AaronP's Political Ideology

[Static911]

LOL!!!!!!!

Can we get an "Amen" to that?

Static911

 

[chrisjor]

I keep seeing the word conservative bantered about, and I am not sure as to why it is being bastardized the way it is. The core of conservatism (at least American) is that government has little or no place in our lives (smaller gov.). It would seem to me that a "true conservative" would be a pro choice person. The government has no right to intercede in my personal life and dealings, so why should we allow the government to dictate how/what we can do with our own bodies (euthanasia/abortion/sex laws). I know this is oversimplified but I feel that it is my right to control my body. If I were a female, I do not see how it is the governments business to dictate to me if I could be a pot smoking lesbian prostitute who practices anal sex, has an abortion then becomes euthanized after I become terminally ill. Lets see, homosexuality..prostitution..sodomy laws..abortion..and euthanasia..all in one sentence Damn good!!!

Damn, I forgot the legalization of drugs!!!!!

I am a Libertarian, and I feel that the one thing that stands between me and true freedom is the U.S. Govt.

 

[Hammer]

I think silencers should be legalized too. Loud noises scare me.

 

[Amused]

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<< but it saddens me since it reminds me how much worst and dumb the rest of the country is. >>



Oh, the irony... >>



i thought so too when i read what i wrote.

i saw around me, growing up some of the sh1t that can happen when abortions are illegal and to see how against it some wack jobs are around here (bombing the clinics) it's just freaking nuts. but hey. it's all in the name of religion right? >>



I agree that abortion should not be outlawed. However, how can you NOT agree with most of the rest of his platform? They focus on INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS... something you should know full well are denied under communism.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

<<Guns ? with all the wack job's running around I think everybody should have the right to own them.>> by baffled2

Without getting into a GUN debate. I'm sure you living in Boston(tons of historical crap there) know that our founding fathers were these "wack jobs" you speak of. <--just FYI

 

[Amused]

<< You are aware that TNG is heavy on socialist (hell, downright communist) propaganda, right

ohh god yeah. I just like Troi's cleavage. >>



Hot damn, we agree again!

 

[Geekbabe]

<< <<Guns ? with all the wack job's running around I think everybody should have the right to own them.>> by baffled2

Without getting into a GUN debate. I'm sure you living in Boston(tons of historical crap there) know that our founding fathers were these "wack jobs" you speak of. <--just FYI >>




yeah... well we got some two legged animals living here now the likes of which the founding fathers probably had in mind when they wanted everyone to have the right to be armed to the teeth ..

 

[Amused]

<< I have to admit, I have been reading AmusedOnes political posts and have yet to disagree with him on anything material. I vote republican though because I beleive that conservative economic policy is more important than liberal social issues. Its sad that the libertarian party does not have a bigger following. >>



Cool. Great minds think alike, huh?

 

[TuffGirl]

<< Here's a conundrum:

Liberals constantly whine about how unfair it is that Conservatives are "rich". In the next breath, they opine that Conservatives are "stupid". Ergo, to achieve wealth, one must be stupid.

Russ, NCNE >>

A fair conclusion, but then how is that a conundrum? Isn't the fact that stupid people achieve wealth unfair (and ironic and sometimes infuriating)?

 

[Arschloch]

<< Here's a conundrum:

Liberals constantly whine about how unfair it is that Conservatives are "rich". In the next breath, they opine that Conservatives are "stupid". Ergo, to achieve wealth, one must be stupid.

Russ, NCNE >>


Meanwhile, conservatives pine about how the government should be smaller and less intrusive on people's lives. In their next breath, they're telling you that the government should enact laws to keep people from getting abortions.

Not that I'm liberal, because I'm not. Just saying that both sides aren't always totally pure in their beliefs, in that everything is compatible with everything else.

 

[Red Dawn]

<< yeah... well we got some two legged animals living here now the likes of which the founding fathers probably had in mind when they wanted everyone to have the right to be armed to the teeth >>

Hmm I thought Texmaster lived in Dallas.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

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<< <<Guns ? with all the wack job's running around I think everybody should have the right to own them.>> by baffled2

Without getting into a GUN debate. I'm sure you living in Boston(tons of historical crap there) know that our founding fathers were these "wack jobs" you speak of. <--just FYI >>




yeah... well we got some two legged animals living here now the likes of which the founding fathers probably had in mind when they wanted everyone to have the right to be armed to the teeth .. >>



YUP. I didn't make my post clear enough. I was merely speaking in jest; The Established gov't we were trying to break apart from labeled us "wack jobs". I was trying to point out that "wack jobs" doesn't help in the arguement because it is all in the eye of the beholder Now for me....I don't own guns but as I said during the election...."IF AL GORE gets elected then I am buying as many as I can...and if/when they try to take them, they'd better be willing to pry them from my COLD DEAD HANDS!"

 

[Geekbabe]

<< "To hate you would mean that I would give you more thought than you are worth"

yet you seem to reply to just about all my theads, you must have some special affinity for me. If you weren't such an asshole, I'd be touched. >>



Please, you ought to send Red flowers, I mean after all, the kind of humilation he heaps on you would cost a fortune if you had to pay a pro for it,he's had to have saved you heaps of cash at this point

 

[Texmaster]

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<< yeah... well we got some two legged animals living here now the likes of which the founding fathers probably had in mind when they wanted everyone to have the right to be armed to the teeth >>

Hmm I thought Texmaster lived in Dallas. >>




Sigh. You are still hovering around the 3rd to 4th grade catagory of rips Dawn.

Please try to at least break into middle school rips.

 

[Russ]

<< << Here's a conundrum:

Liberals constantly whine about how unfair it is that Conservatives are "rich". In the next breath, they opine that Conservatives are "stupid". Ergo, to achieve wealth, one must be stupid.

Russ, NCNE >>

A fair conclusion, but then how is that a conundrum? >>



conundrum: A paradoxical, insoluble, or difficult problem

Russ, NCNE

 

[Red Dawn]

<< Sigh. You are still hovering around the 3rd to 4th grade catagory of rips Dawn.

Please try to at least break into middle school rips.. >>



LOL.. I save those for people whom I deem worthy.

 

[Geekbabe]

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<< <<Guns ? with all the wack job's running around I think everybody should have the right to own them.>> by baffled2

Without getting into a GUN debate. I'm sure you living in Boston(tons of historical crap there) know that our founding fathers were these "wack jobs" you speak of. <--just FYI >>




yeah... well we got some two legged animals living here now the likes of which the founding fathers probably had in mind when they wanted everyone to have the right to be armed to the teeth .. >>



YUP. I didn't make my post clear enough. I was merely speaking in jest; The Established gov't we were trying to break apart from labeled us "wack jobs". I was trying to point out that "wack jobs" doesn't help in the arguement because it is all in the eye of the beholder Now for me....I don't own guns but as I said during the election...."IF AL GORE gets elected then I am buying as many as I can...and if/when they try to take them, they'd better be willing to pry them from my COLD DEAD HANDS!" >>






lol, this might come as a shock to you but I knew exactly the point you were trying to make by using my words to
describe the founding fathers as "wack jobs".Now, as to the argument and what words should be used, I prefer simple,
easy to understand terminolgy,lord knows though some of the combatants here obviously get a real charge out of blowing
out of huffing and puffing and blowing each other down with all all those great,big impressive words

 

[Texmaster]

<< LOL.. I save those for people whom I deem worthy. >>



Please. You are tapping into your good stuff. We all know it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

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lol, this might come as a shock to you but I knew exactly the point you were trying to make by using my words to
describe the founding fathers as "wack jobs".Now, as to the argument and what words should be used, I prefer simple,
easy to understand terminolgy,lord knows though some of the combatants here obviously get a real charge out of blowing
out of huffing and puffing and blowing each other down with all all those great,big impressive words >>



True True

 

[Optimus]

Interesting thoughts, AaronP.

I agree on some, not all.


Now, that said, I'm not sure why this thread is filled with the following:

1) Personal attacks on Aaron for his opinions.

2) "Free Speech is a right for everyone! Except you, Aaron - you have to shut up because I don't agree with you."

3) My opinions differ from AaronP's, therefore he is an idiot. Ipso Facto, QED.


Can't all the wankers and grumpy old men just.... get along?

(I'm kidding Red - hey I said I was kidding, damn it!)

 

[InfectedMushroom]

<<
I agree that abortion should not be outlawed. However, how can you NOT agree with most of the rest of his platform? They focus on INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS... something you should know full well are denied under communism. >>



well, sorry but i don't agree with all his other views at all.

Gun Control: i don't agree with everyone being allowed to own guns. but that's just my view.

Drugs, Tabaco and Alcohol: i view all drugs as being bad. alcohol being the worst of all in that it causes more death than all other illegal drugs combined. so why not legalize/decriminilazi all of them. why keep stuffing the prisons of potheads and/or other drug users.

Immigration: i'm one of them. i work. i pay my taxes and i am a very productive member of the society and i know that a lot of the major technical achievements in this country were fueled by immigrants who came here looking for a better life and were offered the opportunity to do that. so keep letting ppl in. the work visas seems like a good enough system right now since companies actually get to keep the ppl that they think are really good, generally paying them a little less than they would pay a native with the exact same experience/knowledge.

European relations: don't really know. if the EU gets their act together they might eventually get on par economically with the US. after all don't all super powers throught history eventually fall. it's bound to happen for the US too. who knows when or how, but it will be overtaken by something else. maybe not in our lifetime, but just like the ice ages/warming of the planet it will happen eventually.

 

[Amused]

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I agree that abortion should not be outlawed. However, how can you NOT agree with most of the rest of his platform? They focus on INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS... something you should know full well are denied under communism. >>



well, sorry but i don't agree with all his other views at all.

Gun Control: i don't agree with everyone being allowed to own guns. but that's just my view.

Drugs, Tabaco and Alcohol: i view all drugs as being bad. alcohol being the worst of all in that it causes more death than all other illegal drugs combined. so why not legalize/decriminilazi all of them. why keep stuffing the prisons of potheads and/or other drug users.

Immigration: i'm one of them. i work. i pay my taxes and i am a very productive member of the society and i know that a lot of the major technical achievements in this country were fueled by immigrants who came here looking for a better life and were offered the opportunity to do that. so keep letting ppl in. the work visas seems like a good enough system right now since companies actually get to keep the ppl that they think are really good, generally paying them a little less than they would pay a native with the exact same experience/knowledge.

European relations: don't really know. if the EU gets their act together they might eventually get on par economically with the US. after all don't all super powers throught history eventually fall. it's bound to happen for the US too. who knows when or how, but it will be overtaken by something else. maybe not in our lifetime, but just like the ice ages/warming of the planet it will happen eventually. >>



The US is where it is today because it prizes individual freedoms. Not because it limited them. Gun control never works, and it serves only to futher limit the rights of individual citizens. Communist countries disarm their people, not free countries (although that has changed dramatically in recent years... but not ONE has seen ANY decrease in crime after banning firearms).

He has no problem with emigrants. Only with coddling them and allowing them to not learn our language and American culture. No where did he say "stop immigration." Do you think people should be allowed to immigrate to the US, never learn the language, and sponge off welfare?

We've seen a LOT of petty belly aching from the EU countries lately. Why shouldn't our government look out for our best interests, instead of theirs? One of the worst was the EU bitching that we don't tax our businesses enough, and they can't compete. They had the audacity to call this "unfair trade practices."

As for drugs... at least he's bold enough to advocate an end to the ban on pot. We may not agree with the rest, but you've got to give him that much.

May I suggest you read any of Ayn Rand's works? She has an excellent case, as she had once lived under communism too. When she came to the US, she was completely shocked at how willing so many of us were willing to throw our freedoms away in the name of safety, or "fairness."

 

[SpongeBob]

I have pretty much the opposite philosophy:

1. Gun Control - All guns but hunting rifles should be banned. There should be better background checks and longer waiting periods on hunting rifles. Gun related crimes should require a mandatory sentence of 30 years jail time.

2. Abortion - I support a woman's right to choose. I do not believe that the government should have any say in the issue.

3. The Environment - Much stricter regualtions on industrial emissions should be set in place within the next 10 years. Automobile emissions standards also need to changed. In 10 years I'd like to see any non-commercial vehicle that achieves less than 50 mpg classified as a gas-guzzler and be taxed heavily.

4. OIL - I do support your call for research into alternative power sources, however I do not support Alaskan drilling. The pristine nature of the Alaskan landscape must be preserved.

5. Terrorism - I pretty much agree with you here, although I would prefer the U.S. take a smaller role in international policing, in favor of increased support from other UN members.

6. Drugs, Tobacco, and Alcohol - Legalize everything and let nature run it's course here. I hate to say it, but we are not getting a good bang for our buck with the war on drugs.

7. Immigration - I do agree that immigration needs to be more tightly regualted, although I do not support your call for mexican's to denounce their heritage!

8. European relations - The european nations need to understand that if they want to be part of this peaceful world we're trying to achieve, they better throw a little more support into policing it. We can't do everything!

9. Religion - I agree. Also, no federal funds should go to any religious group.

10. Health Care - We are not ready for socialized health care, and in fact we may never be.

 

[Amused]

<< I have pretty much the opposite philosophy:

1. Gun Control - All guns but hunting rifles should be banned. There should be better background checks and longer waiting periods on hunting rifles. Gun related crimes should require a mandatory sentence of 30 years jail time.

6. Drugs, Tobacco, and Alcohol - Legalize everything and let nature run it's course here. I hate to say it, but we are not getting a good bang for our buck with the war on drugs. >>



I don't get how one can have this huge of a lapse in logic. You concede that making drugs illegal was a farce, and unworkable in a free society, but you want to do that very thing with guns. Knowing how very easy it is for someone to get drugs in the US, what on earth would make you think it would be any harder to get guns???

Meanwhile, a non-drug user has NO use for drugs. But an honest citizen has a definite use for firearms (self defense).

Sorry, but your stance defies logic, and is oppressive. We have the right to be addicted (and thereby more dependant on the state), but not the right to defend ourselves (and thereby less dependant on the state)???

All I see here is a punishment on law abiding citizens for the actions of a tiny minority. NO problem has ever been solved by taking away the rights of the law abiding, instead of focusing on those who break the laws.

 

[Piano Man]

My Response.

1. Gun Control - same as your abortion control. We will look back and see ourselves as savages that need useless weapons that are used for killing.

2. Abortion - Agree, but I have a few exceptions. If the mother is in danger of dying, or is raped, or the baby will be in pain for the rest of its life due to something wrong, then abortion is up to the woman.

3. The Environment - Completely disagree, basically reverse your statement, and then it will make sense

4. Oil - I agree about the alternatives, but disagree on your reasoning and everything else.

5. Terrorism - Disagree. We need to look at why these people at pissed, and trust me its not because they are evil and are jealous of our democracy, geesh. Way to simple and innacurate.

6. Drugs - agree except for the whole Columbia thing. Remind me to put roundup in your tap water and see how you like it.

7. Immigration - disagree on everything. That is a really, REALLY conservative stance you have there on this issue. Almost scarey.

8. Euro Relations - Nice nationalistic ego there. Next

9. Religion - AGREE Also, NO gov't spending to faith based orginizations.

10. Health Care - well, you said you defend HMO's. You might want to rethink your first issue about guns, because you might get shot by saying something as stupid as that.

11. Other - not really important, but sure, why the hell not.


Basically, you are a conservative isolationist, but for some reason you don't want to see religion take over. Strange mix. Me, well, if you can't tell I'm a Liberal/Green Socialist. Nice read, I enjoy reading people's views no matter what they are.