AAAAAACK ! Need assistance please :)

Wait one moment, (slowly lowering 38 special from temple), OK ;), here goes, I just acquired a used Lynksys BEFSR41 4 port cable router, with everything unplugged I carefully hook up all the cables, (cable modem to WAN, port #4 to my 3COM etherlink card) plug the modem in and let it initialize, I then plugged in the router, it initialized, I then booted my PC, checked all the settings and used the internet Wizard to detect the correct settings, no internet access, OK, I then type in winipcfg and hit "renew all" to acquire a new IP address and gateway (Optimum online, winblows 98SE), I try again, no access.(It could not acquire any new numbers as if the router was not there)

BLAH !

I reset the router to the default factory settings, reboot everything, no access, I call up my buddy who is a guru, he tells me to bring him the router to him at work to check it out, he calls back, everything is perfect with the router, I go back and hook up just my modem, no access, after trying every trick I know I gave up (After an hour), not 15 minutes ago I rebooted my PC and just for sh!ts and grins I click on internet Exploder and BINGO, I have access.

I then noticed that my Network Neighborhood icon is now missing from my desktop, does anyone have any idea what the hell is going on and how do I correctly configure my system to suit the router ?


Edit;

During this process, I tried in order ;

Port #4

#3
#2
#1

Same results for all ports.
 

minendo

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Does your computer at least recognize that there is a network connection? What OS are you running?

Also, ygpm
 

agnitrate

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If your linksys is anything like mine, if you open up IE and type as the web address '192.168.1.1' it has your router settings. You can check the DHCP table to see if your computer is listed on there to make sure everything is set up properly.

You might have done this when you mentioned 'set up' but better safe than sorry ;)

-silver
 

everman

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So now it does work? Have you tried looking at the router's settings? It should be 192.168.1.1 by default I think. Password is admin I think also (you should change that). Although by default you shouldn't have to change anything, but it will display its status (ip address etc).
 

OK, I have no access to the router, I plugged just the router into my ethernet card, typed in 192.168.1.1, no access, any ideas ?
 

agnitrate

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Originally posted by: Roger
OK, I have no access to the router, I plugged just the router into my ethernet card, typed in 192.168.1.1, no access, any ideas ?

Does the router show that it's working properly? I think that it's a green light if it's ok, yellow if it's got an error. I've never seen it where you can't even login to it.

Are you sure the network card is set up right? Have you used it before with another connection?

If you have 2 computers, you could try hooking them both up to the router (assuming it's more than 1 port), and then try to ping one computer from the other.

-silver
 

Dug

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Take care of your computers network settings before connecting to the router.

If you previously had a dialup connection, then you should remove any links to it in your Network Neighborhood.

Open a command prompt and type ping 127.0.0.1
If you get a reply from 127.0.0.1 without timing out, then Your network settings should be fine.

If you don't get a reply this is where your problem is.
Your NIC's properties need to have TCP/IP associated with it

If all is well
Connect your computer to the modem. (Skip the router)
Release and renew your ip settings.
If you do not get an Internet connection then the router is not the problem.

You will have to dig into the correct settings for you NIC, possibly trying a different PCI slot.

If Internet connection works- then connect your computer to the router
Any port will work except the wan port.

Open up a cmd prompt and type ping 192.168.x.x

If you get a a response then that connection is fine.

Now connect your modem to the router.
You should now have an Internet connection.

One of the problems you might have is if you don't clone your mac address- you might not get a connection.

What is important is that you can get into your router. Opening up a browser and typing http://192.168.x.x (x i'm not sure what your routers numbers are)

If you can get into the menu then you can clone your mac address, or if you are still having problems then you might have to manually assigned an ip address for your computer. Don't ask why, but DHCP does not work for some.

 

Need4Speed

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Originally posted by: Dug
Take care of your computers network settings before connecting to the router.

If you previously had a dialup connection, then you should remove any links to it in your Network Neighborhood.

Open a command prompt and type ping 127.0.0.1
If you get a reply from 127.0.0.1 without timing out, then Your network settings should be fine.

If you don't get a reply this is where your problem is.
Your NIC's properties need to have TCP/IP associated with it

If all is well
Connect your computer to the modem. (Skip the router)
Release and renew your ip settings.
If you do not get an Internet connection then the router is not the problem.

You will have to dig into the correct settings for you NIC, possibly trying a different PCI slot.

If Internet connection works- then connect your computer to the router
Any port will work except the wan port.

Open up a cmd prompt and type ping 192.168.x.x

If you get a a response then that connection is fine.

Now connect your modem to the router.
You should now have an Internet connection.

One of the problems you might have is if you don't clone your mac address- you might not get a connection.

What is important is that you can get into your router. Opening up a browser and typing http://192.168.x.x (x i'm not sure what your routers numbers are)

If you can get into the menu then you can clone your mac address, or if you are still having problems then you might have to manually assigned an ip address for your computer. Don't ask why, but DHCP does not work for some.



:beer:
 

Dug

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Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: Dug
Take care of your computers network settings before connecting to the router.

If you previously had a dialup connection, then you should remove any links to it in your Network Neighborhood.

Open a command prompt and type ping 127.0.0.1
If you get a reply from 127.0.0.1 without timing out, then Your network settings should be fine.

If you don't get a reply this is where your problem is.
Your NIC's properties need to have TCP/IP associated with it

If all is well
Connect your computer to the modem. (Skip the router)
Release and renew your ip settings.
If you do not get an Internet connection then the router is not the problem.

You will have to dig into the correct settings for you NIC, possibly trying a different PCI slot.

If Internet connection works- then connect your computer to the router
Any port will work except the wan port.

Open up a cmd prompt and type ping 192.168.x.x

If you get a a response then that connection is fine.

Now connect your modem to the router.
You should now have an Internet connection.

One of the problems you might have is if you don't clone your mac address- you might not get a connection.

What is important is that you can get into your router. Opening up a browser and typing http://192.168.x.x (x i'm not sure what your routers numbers are)

If you can get into the menu then you can clone your mac address, or if you are still having problems then you might have to manually assigned an ip address for your computer. Don't ask why, but DHCP does not work for some.



:beer:

:beer:
It is that time, isn't it.
 

Thanks Dug

After days and days trying to sort out my TCP/IP stack and trying to regain internet access I ended up formatting my hard drive and reinstalling Win98SE without the router.

The Router was tested on another system with XP, works fine, there seems to be a conflict with the TCP/IP stack and the router, no matter what I do, the stack only works with the cable modem, it will not see the router even if I format and setup the TCP/IP with the router only :confused:

What is really strange, after hooking up the router my Network Neighborhood icon disappears, even after a fresh install of Win98SE
 

Dug

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You probably have already done this but,

Try your nic in a different slot.
Try a different nic.
Try a different cable.

 

Dug

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The Network Neighborhood problem is usually because Client for Microsoft Networks is not installed.

Also check your device manager to see if the nic is properly recognized/ and or if there are any question/exclamation marks.