Originally posted by: PainTrain
Holy crap, I didn't actuallly expect "yes" votes. I'd like to think someone is trying to sabotage the results, otherwise that's bit ensettling.
Originally posted by: amok
There is a big difference between banning religion and banning the intrusion of religion on the "non-enlightened". I have no problem whatsoever with people practicing their beliefs. It intrudes on my freedoms, however, when they push their beliefs onto me.
I will never favor an all-out banning of religion, but I would like to be protected from religious harrassment, and understand that the differences in beliefs mean that some institutions should be devoid of religion for the sake of fairness.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: amok
There is a big difference between banning religion and banning the intrusion of religion on the "non-enlightened". I have no problem whatsoever with people practicing their beliefs. It intrudes on my freedoms, however, when they push their beliefs onto me.
I will never favor an all-out banning of religion, but I would like to be protected from religious harrassment, and understand that the differences in beliefs mean that some institutions should be devoid of religion for the sake of fairness.
Exactly. However, it is also important to be protected from anti-religious harrassment as well.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: amok
There is a big difference between banning religion and banning the intrusion of religion on the "non-enlightened". I have no problem whatsoever with people practicing their beliefs. It intrudes on my freedoms, however, when they push their beliefs onto me.
I will never favor an all-out banning of religion, but I would like to be protected from religious harrassment, and understand that the differences in beliefs mean that some institutions should be devoid of religion for the sake of fairness.
Exactly. However, it is also important to be protected from anti-religious harrassment as well.
Originally posted by: amok
And before Shadow jumps on my statements, I'll explain my reasoning a bit. By devoid of religion, I don't mean "Atheist", I mean completely neutral. Having Christian monuments/texts/culture in government institutions and public schools is unfair to jews, muslims, buddhists, etc. who may also need to use those facilities. A private school can promote whatever they wish, because anyone going there will have to agree to the material before attending. Public and government institutions often have no real alternative.
Originally posted by: amok
There is a big difference between banning religion and banning the intrusion of religion on the "non-enlightened". I have no problem whatsoever with people practicing their beliefs. It intrudes on my freedoms, however, when they push their beliefs onto me.
I will never favor an all-out banning of religion, but I would like to be protected from religious harrassment, and understand that the differences in beliefs mean that some institutions should be devoid of religion for the sake of fairness.
Wow some would say the the 2000 Presidential Election is a prime example of that.Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: PainTrain
Holy crap, I didn't actuallly expect "yes" votes. I'd like to think someone is trying to sabotage the results, otherwise that's bit ensettling.
i havent voted, in a min there will be one more "no" vote.
*edit* there is my NO vote
i am sure there will be more. on a grander scale though it does not take a majority vote in this country anymore, that is a democracy, we live in a judicial oligarchy now. the majority vote is of no consequence anyway.
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: amok
There is a big difference between banning religion and banning the intrusion of religion on the "non-enlightened". I have no problem whatsoever with people practicing their beliefs. It intrudes on my freedoms, however, when they push their beliefs onto me.
I will never favor an all-out banning of religion, but I would like to be protected from religious harrassment, and understand that the differences in beliefs mean that some institutions should be devoid of religion for the sake of fairness.
but by trying to be protected from religious harrassment, youre also trampleing on others rights. therefore you should just do like people have done for over 100 years in this country and what you continue to do at family gatherings, nod your head and move on. just put up the constant bantering of the zealots and get over it.
Originally posted by: PainTrain
Holy crap, I didn't actuallly expect "yes" votes. I'd like to think someone is trying to sabotage the results, otherwise that's a bit unsettling.
**EDIT: typo's
Why do conservaties think that NOT promoting a religion means the removal of religion
Originally posted by: kage69
Why do conservaties think that NOT promoting a religion means the removal of religion
Bing!
The sheep still can't grasp the concept of 'KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF.'
I wonder how many voted yes just to skew the results to justify their "Religion Under Attack" rants?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: kage69
Why do conservaties think that NOT promoting a religion means the removal of religion
Bing!
The sheep still can't grasp the concept of 'KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF.'
That goes against one of the points of religion... sharing your beliefs with others, both directly and indirectly.
Why are lliberals so anti-religion? <- This question has about as much worth as kage69's question above.
There is difference between not-promoting a religion and attacking a religion. So far, 12 people have voted in favor of banning religion from America. That's nearly 30% of the votes, and that scares me.
The inclusion of "Under God" in the Pledge is a nasty legacy to a shameful time in America and should be removed from the pledge just for that account!Originally posted by: TheBDB
I'm atheist and I voted no. Anyone who votes yes to this particular question clearly does not understand the Constitution. I am however in favor of removing some of the Christianity from the government, such as "under god" in the pledge. Times have changed and I think people need to recognize that there are a lot of Americans that aren't Christian, monotheistic, or religious at all. They deserve the right to pledge their allegiance to our flag and country without invoking something they don't believe in.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: kage69
Why do conservaties think that NOT promoting a religion means the removal of religion
Bing!
The sheep still can't grasp the concept of 'KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF.'
That goes against one of the points of religion... sharing your beliefs with others, both directly and indirectly.
Why are lliberals so anti-religion? <- This question has about as much worth as kage69's question above.
There is difference between not-promoting a religion and attacking a religion. So far, 12 people have voted in favor of banning religion from America. That's nearly 30% of the votes, and that scares me.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I wonder how many voted yes just to skew the results to justify their "Religion Under Attack" rants?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: kage69
Why do conservaties think that NOT promoting a religion means the removal of religion
Bing!
The sheep still can't grasp the concept of 'KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF.'
That goes against one of the points of religion... sharing your beliefs with others, both directly and indirectly.
Why are lliberals so anti-religion? <- This question has about as much worth as kage69's question above.
There is difference between not-promoting a religion and attacking a religion. So far, 12 people have voted in favor of banning religion from America. That's nearly 30% of the votes, and that scares me.
Originally posted by: TheBDB
I'm atheist and I voted no. Anyone who votes yes to this particular question clearly does not understand the Constitution. I am however in favor of removing some of the Christianity from the government, such as "under god" in the pledge. Times have changed and I think people need to recognize that there are a lot of Americans that aren't Christian, monotheistic, or religious at all. They deserve the right to pledge their allegiance to our flag and country without invoking something they don't believe in.