Abusive Adolescents

joincamp

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Without getting into personal stuff, I'd like to discuss your thoughts on abusive teenagers. Society provides lots of help for those who are verbaly and physically abused by fathers and mothers. A child who calls a number can be swooped up in a matter of minutes and protected. But, what about abusive teens. I know that the really bad ones will get locked away and such. But what about before it gets to that point, or the ones that are too smart to cross that line? It used to be such that parents had absolute authority over their children. No more. Once children realize that there really are no consequences in their life, things turn a little crazy. You'd think that soceity would do something if they are called out on it, but they are able to put on an act when they want and use the system to their advantage. They don't have to go to school (truancy is a joke), be home, help with anything, etc. Once they see through the false authority of parents and school, it's such a joke. Most well adjusted children have senses of guilt, responsibility, accountability. What about children that don't care at all? They can do whatever they want, break your stuff, scream in your ear, push you, threaten you, and so on, and there is nothing in the world you can do. The cops won't do anything if they don't see it happen, and the children aren't stupid enough to let that happen. There are a few options for commiting them against their will, but that is super expensive, and will likely just escalate the situation.

Cliffs: Kid's can do whatever the heck they want these days cause they realize we can't do anything back. Thoughts, feelings? Discuss.

Edit: i suck at spelling, oh well
 

oboeguy

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1. Blame the parents.
2. The bad kids will eventually get what they deserve.

Next question?
 

Zanix

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I think it boils down to a battle of wits.

You have to outsmart them and make them feel dumb, I think.

Fail that, who knows?
 

shimsham

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a parent has as much authority as they want to exert. you just have to make sure its consistent and begins early. you cant just start busting ass when theyre 13. by that time its probably already too late.
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: joincamp
Without getting into personal stuff, I'd like to discuss your thoughts on abusive teenagers. Society provides lots of help for those who are verbaly and physically abused by fathers and mothers. A child who calls a number can be swooped up in a matter of minutes and protected. But, what about abusive teens. I know that the really bad ones will get locked away and such. But what about before it gets to that point, or the ones that are too smart to cross that line? It used to be such that parents had absolute authority over their children. No more. Once children realize that there really are no consequences in their life, things turn a little crazy. You'd think that soceity would do something if they are called out on it, but they are able to put on an act when they want and use the system to their advantage. They don't have to go to school (truancy is a joke), be home, help with anything, etc. Once they see through the false authority of parents and school, it's such a joke. Most well adjusted children have senses of guilt, responsibility, accountability. What about children that don't care at all? They can do whatever they want, break your stuff, scream in your ear, push you, threaten you, and so on, and there is nothing in the world you can do. The cops won't do anything if they don't see it happen, and the children aren't stupid enough to let that happen. There are a few options for commiting them against their will, but that is super expensive, and will likely just escalate the situation.

Cliffs: Kid's can do whatever the heck they want these days cause they realize we can't do anything back. Thoughts, feelings? Discuss.

These child abuse laws have gone to far. They make kids realize that parents can't punish them for doing things wrong.

In California if a parent so much as lays a finger on their kid, and he calls the police that parents will be arrested. No harm needs to have been done, just touching the child is abuse enough.
 

joincamp

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Originally posted by: shimsham
a parent has as much authority as they want to exert. you just have to make sure its consistent and begins early. you cant just start busting ass when theyre 13. by that time its probably already too late.

how so? they can be sumbissive for their childhood and then come to the realization that they don't have to submit anymore. Then what? You can talk, yell, whatever, but if they write you off, they can essentially live in your house, do whatever they want and you cant do a thing. Try to stop them, and you get convicted.

Originally posted by: oboeguy

1. Blame the parents.
2. The bad kids will eventually get what they deserve.

Next question?

1. bad kids =/= bad parents.
2. what if you want to help them? what if you dont want them to get what they deserve and want better for them.

The point is, is that it's really depressing. Parents can get walked all over and can't do anything about it. They see their kids going in the wrong direction but they have no avenues to help those kids out. Then when the kid freaks out one day and kills someone, they blame the parents, but what if those parents have been screaming for help all along?