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The 1.25V is incorrect. AMD's documentation shows that they run at 1.4V so these seem to be well selected Athlon64s. Therefore, I would expect that the max mutliplier lock is still in effect. There are 1.2V Athlon64s coming but those are a different breed altogether.

On a side note, I know my DTR is perfectly stable at 1.45V (I haven't tried lower) so these may not be anything special over the DTRs
 
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these look to be really cool chips :)

a 3000+ with 1 meg of L2

and a 2800+ with 1 meg of L2

good stuff :)
 
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Another point for those that think these are some big advance in thermals for the Athlon64. Remember that when AMD rates thermal output they only give the max output for the single top of the food chain CPU. Thus, for the C0 stepping, the highest is a 3400+ at 89W. For the CG stepping DTRs the highest is a 3400+ at 81.5W. Now here's where you need to pay attention. The highest AMN 1.4V CPU is the 3200+ and NOT the 3400+ so the TDP listed of 62W cannot be compared to the other CPUs. In fact, if you compare it to the DTR CPUs and do a little guestimation (don't know if there's a linear relationship between clockspeed and heat) you'll see that these are basically CG DTR CPUs running at 1.4V which, considering my experience, is a little or maybe not at all better thermally than the current DTRs are capable of. I really think these are just center of the wafer DTR CPUs that AMD has decided to rebrand.
 
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I guess we will just have to see when someone tests them, wont we? I cannot imagine newegg just pulled the 1.25V from thin air, for it isnt listed in the white papers at all. Also remember, the XP-M are just the cream of the crop for the XP's, are they not?
 
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Originally posted by: cjdomer04
I guess we will just have to see when someone tests them, wont we? I cannot imagine newegg just pulled the 1.25V from thin air, for it isnt listed in the white papers at all. Also remember, the XP-M are just the cream of the crop for the XP's, are they not?
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Actually this isn't the first time the Egg listed the wrong specs on newly stocked A64's ;) They listed the 3000+ as the 1.8ghz 1mb cache version initially but the real specs were 2ghz 512kb cache. Bar is exactly right, all you have to do is take the model# Newegg lists and look at the chart in the link he provided and you'll see it's the same 1.4v CG stepping B1 package DTR he uses. As he mentioned the 62W power limit is most likely just because the highest clockspeed on the AMN model is 2ghz. The 1.2v chip will be CG stepping but with the new B2 packaging and 512kb cache, just look at the data sheet.

If you look at the actual 3200+ in the picture it's a 0418 which makes that badboy barely a month old :beer:
 
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so... you are saying that these chips are no different than the previously released DTR's, but the new "low power" (as quoted on their website) ones are going to be OC'ing ones, assuming they are multiplier unlocked? If these are the same as the DTR's, then why does AMD release and identify them separately? I see what you are saying with the white papers, I am just confused where Newegg pulled the 1.25V number from. I didnt see that value anywhere in there, but I may have missed it.
 
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