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GuitarDaddy

GuitarDaddy

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Now this is a parody I can agree with :thumbsup:

Be it blackface or tweed, fenders are fine indeed
 
spacejamz

spacejamz

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marshall stack is where it's at... :)
 
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blinblue

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Probably a stupid question, but one that's been bothering me. Why do they always put microphones in front of the amps (as seen in spacejamz's picture). Couldn't they make it so the amps had an audio out that provided the same function? What's so special about making it go through some speakers, then back into a microphone?
 
GuitarDaddy

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Ns1

Ns1

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blinblue said:
Probably a stupid question, but one that's been bothering me. Why do they always put microphones in front of the amps (as seen in spacejamz's picture). Couldn't they make it so the amps had an audio out that provided the same function? What's so special about making it go through some speakers, then back into a microphone?
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Some artists want the sound of the speakers
 
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AlienCraft

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blinblue said:
Probably a stupid question, but one that's been bothering me. Why do they always put microphones in front of the amps (as seen in spacejamz's picture). Couldn't they make it so the amps had an audio out that provided the same function? What's so special about making it go through some speakers, then back into a microphone?
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Those aren't amplifiers, those are speaker cabinets. And, I'll wager that a majority of them are devoid of actual speakers. They may have a cone glued into a frame mounted in the cabinet for visual, but transportation costs, along with stage volume considerations render most of these "Walls" anachronistic.
 
Ns1

Ns1

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AlienCraft said:
Those aren't amplifiers, those are speaker cabinets. And, I'll wager that a majority of them are devoid of actual speakers. They may have a cone glued into a frame mounted in the cabinet for visual, but transportation costs, along with stage volume considerations render most of these "Walls" anachronistic.
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o_Oo_Oo_O
 
GuitarDaddy

GuitarDaddy

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blinblue said:
Probably a stupid question, but one that's been bothering me. Why do they always put microphones in front of the amps (as seen in spacejamz's picture). Couldn't they make it so the amps had an audio out that provided the same function? What's so special about making it go through some speakers, then back into a microphone?
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There are some tube amp makers including Marshall that make tube amps with post tube direct outputs intended to go directly to the board bypassing the need for mics yet keeping the warmth generated by the tubes. But most old school guitar techs will tell you they still don't capture the warmth and tone as well as a SM57 or similar guitar mic placed in front of the speaker cabs.
 
spacejamz

spacejamz

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AlienCraft said:
Those aren't amplifiers, those are speaker cabinets. And, I'll wager that a majority of them are devoid of actual speakers. They may have a cone glued into a frame mounted in the cabinet for visual, but transportation costs, along with stage volume considerations render most of these "Walls" anachronistic.
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LOL
 
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x-alki

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I thought you were talking about the fenders that go on your really big boat. ;)
 
Fritzo

Fritzo

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The Fender Tone Master was the only Fender amp I really liked, but it costs $$$$$$$. I like it because it sounded like a Marshall Plexi...so I just decided to stick with Marshalls.
 
Rubycon

Rubycon

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AlienCraft said:
LOL, I'm telling ya, back when I was mixing Y&T on the road (80's), there were dummy boxes on the entire second and third level. Same for the "big bands", No one wants to pay to haul dead weight.
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Yep definitely not needed with today's gear.
 
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applepearwine

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Sorry to stray from the original intent of this thread. But, I am interested in getting a home studio on the cheap. I want basically keyboards and everything run through my computer. stuff like software, small mixer and condenser mic information would be appreciated. Plus some websites that might give me information about how to go about all this. It is a small project, but it holds significance to me.

Perry
 
Rubycon

Rubycon

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What you're going to want is a USB or Firewire recording interface. Entry level ones (M-Audio) work decent.

www.harmonycentral.com is a popular site with a forum like this one but dedicated to musicians.
 
GuitarDaddy

GuitarDaddy

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Rubys suggestions are spot on. The first thing you will need to determine is how many tracks you need to record simultaniously this will determine what type interface and software you will need. I too would suggest M-Audio for begining hardware and Protools for M-Audio as the software. There are some good freeware recording packages like "Reaper" which work well but they lack the mixing and mastering features that you get with software like Protools.

The only thing that sucks about protools is it still doesn't support a 64bit OS or the additional ram allowed by said 64bit OS.
 
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