AC Freezer Pro 7 High Temps

TwwIX

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I Am getting rather high load temps with it, even though i did not overclock the system that much.

http://img527.imageshack.us/my...?image=19408276ex6.jpg

I've tried AS5 and MX-2 on it. Tried applying them in different ways to no avail.
From spreading the paste across it with a credit card to applying a line across the CPU,small rice sized drop drop etc. No changes in temps even after 200 hours burn in time. Could it be poor air flow? Help me! I Am at a loss here.

By the way, this things a pain in the ass to install. I have already broken one lock in pin and had to replace it from my stock hs. Any good backplate kits out there you could recommend?

Thx in advance.
 

supremelaw

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There's a "bolt-thru-kit" that replaces those push pins:

here

... and much more explanation here (if you need the full story):

WARNING


I hope this helps.


Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, Inventor and
Webmaster, Supreme Law Library

All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
 

TwwIX

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I will definitely have to get that backplate. These push pins are a fucking joke. The engineers should be ashamed for not addressing this. Anyway,tyvm for the info.
 

supremelaw

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You're very welcome.

Also, check out this thread
where it discusses the "bushing".

The 4 chrome feet on Intel's stock HSF are NOT designed
to touch the motherboard, but are elevated above the
motherboard by a white bushing.

Sidewinder's bolt-thru-kit does not appear to come
with substitute bushings, so the ones on Intel's HSF
may need to be re-cycled. See photos here .


Good luck!


Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, Inventor and
Webmaster, Supreme Law Library

All Rights Reserved without Prejudice

 

TwwIX

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I got the bolt thru kit along with this http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811156098 for some proper air flow. Well, the temps are still the same and i am starting to run out of options here. Either the CPU is to blame or my AC Freezer Pro 7. Some people are saying that "lapping" the CPU will lower the temperature up to 10c. It appears that the IHS of this CPU is not soldered hence the high temps.
 

40sTheme

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Eh..
Raidmax cases aren't really THAT great for airflow. What case did you have before?
Also, did you reapply thermal grease after taking off the ACF7P? If you didn't, unmount it, get all the grease off of the CPU and cooler with isopropyl alcohol, and then put a thin line of thermal grease down the middle of the CPU, and remount.
 

TwwIX

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Of course i have reapplied it. Not once or twice but dozens of times in several different ways. Including your vertical line suggestion like instructed on www.arctic-cooling.com. Both greases offer the same results. It makes no difference. The temps are the same regardless the case. Hence my frustration.
 

40sTheme

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Very odd. My ACF7P in my old NZXT Hush kept me 1 or 2C below 50C with my E2180 @2.9GHz. I have no clue; unless it's RealTemp reporting correctly and CoreTemp reporting falsely.
 

TwwIX

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Well, i have reset everything in the bios and took it down to its stock speed.
Guess what? Same temp. This CPU is really starting to get on my nerves.
 

scruffypup

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I am wondering as well about some things here,...
your image shows at 100% load max temp of 59C on core temp and 45C on real temp,... you are nowhere near running into temp problems for the cpu.

The 4300 defaults to 1.8 ghz, you are at 2.4 ghz,... you are at a 33% overclock, not getting in dangerous territory with the temps and running a decent but not awesome HSF, what are you looking for? Keep in mind also the older 65nm with all else the same runs hotter than the 45nm wolfdales,.. so if you are going by what you heard in a review,... keep in mind the differences between reviews and what you have.

Secondly,... what other components do you have,... a hot graphics card, hot psu will add,... more than 1 harddrive will add,.. etc

Third,... if you really think your HSF is not doing what you want,... do this,.. take the side panel off and let it run a while, do the same tests and see if there is a temp diff of more than a few degrees,... that will tell you if you are having issues with airflow through the case,... if so look at rectifying that. If the open case doesn't get the temps you want,... you want a better HSF,... don't expect miracles when they aren' made to be,... this HSF is good but there are better and the AC freezer pro 7 is only going to take you as far as it is designed to,....

Lastly,... lap if you want too,... but don't expect miracles again,... 10 degrees (at least when we are talking celsius) is trying to work miracles again,... expect 1-3 realisticly, sometimes we can have things that surpass expectations,.. but set your expectations realistically.

Oh yeah, one last thing,... real temp and core temp should report different temps. They have different TjMax settings,... so they will show on many core 2 a temp diff of about 10 degrees. Off the top of my head I can't remember which is "more correct", but core temp TjMax is default of 105 and real temp 95 I am pretty sure,... if you are not surpassing 60 degrees on coretemp,.. you are well within limits of the processor,... as you don't have to really stress about temps until just over 70 degrees and coretemp is reporting on the high side anyways,....
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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Just lap it. And lap your IHS of the cpu too- by getting an aftermarket cooling device you've already voided the warranty anyhow- why not get a few more degrees out of your setup?
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
by getting an aftermarket cooling device you've already voided the warranty anyhow

Really? So installing a better cpu heatsink to keep the temperature lower and extend the life of the chip and thus reducing the risk of a malfunction, the warranty is voided?
 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
by getting an aftermarket cooling device you've already voided the warranty anyhow

Really? So installing a better cpu heatsink to keep the temperature lower and extend the life of the chip and thus reducing the risk of a malfunction, the warranty is voided?

Intel does not warrant that the Product will be free from design defects or errors known as ?errata.?
Current characterized errata are available upon request. Further, this Limited Warranty does NOT cover:
? any costs associated with the repair or replacement of the Product including labor,
installation or other costs incurred by you, and in particular, any costs relating to the removal
or replacement of any Product that is soldered or otherwise permanently af? xed to any
printed circuit board; OR
? damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical
power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance
with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper
testing; OR
? any Product which has been modi?ed or operated outside of Intel?s publicly available
speci? cations or where the original identi? cation markings (trademark or serial number) has
been removed, altered or obliterated from the Product.

Technically you are modifying their product by not using their supplied materials. Of course, it would be hard for them to prove this; unless it is horrible obvious.

Just sayin...