A war without weapons. Who wins?

moonbogg

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Nation going to war with nation, with nothing but hands and feet. Who wins? China? How do they get here? I think we could beat the crap out of them as they get off the boat. They would need a lot of boats as well. We could try to sink their boats, but only by ramming them with out own boats, because weapons don't exist in this world. No guns, knives, torpedos, nothing.
What country would rule them all? Who would strike fear into their enemies?
 

Vdubchaos

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America has very little experience when it comes to fighting compare the rest of the world.

China wins, no contest.

Fighting is part of daily life outside of this country. It's how lot of problems/conflicts get resolved. In America, you might get sued.
 

Uppsala9496

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No knives? I'm assuming that everyone is suffering from extreme malnutrition then. How else am I going to butcher my cow for a nice ribeye?
 

waggy

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America has very little experience when it comes to fighting compare the rest of the world.

China wins, no contest.

Fighting is part of daily life outside of this country. It's how lot of problems/conflicts get resolved. In America, you might get sued.

lol

way to buy into stereotypes.

It's hard to say OP. depends on who is attacking who. never count out a man who is fighting for home soil or family.
 

Sonikku

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America wins by default because any attempt at taking away our guns would fail.
 

cbrunny

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Like a giant Royal Rumble but to the death? That'd be insane.

Shawn Michaels would probably win.
 

moonbogg

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Doesn't have to be to the death. One side can give up. This is about strength, fear and pride. This is international fighting on a world scale. This is fisticuffs warfare.

If two nations have a major conflict, they can each choose their best war team, perhaps 100 men per team. Super elite, national pride warriors and they fight in the eyes of the world, watching the battle and eagerly awaiting for a clean victor to emerge, settling the conflict until the next one eventually arises. Few people die compared to weaponized warfare, but the pride and shame are far greater with bare fisted battle between nations.
 
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z1ggy

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Not America. Probably India or China just due to number of people they have.
 

Majes

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Nation going to war with nation, with nothing but hands and feet. Who wins? China? How do they get here? I think we could beat the crap out of them as they get off the boat. They would need a lot of boats as well. We could try to sink their boats, but only by ramming them with out own boats, because weapons don't exist in this world. No guns, knives, torpedos, nothing.
What country would rule them all? Who would strike fear into their enemies?


How is your example not using boats as weapons?
 

ultimatebob

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How are the Chinese going to get to us without the technology to make weapons? Even a canoe is going to be hard to build without a sharp cutting/digging tool that could also be used as a weapon.
 

SlitheryDee

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Can we assume that things have always been this way? So all the brainpower and money that was spent designing and researching weaponry was spent optimizing weaponless combat since the beginning of warfare? I imagine the emphasis would then be placed on training, physical enhancement, military intelligence, and deployment speed.

It would still end up being whoever spent the most money who had the best army. We'd have been genetically enhancing our soldiers about as soon as that was feasible. Since necessity often dictates morality, no one would have a problem with it in this alternate universe. Soldiers who were stronger and more resistant to high g-forces could be loaded into supersonic jets that were designed to perform far beyond what a normal human could tolerate and deployed in the battlefield almost as fast as we realized we needed reinforcements.

Satellite technology would be important for intelligence, so we'd be far more advanced in that area than we are currently, the same would be true for drone technology. Mobility would be key. Getting more forces to strategic locations is probably the most important factor in warfare. Faster and planes, jets, cars, trucks, and boats that are capable of carrying greater numbers of troops are all areas that would turn the tide in any war.

There would be more emphasis on strategy. Strategic withdrawals, advances, feints, and dodges would need to be carefully orchestrated to catch enemy armies in situations where they are at a numerical disadvantage without being able to reinforce. Once again that goes back to whoever has the superior intelligence. Satellites, drones, spies, double agents, prisoner interrogation and torture, along with other covert operations would be more important than ever.

Who would be able to throw themselves into the research of all this?

My vote: 'Murica
 
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Newell Steamer

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Countries with a physically active populace would win.

With no weapons, that leaves many opportunities for people to just run, hide and then come back when you are nursing your wounds to kick your teeth in. Plenty of tactics to tire out your enemy as well and then attack when they are trying to catch their breath.

Plus, death would be awful. Especially when a group of tired people are beating you to death.
 

moonbogg

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Can we assume that things have always been this way? So all the brainpower and money that was spent designing and researching weaponry was spent optimizing weaponless combat since the beginning of warfare? I imagine the emphasis would then be placed on training, physical enhancement, military intelligence, and deployment speed. It would still end up being whoever spent the most money who had the best army. We'd have been genetically enhancing our soldiers about as soon as that was feasible. Since necessity often dictates morality, no one would have a problem with it in this alternate universe. Soldiers who were stronger and more resistant to high g-forces could be loaded into supersonic jets that were designed to perform far beyond what a normal human could tolerate and deployed in the battlefield almost as fast as we realized we needed reinforcements. Satellite technology would be important for intelligence, so we'd be far more advanced in that area than we are currently, the same would be true for drone technology. Mobility would be key. Getting more forces to strategic locations is probably the most important factor in warfare. Faster and planes, jets, cars, trucks, and boats that are capable of carrying greater numbers of troops are all areas that would turn the tide in any war.

Who would be able to throw themselves into the research of all this?

My vote: 'Murica

Yep. I vote murica also. We'd still beat their asses just like we always have.
 

Dirigible

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We'd just start rolling one of our fatties and smoosh anyone who dares attack us.
 

notposting

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So maybe that wall on our southern border would be looking better, eh?

Also, let the Russkies, Chinese, and Indians duke it out on their continent for awhile. Should thin the herds down a bit. Setup a polar bear wildlife reserve near the Bering Strait.

Line the northern border with Tim Hortons. The Canucks will all get distracted and just congregate in them.

Probably have to look out for the Aussies. There's a reason they got sent to their island.