About the dude who murdered 2 and committed suicide in Aliso Viejo, I knew him...

Mik3y

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William Freund. He went to my high school and graduated my year. High school is called Aliso Niguel High, and he was quite a quiet dude. He was picked on all the time too. The girl he murdered also went to the high school and graduated on '03. I never knew him that well, but he was kinda odd. Never thought he would resort to violence. The neighborhood he lived in is called wood canyon, which is just a couple miles from where i live in Laguna Niguel. My best friend lived right near him, and after finding out, she was pretty freaked out. If u guys need a pic of him, I'll scan the yearbook.
 

Acanthus

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Not to be heartless, but do you happen to know if he had a reason to murder the girl up the road? Was she a target or just a very unlucky bystander?

:( i still find this whole situation odd.
 

ed21x

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i graduated class of '01 from Aliso, and I believe that was also the year of the girl he murdered, seeing as how we are both 22. Didn't really know the girl personally, but remembered the way she looked cuz she was pretty distinctive. Oh, I'm from Laguna Niguel as well, Rancho Niguel, to be speciic (though I'm currently in the Bay Area for college).

~Ed
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: ed21x
i graduated class of '01 from Aliso, and I believe that was also the year of the girl he murdered, seeing as how we are both 22. Didn't really know the girl personally, but remembered the way she looked cuz she was pretty distinctive. Oh, I'm from Laguna Niguel as well, Rancho Niguel, to be speciic (though I'm currently in the Bay Area for college).

~Ed

whoa, are u serious? well, i'm 19, graduated in '04, and live off moulton and aliso creek across from san joaqin hills. street's called Mando. you dont happen to know a carlo mantovani do ya?
 

ed21x

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mmm... the name doesn't sound familiar, but then again, Rancho Niguel is like half of the city :p i remember always making a left onto Moulton from Aliso Creek just to get home from school everyday. Ahh... those were good times~ although the school was literally packed full of superficial ditz, jocks, and annoying stuck up asians. i was one of those annoying stuck up asians :evil:
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: ed21x
mmm... the name doesn't sound familiar, but then again, Rancho Niguel is like half of the city :p i remember always making a left onto Moulton from Aliso Creek just to get home from school everyday. Ahh... those were good times~ although the school was literally packed full of superficial ditz, jocks, and annoying stuck up asians. i was one of those annoying stuck up asians :evil:

I was one of those jocks. Varsity Volleyball, w00t w00t.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: sygyzy
No.

go crap somehwere else :roll:

Crap somewhere else? You two are discussing this case as if you are somehow involved. Your only involvement is you went to the same school and live in the same town as the killer. Whooppee. What else? Did you have lunch once with him too, along with the other 1500 kids at the school? Talk about attention whoring.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: sygyzy
No.

go crap somehwere else :roll:

Crap somewhere else? You two are discussing this case as if you are somehow involved. Your only involvement is you went to the same school and live in the same town as the killer. Whooppee. What else? Did you have lunch once with him too, along with the other 1500 kids at the school? Talk about attention whoring.

you're a retard. this isnt about attention whoring, idiot. sorry people in this forum cant discuss a topic or story if they have ANY slight relation to the subject in it. and why the hell are you such a dick? quit bashing sh!t and get on with your life. hell, go pay a hooker and get laid. you obviously need it, asshole.

Keep up the nasty name calling bucko. You're headin for a trainwreck. This thread is turning into a flame war.

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Eli

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: sygyzy
No.

go crap somehwere else :roll:

Crap somewhere else? You two are discussing this case as if you are somehow involved. Your only involvement is you went to the same school and live in the same town as the killer. Whooppee. What else? Did you have lunch once with him too, along with the other 1500 kids at the school? Talk about attention whoring.

you're a retard. this isnt about attention whoring, idiot. sorry people in this forum cant discuss a topic or story if they have ANY slight relation to the subject in it. and why the hell are you such a dick? quit bashing sh!t and get on with your life. hell, go pay a hooker and get laid. you obviously need it, asshole.
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Originally posted by: ed21x
i graduated class of '01 from Aliso, and I believe that was also the year of the girl he murdered, seeing as how we are both 22. Didn't really know the girl personally, but remembered the way she looked cuz she was pretty distinctive. Oh, I'm from Laguna Niguel as well, Rancho Niguel, to be speciic (though I'm currently in the Bay Area for college).

~Ed


Mmmm. It always means so much when you can relate to these stories =/. Like when I read the Daily Cal the other day and saw the news about Christine Dao, I saw that our pledge class prez was good friends with her and that she was also the pledge captain for Sigma Phi Omega, and so I knew a few of her pledge sisters...
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: sygyzy
No.

go crap somehwere else :roll:

Crap somewhere else? You two are discussing this case as if you are somehow involved. Your only involvement is you went to the same school and live in the same town as the killer. Whooppee. What else? Did you have lunch once with him too, along with the other 1500 kids at the school? Talk about attention whoring.

you're a retard. this isnt about attention whoring, idiot. sorry people in this forum cant discuss a topic or story if they have ANY slight relation to the subject in it. and why the hell are you such a dick? quit bashing sh!t and get on with your life. hell, go pay a hooker and get laid. you obviously need it, asshole.
pwn3d.

You need to revist the definition of pwn3d if you think that was it. Your discussion has absolutely nothing to do with the case. You have no additional news or insight to the story. Look at what this discussion is about. You reminiscing about the "good ol days" which were , oh let me see, ~3 years ago? Come back when you have a valid argument or a POINT. Though I doubt your debating (note the word, I didn't say cursing) skills are up to snuff.
 

Kadarin

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It's interesting how the general characterization of this guy is "he was a quiet guy" or "he was always a little odd" or "he was picked on a lot"..
 

bucwylde23

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: sygyzy
No.

go crap somehwere else :roll:

Crap somewhere else? You two are discussing this case as if you are somehow involved. Your only involvement is you went to the same school and live in the same town as the killer. Whooppee. What else? Did you have lunch once with him too, along with the other 1500 kids at the school? Talk about attention whoring.

you're a retard. this isnt about attention whoring, idiot. sorry people in this forum cant discuss a topic or story if they have ANY slight relation to the subject in it. and why the hell are you such a dick? quit bashing sh!t and get on with your life. hell, go pay a hooker and get laid. you obviously need it, asshole.
pwn3d.

You need to revist the definition of pwn3d if you think that was it. Your discussion has absolutely nothing to do with the case. You have no additional news or insight to the story. Look at what this discussion is about. You reminiscing about the "good ol days" which were , oh let me see, ~3 years ago? Come back when you have a valid argument or a POINT. Though I doubt your debating (note the word, I didn't say cursing) skills are up to snuff.



Dude, please get a life. Seriously.
 

MaxDepth

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He was a quiet person, kinda kept to himself.
Yeah, he was kinda weird.
No, I never knew he'd be the one to do something like this.


Isn't this always the way it happens? They always interview someone who sorta knew of the perp and says those exact same words.


From the web link:
Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino said investigators did not know what sparked the shooting or why Freund targeted the Smiths. "We're looking into his mental health at the time of the shooting," he said.
Well, I'd say it's too late, bub. Most of his mental health is now painting the bedroom wall at his house. But yeah, I'd say that was a crazy thing to do.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's interesting how the general characterization of this guy is "he was a quiet guy" or "he was always a little odd" or "he was picked on a lot"..

is it really? i would think most people woulda guessed those things about him.

and sygyzy stfu. this is an off topic forum and he can discuss anything he wants in here, regardless of what subject it has to do with. if it isn't fit for off topic, it will be cleaned up by the mods.

again, stfu.