Funny, I posted this yesterday in another thread, and with my Asus 7800GTX also:

fyi - got my NV Silencer 5 Rev. 3 today for the GTX. Was a little of a PITA to install (Asus and their proprietary fan connectors! :angry: ). Anyhow, it works great as seen below:

Temps before:
Idle: 46C
Load: 75C

Temps after:
Idle: 40C
Load: 56C !!!!

In terms of quietness, I honestly don't notice a difference. Case temps did seem to drop from 36C to now around 31C.

ALthough I still recommend it, the backside heatspreader plate seems to be barely be held on (the thermal tape isn't that sticky). I may have to get some heatsink fins for them instead.
 

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btw - overclock numbers:

hehe, you're gonna trip over the new overclock:

before: 500 core /1350 mem

after: 520 core / 1400 mem (auto-detect)

I was pretty surprised too. Ran several games at this and no artifacts or screen tears.

I looked at the zalman / thermal right solutions before buying this. The NV silencer was better imho, because it exhausted air out, not around into the case. For an HTPC, it crucial to keep things kool in the tight confines.
 

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Originally posted by: Amuro
Originally posted by: Yourself
Originally posted by: Amuro
A retail version shouldn't have the 2 problems mentioned in the review.

http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php?id=acnvsilencer5rev31

I thought the same thing, but it did. I even e-mailed the reviewer at 3dextreme to alert him to the issues I had with my install.

It shouldn't be mass available for retail until Oct 15.


What does that mean? You can buy them retail from about a dozen different sites...
 
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So? A lot of sites don't have it till later this month. Even Arctic Cooling's own site says Oct 15, and it's not even listed in the product search.
 

Ackmed

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Then they shouldnt have released them for resell.

I didnt see that review, would have helped me out a lot. :( Anyone know where to get those little barbs?

Why didnt they comment on the lack of barbs for the backplate? You can obviously see they dont have them. I cant imagine it would stay on by itself.
 
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The thermal tapes are supposed to be sticky enough to hold the backplate in place. You should contact Arctic Cooling and ask them to send you some replacement termal tapes.
 

Keysplayr

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Oh crap, I started another thread without realizing this was still here. Haven't finished my coffee yet.

They are all sold out at newegg. I have auto-notify when available. Want to get one of these. Does anyone think it would help to place little ramsinks in the indentations on the backplate? Would it assist in cooling the ram? Thoughts?

Great post by the way Ackmed.
 

Yourself

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Oh crap, I started another thread without realizing this was still here. Haven't finished my coffee yet.

They are all sold out at newegg. I have auto-notify when available. Want to get one of these. Does anyone think it would help to place little ramsinks in the indentations on the backplate? Would it assist in cooling the ram? Thoughts?

Great post by the way Ackmed.

Keys...

Try here...they are in stock....
 

Ackmed

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I got mine from frozencpu.com Its where I shop first for cooling, PC mod type stuff.

I cant imagine that AC thinks the plate will stay on by itself. It wont. Perhaps in an AGP based system, where the back plate would be facing up, and gravity would keep it there. But on a PCI-E system, its on the bottom, and simply will not stay on.