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ABIT Fatal1ty AA8XE i925XE LGA775 Vs. Asus P5AD2-E

RussianSensation

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I remember a thread not long ago where people criticized the Fatal1ty boards. I mean who would buy a board with some "geek's" name on it?

The Fatal1ty claims to be the fastest board there is. Of course this is incorrect given that FX55 with SLI setup will provide the fastest computer.

But what about overclocking?
3.73 Intel EE @ 4.80ghz (water cooled 343 FSB) - 8500mb sandra memory bandwidth

Not bad. The Asus board was able to achieve this as well. But both systems were unstable.

What about every day stable overclock?
AA8XE would run stably for 24 hours with constant 100% processor usage at 4.39 GHz and 1.60 volt.

What about the Asus board?
The P5AD2-E crashed at this same frequency after 30 to 45 minutes. The reason is obviously overheating. The heatsinks on the mosfets and on the Northbridge don?t have active, forced-air cooling. Above 4.00 GHz and full system load these heatsinks and the area around them are getting increasingly hot.

Solution for the Asus board?
"we directed the massive airstream of a 120 mm fan onto the heatsinks above the memory controller and the power supply. That bought us some additional MHz ? at least we thought so. Unfortunately it did not help in the long run. After a couple of hours crunching 2 F@H units at 4.20 GHz the PCB obviously became so hot that the 4-pin 12-volt socket located directly beside the mosfet heatsink started to melt."
OUCH

Read Full Review Here Note that the Abit board is actually cheaper than the Asus board.

What about Fatal1ty boards for AMD?
ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 NF4 @ 337 FSB

In comparison, DFI LANParty NF4 SLI-DR only reached 318 and MSI K8N Neo4/SLI 312 FSB HERE
Now sure, some overclockers out there reached better overclocks with the above boards. But this is a random sample given to regular review sites, so it should be somewhat indicative.

So is Fatal1ty brand name really just a fluff? 😕
 
Judging by what you linked, I am certain he is proud to have his name on the product line, not to mention better off financially :beer: As I have stated before, I see no reason why gamers shouldn't be allowed to make money off their name the way athletes and celebrities do. I don't care one iota if it is the best board or not either, it has nothing to do with his endorsement to me, if he can whup yo ass with it even@stock settings anyways 😉
 
The memory voltage can be selected manually: from 2.5 to 2.8V with 0.05V increment
On the NF4 board.
Worthless IMO, even my NF7 can go from 2.6 to 2.9v, and the DFI can hit 4.0v IIRC.
For memory and 1:1 overclocking, it's not that brilliant.
Anyone know how 64's respond to async overclocks?
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The memory voltage can be selected manually: from 2.5 to 2.8V with 0.05V increment
On the NF4 board.
Worthless IMO, even my NF7 can go from 2.6 to 2.9v, and the DFI can hit 4.0v IIRC.
For memory and 1:1 overclocking, it's not that brilliant.
Anyone know how 64's respond to async overclocks?

Anyone know how 64's respond to async overclocks?
Very well. clockspeed > * for A64. The mem controller comes along for the ride which helps account for why the A64 scales so well with clockspeed. The latest Anandtech review shows some relatively decent priced ram can do the job with enough voltage, which is nice but not the be all end all. 939 gets enough bandwidth stock so if you have to use a divider to push the CPU because you bought a gig of 3200 for $87 BFD IMO; you will still get excellent performance for rock bottom investment 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The memory voltage can be selected manually: from 2.5 to 2.8V with 0.05V increment
On the NF4 board.
Worthless IMO, even my NF7 can go from 2.6 to 2.9v, and the DFI can hit 4.0v IIRC.
For memory and 1:1 overclocking, it's not that brilliant.
Anyone know how 64's respond to async overclocks?

Here is a good review to address your concern for asynchronous A64 overclocking:
Study of Athlon 64 Overclocking Techniques
At the end they do a complete system overclock (ie. 1:1, increase HTT and so on)
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The memory voltage can be selected manually: from 2.5 to 2.8V with 0.05V increment
On the NF4 board.
Worthless IMO, even my NF7 can go from 2.6 to 2.9v, and the DFI can hit 4.0v IIRC.
For memory and 1:1 overclocking, it's not that brilliant.
Anyone know how 64's respond to async overclocks?

Here is a good review to address your concern for asynchronous A64 overclocking:
Study of Athlon 64 Overclocking Techniques
At the end they do a complete system overclock (ie. 1:1, increase HTT and so on)

Very nice article.
Basically, high "FSB" (as put in the OP) = good
1:1 RAM/FSB = good
But the DFI is probably still better, as you will mostly be limited by the overall speed of the CPU, and the 300+ offered on the DFI should be plenty, and you can probably keep the RAM closer to 1:1 on the DFI.
 
Check out extremeoverclocking.com forums, you'll find folks using both boards. There are also a good number of ASUS P5AD2-E Premium board users at ocforums. One guy has an Intel 650 oc'd to 5ghz using a vapo chill.

In regards to the passive cooling on the mosfets and northbridge overheating, I've replaced the stock aluminum northbridge sink w/ a solid copper thermalright, put mosfet heatsinks on and with my XP-120, the 120mm Delta Triple-Blade High Speed fan cools all of the heat sinks since they're all sitting underneath the XP-120.

I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
 
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