above normal temps with tuniq tower?

[xolisaxo]

hi again guys,

i put everything together and it's all working fine, thought i'd try my hand at oc'ing this baby but am a lil concerned about temps... hmm my e6600 is idling at around 43°C, running stock, with the tuniq tower... while running with the stock cooler, i was getting temps around 41-ish°C... what gives? from all the raving about the tuniq tower, i thought i might be in for a treat of anywhere up to a 10°C drop, but am getting slightly higher temps now... i'm using TAT, and coretemp gives similar readings...

i used AS5, but was wondering if it's the way i positioned it? , my heatpipes are running up and down (like this: ||| ) , and its seated on its side (case upright)

any ideas? any help would be greatly appreciated

lisa xoxo :lips:

 

[de8212]

I'm kinda in the same boat. My e6400 idles at around 41C with the tuniq. I would say I have decent airflow in my case (thermaltake tsunami). I went ahead and overclocked mine and it is only 45/47 according to ITAT. Not too bad but I would have thought the tuniq would have performed better.

 

[Qi]

Four things can be wrong:

1.) Your Tuniq Tower is flawed (heatpipes not filled with fluid for example).
2.) Thermal paste not correctly applied (see this PDF for the Core 2 Duo's).
3.) The Tuniq Tower fan is undervolted (make sure it's at 12 volt).
4.) Improperly fastened bolts (it has a heatspreader, but still be careful not to destroy your processor).

The Tuniq Tower is better than the stock cooling solution, so your temperatures should be lower.

 

[shamgar03]

Honestly though, your processor will be ok all the way up to 70 degrees so if you can you should look for a cause, but don't be concerned if you can't. This isn't a life and death issue for your processor.

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: Qi
Four things can be wrong:

1.) Your Tuniq Tower is flawed (heatpipes not filled with fluid for example).
2.) Thermal paste not correctly applied (see this PDF for the Core 2 Duo's).
3.) The Tuniq Tower fan is undervolted (make sure it's at 12 volt).
4.) Improperly fastened bolts (it has a heatspreader, but still be careful not to destroy your processor).

The Tuniq Tower is better than the stock cooling solution, so your temperatures should be lower.

Good info. I didn't realize the recommended method on applying AS% was a "line" down the middle. Thanks.

It will be a pain to unmount this and clean it but I will do that one dayto see if it helps.
BTW how would i know if the fan is undervolted?? It just plugs into the mobo and i haven't seen anywhere in the BIOS to change the speed??

 

[Qi]

If your fan is plugged directly into the motherboard it's at 12 volt. If it's plugged into a fanbus controller or if it's attached to an adaptor or something similar it might be undervolted. To be absolutely sure your fan runs ok you can always check the BIOS for your fan RPM. If you have a 1200RPM fan, and the BIOS shows that it runs at or around 1200RPM everything is ok.

Chances are the fan is not the problem by the way, I am merely suggesting some possibly causes. Personally, I think the thermal paste is the problem. Like you said, not many people know that the Core 2 Duo requires a thin line of paste in the middle.

 

[Jeeebus]

that sounds too hot for the tuniq tower. My 6400 idles at around 29/30 @ stock and almost minimal fan speed.

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
that sounds too hot for the tuniq tower. My 6400 idles at around 29/30 @ stock and almost minimal fan speed.

Did you apply AS5 as per instructions posted by Qi???

 

[Jeeebus]

Originally posted by: de8212

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
that sounds too hot for the tuniq tower. My 6400 idles at around 29/30 @ stock and almost minimal fan speed.

Did you apply AS5 as per instructions posted by Qi???

I used the included thermal paste that came with the tuniq tower, but I applied it as per the as5 instructions, with the thin line down the middle.

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
that sounds too hot for the tuniq tower. My 6400 idles at around 29/30 @ stock and almost minimal fan speed.

Do you manually adjust the fan speed or is it donbe through BIOS/software?

 

[khurios2000]

you might have a concave or convex CPU IHS.
no good contact on heatsink thats why

 

[de8212]

Well, I went ahead and pulled the mobo out and unmounted teh tuniq, cleaned everything up and remounted using the AS5 technique mentioned earlier except I used the tunoq paste just to see if there was a difference.

Too early for me to be certain but temps are exactly the same or maybe one or two degrees higher. I do not feel like stripping it all back down again but I'll try and get to it over the weekend and switch back to AS5.

It doesn't seem that bad considering I have a ~2.1GHz processor runnign at 3.2GHz and it idles @43 and is ~63 when I put the wrkload level to 100% in intels analysis tool.

 

[Jumpem]

I have a Tuniq Tower and e6600 at 3.6GHz.

Idles temps are ~28C, and full load is ~49C.

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
I have a Tuniq Tower and e6600 at 3.6GHz.

Idles temps are ~28C, and full load is ~49C.

Did yoiu use AS5 or the supplied paste by thermatake? Also did you just put a thin line down the center???

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: de8212
Did yoiu use AS5 or the supplied paste by thermatake? Also did you just put a thin line down the center???

I used AS5, and did the line down the center.

 

[tcG]

Air temperatures have everything to do with your ambient temperatures...

And just for reference, when I moved my PC from a case I thought had good airflow (PC65B) to a naked motherboard tray on desk, my temps decreased 16C.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: khurios2000
you might have a concave or convex CPU IHS.
no good contact on heatsink thats why

QFT

Concave, probably...

*edit*

Oops! OPER has 18 posts...

OPER=Original Poster
QFT=Quoted For Truth
CPU=Intel E6600
IHS=Integrated Heat Spreader, i.e. the metal cover on your CPU, e.g. the thing with the writing on it.

Your CPU probably isn't flat. It's probably got a 'dip' in the middle, where the lid is soldered to the chip (the hottest part of the CPU), and NOT making full contact with your Tuniq Tower 120. It's just being cooled on the edges of the CPU.

Gosh! Wasn't that a great explanation? Thank me!

BTW, does the Tuniq Tower 120 work?!?! You be the judge...

Current Temps

 

[JEDIYoda]

each and every system has a different set of variables involved in the cooling process.

Shpould the Tuniq work for your computer YES...but...

Is it also possibly that it may not work as well as expected...YES.....

You be the judge....don`t base what your expecting on other peoples readings!

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You be the judge....don`t base what your expecting on other peoples readings!

Heh! Including yours?

Look, Intel sold 'us' a lot of junk for years! The C2D chips were supposed to be different, and on paper they are, but in reality Intel is still pumping out a lot of junk processors with concave lids.

The forums, on various sites, are rife with these overheating C2D stories -- same as hers. It has nothing to do with imaginary variables, or her Tuniq Tower 120. The story is always the same...

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You be the judge....don`t base what your expecting on other peoples readings!

Heh! Including yours?

Look, Intel sold 'us' a lot of junk for years! The C2D chips were supposed to be different, and on paper they are, but in reality Intel is still pumping out a lot of junk processors with concave lids.

The forums, on various sites, are rife with these overheating C2D stories -- same as hers. It has nothing to do with imaginary variables, or her Tuniq Tower 120. The story is always the same...

so what your saying is...that its never the fault of the heatsink......hmmmm.......

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
so what your saying is...that its never the fault of the heatsink......hmmmm.......

Considering the situation...

Originally posted by: xolisaxo
hmm my e6600 is idling at around 43°C, running stock, with the tuniq tower... while running with the stock cooler, i was getting temps around 41-ish°C... what gives?

What is the common variable?