a8 3850 is already at provantage listed.

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nonameo

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imho 142 is still too much money. Grab a 955 and a discrete card for cheap. Llano is for notebooks. Perhaps it will be a good deal for system integrators?

edit: also note that its stock status is special order, aka preorder :p 3-4 weeks to ship
 
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955s are still minimally $100, and the discrete card you'll get for $40 is going to be substantially inferior to the Llano APU's graphics processor. Also, the 955's TDP is 125W, so a 955 + discrete GPU combo is going to exceed the APU's TDP by 50% at least. Of course, that 50% figure is load, not idle nor even gaming, but you get the idea.

Llano's not just for notebooks. It's great for light gaming desktops, too - and that's a lot of people. So you're right, this is a reasonable price for system builders.
 
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Markfw900 said:
Its special order..... NOT IN STOCK
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i have no doubt it will be in stock in a short time, i'm expecting the price to be the same or less.

i for one am excited about this, when the inevitable microcenter/ frys deals come around, and also the cheaper A8s llanos (the 3800) become available, who knows there could be a llano a8 for $100.

i mean this is approximately equivalent to buying a 955 phenom ii with a 4650 or 4670 card at this point, except with much lower power use, plus all the motherboards have things like displayport and usb 3.0. plus its not easy to build an itx box or something with a 945 or 955 phenom and any real video card.
 
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A company like Gigabyte wouldn't have announced 12 motherboards, prior to a product actually being available unless they were absolutely sure that a.) That the partnering product (Llano) was going to be be widely available and B.) that demand was going to be decently high.

That tells me that we are probably no more then a week or two away from OEM chips. Maybe 3-4 weeks PiB. This being worst case scenario. Its not like AM3+ that has 40 different CPU's that are available for it. Any FM1 board needs a Llano or its a completely wasted product and production.
 
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Gigantopithecus said:
955s are still minimally $100, and the discrete card you'll get for $40 is going to be substantially inferior to the Llano APU's graphics processor. Also, the 955's TDP is 125W, so a 955 + discrete GPU combo is going to exceed the APU's TDP by 50% at least. Of course, that 50% figure is load, not idle nor even gaming, but you get the idea.

Llano's not just for notebooks. It's great for light gaming desktops, too - and that's a lot of people. So you're right, this is a reasonable price for system builders.
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mmm, I don't know about substantially inferior. We're not talking about a hugely substantial amount of money either though, 20$ more puts you in the range for having a better CPU and gpu. In any case, I would reccomend llano for HTPC, but not budget desktop(unless someone insists on buying from a big name like hp/dell/etc) the small amount of money it takes to have both a better CPU and gpu is worth it.
 
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nonameo said:
imho 142 is still too much money. Grab a 955 and a discrete card for cheap. Llano is for notebooks. Perhaps it will be a good deal for system integrators?

edit: also note that its stock status is special order, aka preorder :p 3-4 weeks to ship
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Price without rebates on newegg:
5570 ~60$
Athlon II x4 635 ~89$

The cpu will be slower than the Llano.
The 5570 will be faster, unless your willing to Heavy Overclock your Llano iGPU and Ram.


I think the Llano at ~140$ is competitive with that.
Its power use under load will be much lower, not to even mention the Idle power draw (which will be drastically lower).

Then comes the fact that the llano alternative you can put into a tiny small pc case, and slap on a silent CPU cooler and not have to worry about noise.
 
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$142 for a Llano chip is a bit pricey.

I guess getting that 965 recently at Frys for $99 is looking like a good deal. There are lots of fire sales going on for AM3 parts. MC had a 965 + free mobo offer for $130.

Its not at a good price point, but then again, its not a performance part for the desktop.
 
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Just imagine 4 llano equivalent PCs with discrete video cards, all playing Starcraft II. Each one sucking an average of 250 watts from the wall. Replace them all with llanos and you go from 1 kilowatt to 400 watts.
 
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I think it's a great price for a CPU/GPU combo. Add the lower power usage compared to Phenom, and the ability to hybrid crossfire (I hope) then that would be great.
 
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sm625 said:
Just imagine 4 llano equivalent PCs with discrete video cards, all playing Starcraft II. Each one sucking an average of 250 watts from the wall. Replace them all with llanos and you go from 1 kilowatt to 400 watts.
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Who's to say it'll be a significant improvement over existing products today. From the only preview so far, it doesn't even use less power than the 2500K:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4447/desktop-llano-motherboards-the-asrock-a75-extreme6-preview/3
 
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100 watts seems pretty good considering it's a High clocked Quad Core CPU+GPU in one. Don't you agree?
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at 32nm and considering the laptop version at the same speed is 45watt I believe ...
it doesn't seem very impressive from an ITX perspective imo
There is always the hope that they can be undervolted atleast
 
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Knowing provantage, they either slightly undercharge or overcharge for their products compared to other e-tailers.

I bought a sempron 140 for 30$. And I bought my x4 phenom from them for 10$ more than the egg(I had credit and sold my x6 earlier).
 
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