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Abit BX133 Sucks!!!!!

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obeseotron

Golden Member
Now I've heard rumors of instability in Abit's newer boards, but I can't recall using a less functional piece of computer hardware ever. It ALMOST got halfway into windows ONCE.

It couldn't reliably detect all the drives on the ata100 or built in interface, it crashed again and again until getting through the video bios became a problem. Now I get something like:


NVIDA GEFORCE 256 DDR BIO


and then a crash. I've reset everthing, and it won't work. The BIOS was nice the one time I got to see it, as it usually crashed upon entry. I know it isn't anything else casue it all works really nice in my borrowed bx master. I may have just gotten a lemon, but stay away from this mobo.
 
Take All the cards out, leave the Video, the Memory, and the CPU.
Try to boot from a bootable Floppy. If it does not boot it is the Mobo.
 
When something is mangled so much like the BX133 is...it can't go right! :Q

Ok...

BX- ATA/33
BX133- ATA/100

BX- NO RAID
BX133- ATA/100 RAID

BX- No 133MHz FSB support
BX133- 133MHz FSB support claiming stability

BX- Slot1
BX133- FCPGA (right?)

😛
 
I striped it down to cumine, geforce, and ram, no go. I put in a TNT1 and a celery 366 just for kicks... no go.

NFS4: I feel really stupid now, cause I agrued with your suggestion to get an i815. I still don't wanna, but I might have too... There is no reason a BX shouldn't be fine for me, but the lack of a good flipchip motherboard makes me think more and more about that Asus board.
 
Do you have more than one stick of memory installed?
Try leaving only one ... change you BIOS to a more conservative setting ... It is strange this mobo doesn't even POST appropriatelly. Can you try the same hardware in another mobo?!
 
The only problem with i815e mb's are the cost...

I was just at a computer show(ugh, again... ) and saw a few, but they were all over $150 each.



mike
 
1 stick generic pc133 128mb

It all works in my friend's bx master, and I can't do anything except reset the bios, cause the video bios can't even finish. I've always had good experiences with abit, bh6, bp6, bm6 anyway.
 
obeseotron

I have 2 of those boards coming in Monday. I will try a different combo than you and if I have same or similer problems,I wont hesitate to report it in this forum. I wonder if Anand has this in his lab yet?
 
I too had instability problems with the Abit BX133 FC-PGA with a P3 500E FCPGA at 700MHz and the Abit BE6-II Slot 1 with a P3 650 at 910MHz. This was after installing a Leadtek GeForce 2 GTS. It turns out that the Abit BX boards don't run too well with some GeForce boards. I was getting weird lines across the screen in D3D games.

Right now, I'm using an evaluation Soyo Slot1 BX133 ATA-100 RAID http://www.soyousa.com/sy6bap100.html. This board is awsome. Not one of the instability issues I've seen with the Abit boards have appeard on the new Soyo board. I actually got my 650 CPU to boot up at 1007MHz (155MHz bus) and run a few benchmarks. It crashed later on, but still runs the 650 at 939MHz perfectly. Before reviewing the Soyo board, I want to get a second Western Digital 27.3GB 7200 RPM drive and run my two drives in RAID 0 striping. I gotta wait until next pay day (not everything comes free) to get the drive though. It should be very interesting to test out.
 


<< I would say your biggest problem was getting an Abit board. Try an Asus and you'll be a lot happier. >>



Maybe, maybe not. I spent a good 14 hours getting a system with just these components in it working: Antec SX830, Asus P3B-F, Asus V3800U Deluxe, Quantum 13GB drive, Teac 1.44MB floppy. Fresh install of Windows 98SE. Every time I loaded the video drivers the system wouldn't boot Windows, a reboot of windows would get the error about these settings not supported on your hardware. I can't find the piece of scratch paper with the error written on it.

Hours 8-12 were spent with Asus tech support on the phone. The only thing good about there tech support is that they didn't hang up on me and I was able to keep them on the phone for that long, they kept trying to get me to call them back after I had done what they told me. I kept managing to keep them on the phone, that will only take a second (rip the machine open as quickly as possible). There tech support sucks royally. Please no one misquote me this time as saying Asus sucks. I am saying their support sucks! Read their forum on their website, most of the questions go unanswered. I have even seen posts with the subject ASUS SUPPORT SUCKS! in their own forum and stay there. I would provide a link to back up my claim but their forum seems to be down at the moment. I generally do not have problems with Asus equipment. However, when I do it is a pain in the butt.

Anyways, it turned out I had to turn off PnP OS in the BIOS and set AGP/PCI Slot 1 to IRQ 9. Everythings been working fine on the system since then. One would think an Asus motherboard would work with an Asus video card with default settings. Just wanted to point out that sometimes you just have to beat at computers to get them to work.
 
Another testament to Abit's lack of quality. You still may very be able to use a BX Board if you want, just buy a quality board like an ASUS or an MSI. Sure they are slot one, but you could use a slotket. If you want a socketed board, get something in the 815 chipset.
Have you looked at the MSI BX Master???
 
&quot;...I was just at a computer show(ugh, again... ) and saw a few, but they were all over $150 each...&quot;

Mikewarrior...

W/c Comp show was this? I was @ the one in Reseda today picking up another Celery II 566 and a Gorb. This booth that I bought the chip from was selling the SE-6 for $140...

This chip runs 952 @ 1.7 w/no problems. Even runs cooler than the one I had already. Just sold my BX6 Rev. 2 in the FS/FT forums and will be purchasing either the BH-6 or BF-6 tomorrow over there. W/c is better? Price is an issue. I only have enough to buy either one of these boards (but obviously, not both).
 
I've never been impressed by ABIT other than running my C300A@450/464 or my current PIII450@600,
I have the folowing complaints
Last ISA slot does not - and never has worked!
Would not run with more than 1 slot of RAM with the Celery @ 450

I have the following feeling:
My BH 6 is the real cause of my lock ups and BSOD's (even in non-overclocked status - I really want an ASUS P3B-F 🙂
 
gah! I've never had any problems with my BE6-II and can't complain. The only thing I've heard about this board is that it's very stable and good for OC'ing.....
 
Sorry to say Prodigy, but your experience represents absolutely nothing about how bad Abit is. As far as I've seen the unhappy Abit customers outnumbers the happy ones like you 10:1.
 
I haven't had too many problems with either Abit or Asus products.

The BX-6 Rev. 2 was a great board, bought it when it first came out. Oc'd my Celery 300A to 504 w/it.

The P3B-F is what I have now as the gaming rig with a Celery 566 oc'd 952 on board. No problems.

The BX-6 R2 also runs pretty well. Just tested a newly purchased Celery 566 and oc'd it to 952 w/no problems.

I've had compatibility problems with the Matrox G400 though on both setups. It doesn't seem to like AGP bus noise and is picky on PS (this is from my experiences). It also depended on the quality of RAM on board. After purchasing several line filters, better PSs, and name brand quality RAM, lockups are almost non-existent. There is the exception to the newly released game or OS or productivity app.
 
I think you would've been happier with the i815E boards. My CUSL2 rocks! Just popped the board in, dropped in a AGP card, and a PCI card into every slot 'cept the last, used that for the extra USB thingy, and loaded up windows, not one problem. Of course, thats before I checked on the CPU temp and found that it was at a frosty 5 deg C, a little hard to believe considering I am using just an Alpha and am not in the Antarctica as of now (Room temp is approx ~ 25 deg C). Funny, my P3B-F had the exact same problem. Stability-wise and in terms of overclockability, this board has no equal. Incredible. Worth every bit of the US$159 I paid for it.

Tommy
 
I have 5 friends and myself that love their be6r2's. Guess that means there are 60 folks out there that hate theirs...I have always liked the Abit boards. I had trouble with my be6, but that was never too bad. Asus works fine too, just kinda boring without the fsb's that the be6r2 has...
 
Read my sig, I'm writing to you from a BX Master, not mine though, loned to me by a friend while he's away in Germany. This board has some issues with slotkets, the reason I wanted an FCPGA board was to avoid all possible noise issues and get the maximum possible overclock. Since I don't really like the BX Master too much (takes forever to count RAM, detect all the drives), and I don't want to get an i815, they cost more and are slower, and have no features I want. Any suggestions? I want a lot of bus speeds. How are soyo's new BXs?
 
i815e is only a tad slower.. but i presume it's a bios tweak will fix that... only thing i don't like aobut it is the integrated sound card.. but you can disable it... there is nothign wrong with the i815e.. it's just that peoples expectations make it a disappointment

 
Rankor,

Sorry I didn't reply sooner... Yeah, it was the reseda show, i went with a friend to pick up a new vid card. I saw about 3 or 4 vendors with Asus CuSL2's.. I saw quite a few with the SE6.

I just cringed when I saw the first price for the Asus board. $155. eeek.. I then saw 152 and 150.95. I'm pretty sure I saw another, but I wasn't really interested.

Heck, the only reason I even saw them was cause I was curious to see if anybody had them. 🙂


Mike
 
If you want FC-PGA, the Asus CUBX is a great board. As for the BX Master slow booting, you can enable Quick POST to count RAM quicker, and disable the ATA66 controllers to make boot up faster.
 
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