a Union is trying to stop our 2 ISP's internet interefernce

[Iron Woode]

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/s...ech-netneutrality.html

The National Union of Public and General Employees, which represents more than 340,000 workers across the country, on Friday wrote to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission to investigate the practice of "traffic shaping" and its impact on internet users.

The union wants the CRTC to enact rules prohibiting ISPs from discriminating against certain uses of the internet, such as the file-sharing protocol BitTorrent, which is used by many to share large video files. Bell and Rogers have for some time been quietly shaping traffic, or slowing these uses by limiting how much speed they get.

I wonder what the odds are that they will succeed?

 

[Maleficus]

I personally loathe and despise Bit Torrent, I hope they fail.

Chances aren't that great that they will succeed anyway.

 

[meltdown75]

pretty interesting. i find it amazing that the CRTC is actually dealing with the issues of today (or about to). usually their policy decisions are based on stuff that happened 2 years ago.

 

[meltdown75]

The other part of the article says that this issue has been dealt with, involving Comcast, in the US. So it would be good if the CRTC slapped Bell & Rogers on the wrist just like they did to Comcast, right?

open up the tubes!

 

[sdifox]

what has the union gotta do with it?

 

[Pepsi90919]

I'd love to go to any forum I frequent today and NOT read about stupid Bell kthx

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
I'd love to go to any forum I frequent today and NOT read about stupid Bell kthx

I'm with Rogers. I dislike Bell with a passion.

 

[envy me]

I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: Maleficus
I personally loathe and despise Bit Torrent, I hope they fail.

Chances aren't that great that they will succeed anyway.

What the hell?

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: Maleficus
I personally loathe and despise Bit Torrent, I hope they fail.

Chances aren't that great that they will succeed anyway.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: envy me
I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

No it doesn't, I had teksaavy, their bandwidth is NOT, I repeat NOT shaped.

I hit my cap all the time.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: envy me
I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

No it doesn't, I had teksaavy, their bandwidth is NOT, I repeat NOT shaped.

I hit my cap all the time.

I have been with Teksavvy for over a year and you are correct, it's never been at all. I was always getting great speeds. I am posting from work right now so I cannot test but I haven't noticed anything in the last few days.

They did send me an email yesterday informing me of this and saying they would provide more updates as they were available. I have also read through dslreports forums that encrypting traffic might circumvent this.

I have yet to test to see if I am affected, however Teksavvy does lease their lines from Bell and if Bell is shaping the traffic, then they would be affected causing me to be affected as well.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: envy me
I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

Um, no. They traffic shape because their network can't handle the load it's being given. What they should do is make it clear that they can't deliver the promised bandwidth in more than bursts.

<-- also teksavvy customer. I don't do a whole lot of bittorrenting and I hope the network operators continue to have freedom to make sure that a small fraction of the users don't take the majority of the bandwidth, to the detriment of the rest of us. Of course I have nothing against bittorrent and I hope that people can use the bandwidth when it's there without fear of retribution (rogers used to cap me for a week at a time for downloading linux distros) but in general, moderating high bandwidth apps when the network is flooded seems like a good idea.

I think most of the rage is transferred when people see a big corporation fighting bittorrent and automatically associate it with the riaa/mpaa. As far as I know, that's not the case here so, aside from not being able to fulfil inaccurate marketing promises, I don't see a motive for any mischief.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: envy me
I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

No it doesn't, I had teksaavy, their bandwidth is NOT, I repeat NOT shaped.

I hit my cap all the time.

I have been with Teksavvy for over a year and you are correct, it's never been at all. I was always getting great speeds. I am posting from work right now so I cannot test but I haven't noticed anything in the last few days.

They did send me an email yesterday informing me of this and saying they would provide more updates as they were available. I have also read through dslreports forums that encrypting traffic might circumvent this.

I have yet to test to see if I am affected, however Teksavvy does lease their lines from Bell and if Bell is shaping the traffic, then they would be affected causing me to be affected as well.

They lease their lines from Bell but use their own seperate servers/switches etc etc, as a result bell policy does not affect teksavvy customers as per what the owner of TekSavvy told me when I was on the phone with him last year.

I did find that when the speed dropped it was usually a bell line issue, or a teksavvy server problem.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: envy me
I am a Teksavvy customer so this affects me directly.

These greedy bastards (Bell) need to be shut down and have their business government regulated.

unfortunately they own most of the lines and infrastructure. they don't call her Ma Bell for nothin!