A64 (s939)

[SpedeRacer]

I noticed the A64 3500+ (s939, 90nm) is priced at ~$350 and the A64 3200+ (s939, 90nm) is priced at ~$200. Does anyone know why these two chips are priced $150 apart?

Prices obtained from Monarch.

 

[Mik3y]

because they are 2 different cpu's and ones faster then the other?

i noticed a honda civic at a nearby dealership for $14k and an acura nsx there for $90K. does anyone know why these two cars are priced $76k apart?

 

[SpedeRacer]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
because they are 2 different cpu's and ones faster then the other?

i noticed a honda civic at a nearby dealership for $14k and an acura nsx there for $90K. does anyone know why these two cars are priced $76k apart?

Thanks for um...stating the obvious.

 

[santa590]

Probably the same reason with the A64 3800+ (939 non-90nm) and the A64 3500+ (939 non-90nm). Although, this one has a $300+ difference for its retail.

The simple reason probably is "you pay a premium for the latest and greatest/fastest technology."

For alittle indepth reason: Cost of production, supply & demand, etc.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: SpedeRacer

Originally posted by: Mik3y
because they are 2 different cpu's and ones faster then the other?

i noticed a honda civic at a nearby dealership for $14k and an acura nsx there for $90K. does anyone know why these two cars are priced $76k apart?

Thanks for um...stating the obvious.

any time

 

[SpedeRacer]

Originally posted by: santa590
Probably the same reason with the A64 3800+ (939 non-90nm) and the A64 3500+ (939 non-90nm). Although, this one has a $300+ difference for its retail.

The simple reason probably is "you pay a premium for the latest and greatest/fastest technology."

For alittle indepth reason: Cost of production, supply & demand, etc.

The 3800+ has a 0.2Ghz advantage over the 3500+ but if the 3200+ (90nm) and 3500+ (90nm) stay the same frequency as their 130nm counterparts, they will have the same freq. What gives?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SpedeRacer
I noticed the A64 3500+ (s939, 90nm) is priced at ~$350 and the A64 3200+ (s939, 90nm) is priced at ~$200. Does anyone know why these two chips are priced $150 apart?

Prices obtained from Monarch.

The price to performance ratio is horrendous for that $350 chip! Especially if you overclock!

Anyway bone stock. You have chips that cost half as much and are only 10-15% slower like the, 3.0C, 3.2C, 3.0E, 3.2E, A643000, A643200...



The way I define price to performance is, if something costs twice as much it better be twice as good, or fast in this case. Any chip above $200 fails to fullfill this matrix. And the failue gets higher and more disproportionate the more expensive the chip. They rely on people making emotional decisions for these sales.

 

[santa590]

Huh? The 3200+ is 2.0GHz and the 3400+ is 2.2GHz. If your talking about the 3400+ and the 3500+, then they are at the same frequency. Although the later has dual channel memory controller.

 

[SpedeRacer]

There are some 3200+s with 2.2Ghz but they only have 512KB of L2 cache...the Newcastle one.

 

[santa590]

Opps. Your right. I was thinking about the 1MB ones.

But how do you know the 90nm is going to be the same freq? I couldn't find any site that shows the specs for the 90nm. Amd could have lowered the freq with the 3200+ because of the dual channel. Do you have any source on it?

 

[ectx]

Damn. Shipping does not start till 9/28.

 

[SpedeRacer]

I don't know that they will be the same frequency I'm just saying if it stays consitent.

 

[Concillian]

The socket 939 chips will be clocked at 200 MHz below their socket 754 bretheren:

3000+ = 1.8 GHz 90nm S939
3200+ = 2.0 GHz 90nm S939

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce...5_9487%5E10248,00.html

 

[SpedeRacer]

Dag...

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

No matter how you cut it, the 3500+ is way overpriced for its performance.

The new 90nm 939 chips seem to be closer in price to their equivalent 754 counterparts.

Hopefully, the 3500+ will come down to about the same price as the 3400+, which is where it belongs.

-D'oh!

 

[flawlssdistortn]

Hey you think it's overpriced now, I bought that thing when it was priced at $500 and recieved it in the mail like 3 days before AMD slashed prices to $350 Anyway I'm happy with it, and just to clarify - the difference between it and socket 754 is a 128bit dual channel memory controller. More importantly, the difference between it and the FX-53 is $450, .2GHZ and 512MB L2 cache (which isnt really that important anyway with the high memory bandwith). So the best buy is definitely the 3500!!!!

 

[flawlssdistortn]

Oh and guys, clock speed isnt everything, you should know that. The A64s have an integrated dual channel memory controller which makes a huge difference. The 2.4GHZ FX-53 beats the P4 3.4GHZ in many benchmarks.