A variation on a theme. Obama, Trump or no one, what's your choice?

Of three options which would you choose.

  • I choose Obama.

  • I choose Trump.

  • I choose neither.


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Infohawk

Lifer
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Best possible candidate > Obama > Trump

The only important question is where will the Republican nominee fit in?
 

wuliheron

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When people ask me which football team do I favor I usually tell them I prefer mud wrestling. Nude female mud wrestling of course. Forget horse racing and all that crap, this is the real sport of kings. They also do interesting things these days with Jello and Raman noodles.

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For political candidates right now there is also no question in my mind who would make the best president.

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HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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I have to say I'm shocked so few people voted of Obama, from my perspective he seems to be the best president the US have had for a long while.
 

Brigandier

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I have to say I'm shocked so few people voted of Obama, from my perspective he seems to be the best president the US have had for a long while.

Based on what?

I don't dislike Obama, but I don't think he's done too much either. I'm typically a third-party person, so that's why I didn't pick Obama.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Based on what?

I don't dislike Obama, but I don't think he's done too much either. I'm typically a third-party person, so that's why I didn't pick Obama.

I'm not surprised people voted "other" but I'm surprised people voted for a famous moron over Obama, I'm not saying he's done loads, in all honesty I don't know enough to have an opinion, but he is at least intelligent, which Trump is not.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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I have to say I'm shocked so few people voted of Obama, from my perspective he seems to be the best president the US have had for a long while.

He is. For all the things I'd criticize him for, you can go back to at least Carter; and if you go to LBJ, it's a mix, given Vietnam on LBJ's bad side that Obama isn't close to.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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I'm not surprised people voted "other" but I'm surprised people voted for a famous moron over Obama, I'm not saying he's done loads, in all honesty I don't know enough to have an opinion, but he is at least intelligent, which Trump is not.

It really just reflects badly on the poster, very badly.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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He is. For all the things I'd criticize him for, you can go back to at least Carter; and if you go to LBJ, it's a mix, given Vietnam on LBJ's bad side that Obama isn't close to.

Yeah, I know I'm an outsider, but he seems to be just what America needs, someone with an IQ over about 80 in the white house.

It really just reflects badly on the poster, very badly.

Agreed.
 

wuliheron

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Feb 8, 2011
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I have to say I'm shocked so few people voted of Obama, from my perspective he seems to be the best president the US have had for a long while.


That's like saying one outhouse is better then most. Its still an outhouse, its freezing in the winter, an oven in the summer, attracts all kinds of vermin, spreads disease, everyone complains, and the shit still stinks. I'm waiting for more people to fall into the shit and realize indoor plumbing isn't just for convenience.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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That's like saying one outhouse is better then most. Its still an outhouse, its freezing in the winter, an oven in the summer, attracts all kinds of vermin, spreads disease, everyone complains, and the shit still stinks. I'm waiting for more people to fall into the shit and realize indoor plumbing isn't just for convenience.

A fair point. Then let me rephrase Obama seems like a good person.
 

wuliheron

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Feb 8, 2011
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A fair point. Then let me rephrase Obama seems like a good person.


As an individual I'd say he's better then the US deserves. Not merely a good person, but an intelligent empiricist rather then just your average ideologue. But that's like bragging our outhouse has heated toilet seats when most people are still paranoid about electricity and want to get rid of the damn thing.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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As an individual I'd say he's better then the US deserves. Not merely a good person, but an intelligent empiricist rather then just your average ideologue. But that's like bragging our outhouse has heated toilet seats when most people are still paranoid about electricity and want to get rid of the damn thing.

I think this is a first for P&N, I completely agree with everything in this post.
 

Drako

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Jun 9, 2007
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I'm baffled as why anyone would vote for either of these self aggrandizing douche bags.