Abstinence only works just like it is intend.....

[RightIsWrong]

I guess they will just deal with the loss of funding from the Bush "Abstinence Only" program.

Source

An Ohio school board is expanding sex education following the revelation that 13 percent of one high school's female students were pregnant last year.

There were 490 female students at Timken High School in 2005, and 65 were pregnant, WEWS-TV in Cleveland reported.

The new Canton school board program promotes abstinence but also will teach students who decide to have sex how to do so responsibly, bringing the city school district's health curriculum in line with national standards.
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The board made the changes in a vote at its regular meeting Monday.

The Rev. David Morgan served on a committee that developed the lesson plans. He said the new curriculum moves beyond the "Just Say No" approach.

Health textbooks, older than some students, will be replaced.

"If we had math books from 1988, reading books from 1988, as a parent, I would be furious," said Patty Rafailedes, a physical education teacher.

The Ohio Department of Education doesn't require schools to provide sex education, particularly when it comes to using contraceptives. The state curriculum calls for venereal disease education, which often is taught along with nutrition and the effects of drugs, alcohol and tobacco.

"Sex is more complex than the information about drugs and alcohol," said Bill Albert, a spokesman for the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. "It is not a not-now, not-ever message."

According to the Canton Health Department, statistics through July 2005 showed that 104 of the 586 babies born to Canton residents in Aultman Hospital and Mercy Medical Center had mothers between the ages of 11 and 19.

For the apologists that will surely chime in claiming that this isn't Bush's fault, I present to you Exhibit A:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/fbci/grants-catalog-abstinence.html (Notice the source of this information)

The purpose of the SPRANS Community-Based Abstinence Education Project Grants is to provide support to public and private entities for the development and implementation of abstinence education programs for adolescents, ages 12 through 18, in communities across the country. Projects funded through the SPRANS Community-Based Abstinence Education grant program must promote abstinence-only education as defined by Section 510 of Title V of the Social Security Act and agree not to provide a participating adolescent any other education regarding sexual conduct in the same setting. Any public or private entity, including a non-profit or faith-based organization, is eligible to apply for funding under the SPRANS Community-Based Abstinence Education Project Grant program. Projects have to be community-based and must involve an educational intervention. There is no match requirement for these grants.

 

[Strk]

I wonder when people will realize how bad abstinence-only education truly is?

 

[Todd33]

All species are programmed to procreate. Good luck getting the masses to overcome millions of years of evolution...

 

[dahunan]

I haven't found a better drug than an good Orgasm yet :laugh:

 

[SKoprowski]

Oral Sex Ed is where is at! Simple fix...no babies...very little STD/HIV risk.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: SKoprowski
Oral Sex Ed is where is at! Simple fix...no babies...very little STD/HIV risk.

You can get pretty much all of them from oral sex, if not all of them.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: SKoprowski
Oral Sex Ed is where is at! Simple fix...no babies...very little STD/HIV risk.

You can get pretty much all of them from oral sex, if not all of them.

The chances of contracting HIV through unprotected oral sex may be zero, researchers in the US have found. But it is unlikely that this will make health organisations change their official advice that oral sex poses a risk for HIV infection.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/hiv/dn1156

Better than nothing!

 

[SKoprowski]

I've worked in HIV/STD for the past 13 years in a STD Clinic......risk is extremely low for most, if not all STDs/HIV. In the 13 years I have been seeing patients I have never had a patient get HIV exclusively from oral sex, never had a male patient get HIV from a female and only have had a handful of patients get a STD from oral sex- most of the infections were syphilis and GC.

If any teenagers are going to have sex- oral sex is the less risky of all activities with the exception of mutual masterbation. You are all kidding yourself if you are going to get young people to stop having sex. Look at my sig BTW and look where I live It is my understanding the stats of that story are quite exaggerated.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: SKoprowski
Oral Sex Ed is where is at! Simple fix...no babies...very little STD/HIV risk.

Looks like sex ed worked for you lol

You can get most STDs on your face or mouth, the idea that oral sex is the key to all this is a falacy, and a terrible thing to tell people.

 

[GoPackGo]

I like how it says "ages 11 to 19" well 18 and above you are an adult.

16 to 17 is usual AOC.

The stats should show 11 to 15...and how many 11 to 13 year old girls are having kids anyway?

We need abstinence first education...but knowing they will do it anyway they should be prepared to protect themselves.

I believe South Park covered the topic quite nicely.

 

[SKoprowski]

You can get in a car accident too- but do you get into car accident every time you drive?

Oral sex is the less risky of all sex- if teenagers are going to involve themselves I would rather have them perform oral sex. I work with this every day- the reality is that teenagers need to be presented with all the information to make informed decisions about their actions. It is wrong to deny them the complete information.

 

[Moonbeam]

I see nothing wrong with the notion that sexually transmitted diseases would end with moral sexuality, but it is not enough and moral people who insist that only morality should be used to fight STDs are immoral because they use morality to condemn others.

 

[Starbuck1975]

According to the Canton Health Department, statistics through July 2005 showed that 104 of the 586 babies born to Canton residents in Aultman Hospital and Mercy Medical Center had mothers between the ages of 11 and 19.

I agree that abstinence only programs are not particularly practical in today's society, as teenagers always have and will continue to experiment with sex...and it is far better they know how to protect themselves when doing so.

However, what is equally disturbing is that 11 year old girls are getting pregnant. Before we start passing the blame to Bush, as the OP suggests, where are these kid's parents?

The first line of defense against teen pregnancy is good parenting.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: Before we start passing the blame to Bush, as the OP suggests, where are these kid's parents?

Probably pregnant when they were 11.

 

[rickn]

abstinence in itself doesn't work, unless you're to ugly to get laid.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: rickn
abstinence in itself doesn't work, unless you're to ugly to get laid.

There's a difference between abstinence by choice and abstinence by nature

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: rickn
abstinence in itself doesn't work, unless you're to ugly to get laid.

There's a difference between abstinence by choice and abstinence by nature

but abstinence by choice is denying innate desires within all of us. by design we're meant to have sex, and sometimes procreate. Abstinence is just some false boundary we have placed on ourselves.

 

[Jeff7]

Health textbooks, older than some students, will be replaced.

Impressive. Complete with 1950's style B&W pictures of the "perfect wife" at home in the kitchen with a dress on? Maybe they'll push the twin beds together tonight!

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I guess they will just deal with the loss of funding from the Bush "Abstinence Only" program.

Which will be far, far more than offset by the savings in both health care and welfare costs that would no longer be needed.

 

[rickn]

getting teenagers to abstains from sexual contact is as effective as taking the pizza off the lunch menu. they leave campus and go to pizza hut.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Unfortunately, evidence rarely changes the beliefs of ideologues. They KNOW they are right so no matter what happens; they will stay the course.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with abstinence-FIRST sex ed. In fact, any good program always extols the virtues of abstinence. It's a shame children have to bear the burden of the idiocy of adults.

 

[shira]

How many advocates of abstinence-only programs do you think practiced abstinence themselves?

Think George W. Bush was a virgin until marriage? Think Dick Cheney was?

Like so many hypocrites, religious fanatics think the rules start with the current generation.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Unfortunately, evidence rarely changes the beliefs of ideologues. They KNOW they are right so no matter what happens; they will stay the course.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with abstinence-FIRST sex ed. In fact, any good program always extols the virtues of abstinence. It's a shame children have to bear the burden of the idiocy of adults.

there is nothing wrong with abstinence, as long as everyone is told it's unnatural and that when you wake up with morning wood and wet sheets its just all part of nature. the problem is that some people think it's so easy to deny those urges, whom they themselves didn't. that's why teenagers should be given a wide spectrum of education. hell, most adults would benefit from them too.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: rickn
getting teenagers to abstains from sexual contact is as effective as taking the pizza off the lunch menu. they leave campus and go to pizza hut.

Want teens to abstain? Free handouts in health class: fleshlights and jackrabbits.
I guarantee you that teenage pregnancy will decline.
Plus everyone will probably just be in better moods in general.

 

[Accipiter22]

I remember somethingawful talked about this once and said something like "abstinence education is something that even the people who teach it know is stupid. At most all it does is deflect the dong from the girl's vagina and send it into her mouth or ass"