About to lose a LOT of my privacy at home

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MrPickins

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If they've started building, they should have permits and site plans ready that you can look at to assess the impact the development will have on your property.
If they don't, you may be able to get work halted.

In either case, you don't have much room to complain, and getting defensive when people disagree with your rant is silly. This is a discussion forum, not a blog.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
If they've started building, they should have permits and site plans ready that you can look at to assess the impact the development will have on your property.
If they don't, you may be able to get work halted.

In either case, you don't have much room to complain, and getting defensive when people disagree with your rant is silly. This is a discussion forum, not a blog.

I have not had a single problem with a person that disagreed. I have had a problem with people that put words in my mouth and acted like a jerk in the typical ATOT fashion.
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: Mill
You're greedy, you want your privacy at the expense of a company's profit and obligation to its shareholders, their doing their job.

Don't shove a dildo in your butt because things don't go your way.

I do? Where did I say I was entitled to anything or wanted the developer in inoccur any expense on my behalf?

Finally, shareholders? GFTO out of my thread if you are that stupid. I doubt this man with his 6 man crew has any shareholders. I see you have no concept of life outside a large city.

Pfft guy you're laughable, every company has shareholders, even if it's just one.

You seem to think you're entitled to your privacy, thats where you come off as wanting to incur expense. The expense is not wanting these people to sell the property they paid for.


Every company has stakeholders, only corporations have shareholders
 

KK

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

Aww sh1t, here we go again..:laugh:
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: montanafan
Better keep tabs on things when they start filling in the lot before they build. If they build it up higher than the surrounding property without the proper drainage, you could have problems with water draining onto your property when it rains.

Exactly. I feel really sorry for the people below them, because that's where the water has always drained, and I can only imagine it will be worse once they get rid of the slope and land there that absorbed some of it.

As for me, I really hope they do not build it up higher than my driveway. There is a nice sharp 15 ft drop like I was talking about, and my property line goes right to the top of it. It they filled it up to make it level it would drain into my driveway if it was higher than the curb that surrounded my driveway.

IIRC, you're legally responsible for where the water drains off your property.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

Aww sh1t, here we go again..:laugh:

Originally posted by: Mill
Dave, is everything always someone else's fault. You play the victim more than any grown man I know.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

It is my fault. I think I've said about 95 times that I could have bought the lot 3 years ago. Troll elsewhere, Dave.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

Aww sh1t, here we go again..:laugh:

Originally posted by: Mill
Dave, is everything always someone else's fault. You play the victim more than any grown man I know.

Who am I blaming here? Where have I said the developer is wrong or did me wrong?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

Aww sh1t, here we go again..:laugh:

Originally posted by: Mill
Dave, is everything always someone else's fault. You play the victim more than any grown man I know.

Who am I blaming here? Where have I said the developer is wrong or did me wrong?

Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

It is my fault.

I think I've said about 95 times that I could have bought the lot 3 years ago.

Troll elsewhere, Dave.

My my , look who's all defensive now.

I didn't read the whole thread. You didn't update the original post or make cliffs.

Not so fun when shoe is on other foot eh?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

Aww sh1t, here we go again..:laugh:

Originally posted by: Mill
Dave, is everything always someone else's fault. You play the victim more than any grown man I know.

Who am I blaming here? Where have I said the developer is wrong or did me wrong?

Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill

A developer comes out here and just CLEAR CUTS the entire lot. Not a tree left on it.

Progress baby, progress :thumbsup:

So who's fault is this situation?

You could have bought that lot.

It is my fault.

I think I've said about 95 times that I could have bought the lot 3 years ago.

Troll elsewhere, Dave.

My my , look who's all defensive now.

I didn't read the whole thread. You didn't update the original post or make cliffs.

Not so fun when shoe is on other foot eh?

Uhh, the shoe is not on the other foot. Just because you are delusional and think that I was blaming someone here doesn't make it so. Furthermore, you've a long history of lashing out and blaming anyone who causes you even the slightest bit of discomfort. I never once said I had any ill-regard for the developer or wanted to see his plans fail. I just stated that it was going to be annoying and that it was sucky. Not only did you not read the whole thread -- it is apparent your reading skills were no sufficient to garner even the barest-bones understanding of the OP.

I have never once denied that I could have bought the lot. I've never said the developer was a jerk or doing me wrong. I just said that I was concerned about some things and would be monitoring. I feel bad that you are such a silly ass person. Seriously.
 

compman25

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
If you didn't want your view to change you should have bought the lot, you can't expect for the developer to not want to sell that land.. it is a property after all.

Your a spoiled little douche that has zero real world experience and lives at his parent's home. Let the adults talk, and you go back to being a vindictive brat toward your mother.

If you read the OP I said I knew I could have bought it. You haven't seen the lot, so you have no idea how bad this is going to look. Furthermore, it would be pure extortion to pay 20k when the lot probably sold for half that. Additionally, it would not have raised my property value a bit, but it would have raised my homeowner's (empty lot is not always considered fun by your insurance company) to some degree. Look, you are not here, and you are not an adult dealing with real world situations and real world privacy issues.

I can seperate the homeowners from the kids in this thread. I'm not whining about anything. I'm just disappointed. I had no idea they were ever going to build on it. If he had came to me 2 weeks ago and said something I might have given him 14 or 15k. I know he sold it for less than 10k just to get some sucker to build. Now I'm going to have water flowing into my yard, an ugly view, and tighter living quarters.

When you spend a lot of money on a house you CARE. This is not your parent's house, bud. I had planned to be here for many years and raise a family.

How are you going to have tighter living quarters? Did your lot shrink? If not, were you using his lot?

I guess you don't understand the concept of how being outside in fresh air with trees makes you feel less "urban" and closed in than being trapped by houses on each side.

Actually I do, I own a home in Sunriver OR, a townhouse in Pleasant Grove UT and my main house here in Spokane WA. I also understand private property rights. And I understand if I don't own the land, it's not mine and I have no right to any kind of expectations with regards to how that land is used, whether it is built on or left natural. You should have made a counter offer on that land, you didn't and now you will suffer. But it's your fault.

Where did I say anything about having expectations? I've always known it could be built on if it became economical for the developer. I just wasn't sure it would happen anytime soon. Furthermore, private property rights? GTFO out of my thread with that trash. I haven't said anything about violating his rights -- I've only said said I will make sure mine are not violated or infringed upon. I'm a big fan of private property rights. I'm not a fan of asshole developers who screw up drainage problems and refuse to fix them (it took him almost a year to fix the retaining wall at my neighbor's house after he moved a bunch of dirt to another lot), or don't follow the rules.

BTW, nice thinly-veiled brag. Like anyone gives a sh1t what you own. Go make a brag thread for your e-penis if you want to get your jollies off. I haven't said anything about infringing on anyone's rights or that I didn't have a chance to buy the proprety. I did. Read the OP.

You care, you're telling people not to respond if they aren't home owners, I just stated what I own. You are the one complaining, look at your thread title. Did I say anything to specify where I stand on the private property rights in regards to you? NO. Did I say they have a right to ruin your property? NO. If you don't want people thinking you're a whiny little jerk don't come in here and start a thread complaining and then say it isn't a complaint.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill

Where did I say anything about having expectations? I've always known it could be built on if it became economical for the developer. I just wasn't sure it would happen anytime soon. Furthermore, private property rights? GTFO out of my thread with that trash. I haven't said anything about violating his rights -- I've only said said I will make sure mine are not violated or infringed upon. I'm a big fan of private property rights. I'm not a fan of asshole developers who screw up drainage problems and refuse to fix them (it took him almost a year to fix the retaining wall at my neighbor's house after he moved a bunch of dirt to another lot), or don't follow the rules.

BTW, nice thinly-veiled brag. Like anyone gives a sh1t what you own. Go make a brag thread for your e-penis if you want to get your jollies off. I haven't said anything about infringing on anyone's rights or that I didn't have a chance to buy the proprety. I did. Read the OP.

You care, you're telling people not to respond if they aren't home owners, I just stated what I own. You are the one complaining, look at your thread title. Did I say anything to specify where I stand on the private property rights in regards to you? NO. Did I say they have a right to ruin your property? NO. If you don't want people thinking you're a whiny little jerk don't come in here and start a thread complaining and then say it isn't a complaint.

:laugh:
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill

Where did I say anything about having expectations? I've always known it could be built on if it became economical for the developer. I just wasn't sure it would happen anytime soon. Furthermore, private property rights? GTFO out of my thread with that trash. I haven't said anything about violating his rights -- I've only said said I will make sure mine are not violated or infringed upon. I'm a big fan of private property rights. I'm not a fan of asshole developers who screw up drainage problems and refuse to fix them (it took him almost a year to fix the retaining wall at my neighbor's house after he moved a bunch of dirt to another lot), or don't follow the rules.

BTW, nice thinly-veiled brag. Like anyone gives a sh1t what you own. Go make a brag thread for your e-penis if you want to get your jollies off. I haven't said anything about infringing on anyone's rights or that I didn't have a chance to buy the proprety. I did. Read the OP.

You care, you're telling people not to respond if they aren't home owners, I just stated what I own. You are the one complaining, look at your thread title. Did I say anything to specify where I stand on the private property rights in regards to you? NO. Did I say they have a right to ruin your property? NO. If you don't want people thinking you're a whiny little jerk don't come in here and start a thread complaining and then say it isn't a complaint.

:laugh:
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
If you didn't want your view to change you should have bought the lot, you can't expect for the developer to not want to sell that land.. it is a property after all.

Your a spoiled little douche that has zero real world experience and lives at his parent's home. Let the adults talk, and you go back to being a vindictive brat toward your mother.

If you read the OP I said I knew I could have bought it. You haven't seen the lot, so you have no idea how bad this is going to look. Furthermore, it would be pure extortion to pay 20k when the lot probably sold for half that. Additionally, it would not have raised my property value a bit, but it would have raised my homeowner's (empty lot is not always considered fun by your insurance company) to some degree. Look, you are not here, and you are not an adult dealing with real world situations and real world privacy issues.

I can seperate the homeowners from the kids in this thread. I'm not whining about anything. I'm just disappointed. I had no idea they were ever going to build on it. If he had came to me 2 weeks ago and said something I might have given him 14 or 15k. I know he sold it for less than 10k just to get some sucker to build. Now I'm going to have water flowing into my yard, an ugly view, and tighter living quarters.

When you spend a lot of money on a house you CARE. This is not your parent's house, bud. I had planned to be here for many years and raise a family.

How are you going to have tighter living quarters? Did your lot shrink? If not, were you using his lot?

I guess you don't understand the concept of how being outside in fresh air with trees makes you feel less "urban" and closed in than being trapped by houses on each side.

Actually I do, I own a home in Sunriver OR, a townhouse in Pleasant Grove UT and my main house here in Spokane WA. I also understand private property rights. And I understand if I don't own the land, it's not mine and I have no right to any kind of expectations with regards to how that land is used, whether it is built on or left natural. You should have made a counter offer on that land, you didn't and now you will suffer. But it's your fault.

Where did I say anything about having expectations? I've always known it could be built on if it became economical for the developer. I just wasn't sure it would happen anytime soon. Furthermore, private property rights? GTFO out of my thread with that trash. I haven't said anything about violating his rights -- I've only said said I will make sure mine are not violated or infringed upon. I'm a big fan of private property rights. I'm not a fan of asshole developers who screw up drainage problems and refuse to fix them (it took him almost a year to fix the retaining wall at my neighbor's house after he moved a bunch of dirt to another lot), or don't follow the rules.

BTW, nice thinly-veiled brag. Like anyone gives a sh1t what you own. Go make a brag thread for your e-penis if you want to get your jollies off. I haven't said anything about infringing on anyone's rights or that I didn't have a chance to buy the proprety. I did. Read the OP.

You care, you're telling people not to respond if they aren't home owners, I just stated what I own. You are the one complaining, look at your thread title. Did I say anything to specify where I stand on the private property rights in regards to you? NO. Did I say they have a right to ruin your property? NO. If you don't want people thinking you're a whiny little jerk don't come in here and start a thread complaining and then say it isn't a complaint.

You didn't address anything in my post. You can resubmit for partial credit if you like.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: Mill

Where did I say anything about having expectations? I've always known it could be built on if it became economical for the developer. I just wasn't sure it would happen anytime soon. Furthermore, private property rights? GTFO out of my thread with that trash. I haven't said anything about violating his rights -- I've only said said I will make sure mine are not violated or infringed upon. I'm a big fan of private property rights. I'm not a fan of asshole developers who screw up drainage problems and refuse to fix them (it took him almost a year to fix the retaining wall at my neighbor's house after he moved a bunch of dirt to another lot), or don't follow the rules.

BTW, nice thinly-veiled brag. Like anyone gives a sh1t what you own. Go make a brag thread for your e-penis if you want to get your jollies off. I haven't said anything about infringing on anyone's rights or that I didn't have a chance to buy the proprety. I did. Read the OP.

You care, you're telling people not to respond if they aren't home owners, I just stated what I own. You are the one complaining, look at your thread title. Did I say anything to specify where I stand on the private property rights in regards to you? NO. Did I say they have a right to ruin your property? NO. If you don't want people thinking you're a whiny little jerk don't come in here and start a thread complaining and then say it isn't a complaint.

:laugh:

Go get arrested again or go bankrupt for the third time, Dave. Or, find me some of that 6 dollar gas you claim exists.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Go get arrested again or go bankrupt for the third time, Dave. Or, find me some of that 6 dollar gas you claim exists.

Third time? That's news to me.

It's $5 gas and you'll find it in California.

You been bankrupt 2 times?

And where is this 5 dollar gas?
 

mrjminer

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Go get arrested again or go bankrupt for the third time, Dave. Or, find me some of that 6 dollar gas you claim exists.

Third time? That's news to me.

It's $5 gas and you'll find it in California.

You been bankrupt 2 times?

And where is this 5 dollar gas?

Gas station
 

KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mrjminer
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Go get arrested again or go bankrupt for the third time, Dave. Or, find me some of that 6 dollar gas you claim exists.

Third time? That's news to me.

It's $5 gas and you'll find it in California.

You been bankrupt 2 times?

And where is this 5 dollar gas?

Gas station


Where in CA? On californiagasprices the highest is 3.99.
 

mrjminer

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Originally posted by: KK
Where in CA? On californiagasprices the highest is 3.99.

No idea, I'm in IL. I was just presuming that it was at a gas station. I went ahead and checked out the average gas price chart on the webpage you mentioned and it looks like the highest "average" for CA gas prices in the last 4 years was 3.34 back in May 2006. If any gas prices were $5, that means that there would be about a $2.50 discrepency between the highest and lowest gas prices, on average.

So, if there was ever a $5 gas price, it would probably be in a podunk station in the middle of nowhere that can charges that much because the only people stopping for gas there wouldn't have any other choice.
 

wkabel23

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Constantly responding to the 'idiots' in this thread must really improve your real life. Don't call people out on post count and then defend yourself like a little girl (maybe teenager on AOL is more appropriate) in this thread. Who cares what Ryanwhatever says? It's obvious he doesn't have any real world experience...why bother with someone like that? Drop the issue, respond to reasonable posts. I can't even fathom how mature you must be to keep bickering with Ryanwhatever. Nothing like a little feud on the internet to spice up my life!

And the property itself wasn't worth 20k, but how much is your "privacy" ( :roll: ) worth?

Summary of this thread: wah my current living situation is being messed up by a developer. since i'm really angry i'm going to attack everyone who says, 'you should've bought the property,' because i know they're right. oh and being an asshole on the internet makes me feel better.