A week with XFCE.

n0cmonkey

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part I

I've spent a little over a week using XFCE. A lot of you probably don't know my zealotry for Blackbox. If I used Windows at home, there is a good chance I would use bb4win. I love it. I know the configuration files. I know how to add what I want in no time at all. It's simple, basic, fast, and- er this is about XFCE isn't it?

Ok, like I said, I've used XFCE for a little over a week now. To quote CTho9305, it's pretty. I stuck with pretty much the default themes, but if I remember to I'll install a 3rd party theme to see how "tough" it is. I think I just have to untar the theme in /usr/local/share/xfce/styles or some such directory. So it shouldn't be tough at all. I'll update when I get around to it (if I get around to it).

The settings utility is pretty nice. Simple, and organized well. It took me seconds to add a few desktops (running with less than 5 is tough). I can't remember if sloppy focus is on by default (it's in part I), but there is an option for it. There is also a sloppy focus related option I adore! The window that is in focus will pop to the front if it is focused on for a period of time, and the period of time is user configurable. This is something I realize I want in every window manager, so I'll be looking for this in any potential upcoming threads.

There are 3 main "taskbars" in XFCE. There is one on the top, and two on the bottom. The bar on the top kept track of open windows on that desktop, much like the Windows taskbar. The bottom right bar did the same, but keeps track of all windows open on all desktops. It uses small icons to keep things from getting out of control. The last bar is on the bottom left. It has a button for an xterm, the settings program, a clock, and dozens of other little things. More on this later. Adding user configured programs to the bottom left bar is simple. You click on an arrow, and select an option to add an entry. Simply type the command into the box that pops up, name it, and you're done. Adding Mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, and dopewars was easy and took maybe a minute.

The bar on the left also has quite a few options. You can add little graphs for just about everything on the system. It feels like a built in gkrellm. I added a few to my bar: network throughput, disk throughput, cpu usage, memory usage, and swap usage. These are all available in gkrellm, but saves me the trouble of running yet another program.

The desktop does feel a bit cluttered. With three bars on the desktop, I felt like I lost a lot of screen space. The sizes of the taskbars are user configurable, so it can get better. XFCE is also fairly large. It was a bit sluggish at 256MB of ram, but ran quite well with 512MB. Maybe I'm picky, or greedy, or spoiled. So try it for yourself to see how it runs on your system.

Over all, I don't think it will be the :light: of my desktop experience, but I'm not going to be deleting it anytime soon. I would definitely recommend XFCE to someone with a decent computer, looking for something that is not barebones and a little flashy.
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
To quote CTho9305, it's pretty.
:D There are two options: minimalist, and pretty. The vast majority of open source stuff falls under "bloated and ugly".

The desktop does feel a bit cluttered. With three bars on the desktop, I felt like I lost a lot of screen space.
The thing that bothers me is that when I maximize a window, (by default) it goes below the toolbars, so you can't see some of the stuff at the bottom of the window. It would be nice if it didn't maximize beyond the toolbar. If you move the toolbar from the "top" layer to "normal", you can't raise it without unmaximizing your maximized window. Maybe the answer is not to maximize windows... I know I don't do that at work, but for some reason I do at home.

I would definitely recommend XFCE to someone with a decent computer, looking for something that is not barebones and a little flashy.
It feels a lot like geoshell for win32.

edit: I'm running under VMware, with 192MB RAM in the virtual machine, and XFCE takes a while to load when you start X, but so do mozilla and openoffice. Of course, I usually log in once, and then don't log out for a month (and launch moz once)... so that isn't really something that bothers me.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
To quote CTho9305, it's pretty.
:D

The desktop does feel a bit cluttered. With three bars on the desktop, I felt like I lost a lot of screen space.
The thing that bothers me is that when I maximize a window, (by default) it goes below the toolbars, so you can't see some of the stuff at the bottom of the window. It would be nice if it didn't maximize beyond the toolbar. If you move the toolbar from the "top" layer to "normal", you can't raise it without unmaximizing your maximized window. Maybe the answer is not to maximize windows... I know I don't do that at work, but for some reason I do at home.

Forgot about that. That is annoying. I'm stuck with a 17" monitor at home since the cheap 19" crapped out, and I've been maximizing things lately. I should get back into the habit of half screen sized windows...

I would definitely recommend XFCE to someone with a decent computer, looking for something that is not barebones and a little flashy.
It feels a lot like geoshell for win32.

edit: I'm running under VMware, with 192MB RAM in the virtual machine, and XFCE takes a while to load when you start X, but so do mozilla and openoffice. Of course, I usually log in once, and then don't log out for a month (and launch moz once)... so that isn't really something that bothers me.

It doesn't take long on my machine. Athlon 2400+ (1.8ghz) and 512MB ram.
 

CTho9305

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http://ctho.ath.cx/tmp/xfce.png
I seem to have left openoffice out of the list of visible things. It should read: XFCE, OpenOffice.org, Mozilla, Gaim, OpenBSD 3.5 ;)

edit: I guess I maximize stuff at home because 1024x768 just isn't enough... the 2560x1024 at work is much more productive :D.
 

Sunner

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The thing that bothers me is that when I maximize a window, (by default) it goes below the toolbars, so you can't see some of the stuff at the bottom of the window. It would be nice if it didn't maximize beyond the toolbar. If you move the toolbar from the "top" layer to "normal", you can't raise it without unmaximizing your maximized window. Maybe the answer is not to maximize windows... I know I don't do that at work, but for some reason I do at home.

There's a setting in the config program that'll allow you to set an offset from either side of the screen, so that windows won't maximize beyond this.
Just set that to the size of the toolbar, and the window will maximize just right :)