A64 3000+ vs 3200+ (S939)

[J men]

Hi I'm look at getting a 939 A64 pritty soon and wanted to know if there is much difference between these processors in terms of speed and more importantly overclocking. I think there was about a £50 ($100ish???) differece between them when they were first out, but the 3200+ is only about £30 more expensive, so the 3200 looks a bit better.

I've read that the 3000+ has more overclocking potential, but is there really very much difference.

Thanks guys

 

[chilled]

Well as percentage 3000 is bound to get more of a boost than the 3200. If you're looking to overclock then factor in the cast of a good HSF, such as the XP-90/120. This should add ~£30 to your cost.

The 3200+ is better to OC because of the 10x multiplier. That's why I bought one. I can't coment further as I've not yet had a chance to play around with it with year end finals breathing down my neck.

It comes down to this: If you can afford the extra, get a 3200+ and good HSF. If you're pushing it, then get the 3000+ and good HSF. Just don't forget the good HSF (as your OCing)!

 

[spaceghost21]

The stock HSF is actually quite good, and should be proficient for a good OC (2.4-2.6Ghz). Both the 3200+ and 3000+ should OC to about the same, though you will probaly be able to higher, easier,with a 3200+ because of the 10x multiplier.

 

[gobucks]

i agree with spaceghost21. The stock HSF let me hit 2.55GHz pretty easily, and the only thing holding me back is that I don't have a desire to up vcore any more. As for the comparison of the CPUs, they have the EXACT same overclocking potential. Both top out about 2.6-2.7GHz. But as far as PERCENT overclocking, the 3000+ is better, because 2.7GHz is a 50% overclock, rather than a 35% one. If you want to hit 2.7GHz or something, then you'll probably want to grab a good cooler and a 3200+, since you should have an easier time (less stress on the FSB and RAM) using a 10x multi. However, if you're looking for the 2.5GHz range, you can probably get by with a 3000+ and stock cooling, as long as you have good RAM.

 

[richardrds]

yep, I agree, the HSF included with the retail version of the 3000+/3200+ is more then adequate for OC's up too 2.6Ghz.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Yeah you can save quite a good chunk of money NOT buying a new HS/fan, especially the recommended XP-90-120 go for a good $50 or so. The 10x multiplier helps if your motherboard/chipset cannot give you a high HTT, otherwise the 9x is just fine. Last I checked, £30 wasn't an "only" figure that could be thrown around easily. Save that money for a better motherboard or better PSU.

 

[fstime]

3200+ and PDP Patriot XBL TCCD.

 

[chilled]

Originally posted by: richardrds
yep, I agree, the HSF included with the retail version of the 3000+/3200+ is more then adequate for OC's up too 2.6Ghz.

Maybe I should actually try the stock HSF when I get round to setting up the PC... it looks very ordinary though.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: chilled

Originally posted by: richardrds
yep, I agree, the HSF included with the retail version of the 3000+/3200+ is more then adequate for OC's up too 2.6Ghz.

Maybe I should actually try the stock HSF when I get round to setting up the PC... it looks very ordinary though.

It is, but the Winchesters run pretty cool. Mine's at 42C load @ 2.5GHz (1.44V) with a Zalman 7000A AlCu on low.

 

[superkdogg]

Absolutely use the stock fan. Those CPU's don't like extra voltage the way the AXP's or even the Northwoods did. You won't get much more by throwing Vcore at it, so the stock fan is more than adequate for mild-moderate OCing. Mine is running 2.7 with temps of about 55 under full load and 42 or so idle.