A Third Of US Young Adults Not Eligible For Military Recruiting Due To Obesity

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Subyman

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I totally disagree.

Most of the blame needs to be put on the families for not developing healthy habits. If public schools were to have healthy lunches, what do you think those children would do when they got home? Would they a) continue to eat healthy, do their homework and go to sleep at a decent hour or b) Turn on their Xbox One or PS4, vegetate in front of the TV for hours and pound large quantities of junk food and sugary drinks.

I'm going to go with b.

I kind of agree with you on nutrition. Everyone knows whats good for them and bad for them. Its everywhere. The average person probably couldn't put together a body building nutrition plan, but they could generally know what to eat to stay healthy.

I think PE is important for schools because for some kids it is the only form of structured exercise that they will ever be exposed to.
 

piasabird

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There are plenty more reasons why someone would be disqualified from Military Service.
Police Record
Drug Addict
Smokers
Take mind altering drugs
Cant pass the psych screening test
Drug Convictions
I imagine there is a drug screening.
Mentally or physically disabled.

I was in the military, so it cant be that hard.
 
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Nebor

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when the majority of company's stop treating employees like slaves who work 60+ hours a week , people will have time to work out instead of just eat and crash when they get home

I think a better direction is one we're already seeing, where employers are requiring employees to wear fitness monitors and adjusting their insurance rates with the data collected from those monitors. Punish the fatties, it's the only way.
 

soundforbjt

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There are plenty more reasons why someone would be disqualified from Military Service.
Police Record
Drug Addict
Smokers
Take mind altering drugs
Cant pass the psych screening test
Drug Convictions
I imagine there is a drug screening.
Mentally or physically disabled.

I was in the military, so it cant be that hard.

They lifted a lot of the police record restrictions for the Iraq war.
 

werepossum

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Police departments are obvious and evident fall-backs for these folks; you still get the hope of shooting at people who look and act differently than you.
lol +1

Usually the numbers that I hear USAREC throw around is 10% of the population is eligible due to medical, weight, intelligence and prior criminal conviction, but only around 1% of the total population wind up in the military.

This isn't the end of the world. Salaries and benefits will be increased to attract fit personnel if necessary.
Won't be necessary in glorious new future with trannie army. Who ever heard of an obese trannie?
 

Railgun

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You don't have a clue.

While exaggerated, not completely false so much. Unless things have changed, which is possible at this point, as far as the Marines go, it's the PCP you'll go into if you can't hack it. There were a few larger recruits when I went in. There were plenty poolies that were running in garbage bags trying to meet the max weight allowance to go.

If 1/3 of eligibles are too large, it's still 50x more possibles than the entire U.S. military is large. That's based on 2010 numbers of about 50 million still eligible and only 1.3 million total US force.
If you want to narrow that down to, say, 18-21 yos, that changes a bit. Don't feel like looking up those numbers.

There are also plenty of enlisted that aren't in the shape you'd expect or want someone in th military to be in. Granted, not everyone is on the front line, still...
 
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Newell Steamer

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The alternative is what - have PE and eating right be part of our upbringing and daily life?

People lose their fucking minds over vaccinations, could you imagine the back lash over daily mandated exercise and a limited diet to be an in shape citizen in order to enter the military?

Americans are obese, out of shape and lazy - and that is the way they like it.
 

Nebor

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There are also plenty of enlisted that aren't in the shape you'd expect or want someone in th military to be in. Granted, not everyone is on the front line, still...

Because they have shitty commanders that care more about feelings than standards or maintaining a fighting force.
 

Ackmed

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While exaggerated, not completely false so much. Unless things have changed, which is possible at this point, as far as the Marines go, it's the PCP you'll go into if you can't hack it. There were a few larger recruits when I went in. There were plenty poolies that were running in garbage bags trying to meet the max weight allowance to go.

If 1/3 of eligibles are too large, it's still 50x more possibles than the entire U.S. military is large. That's based on 2010 numbers of about 50 million still eligible and only 1.3 million total US force.
If you want to narrow that down to, say, 18-21 yos, that changes a bit. Don't feel like looking up those numbers.

There are also plenty of enlisted that aren't in the shape you'd expect or want someone in th military to be in. Granted, not everyone is on the front line, still...

They do NOT put you on a salad diet at boot camp. Which is what he said happens. Perhaps in some other service, but not in the Marine Corps. Making blanket statements is a bad idea.

I like kicking fatties out of the military. We just dropped two from a class I was attending in Quantico. One guy was 3lbs over, and sent home because he failed the height and weight standard. Didn't tape out.
 

Blackjack200

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You don't have a clue.

I was in the DEP and only didn't ship because a doctor refused to clear me for my dislocated shoulder. So yeah, I have a clue. There were fat guys that shipped.

My brother shipped underweight and should have been given double rations. The DIs refused to allow that because they're such hard asses. He graduated boot camp at like 140 lbs. (6 ft.).

While exaggerated, not completely false so much. Unless things have changed, which is possible at this point, as far as the Marines go, it's the PCP you'll go into if you can't hack it.

Pork Chop Patrol.
 

piasabird

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OBESE is just a term. It can just mean you are slightly too heavy in accordance with height and weight charts or body mass measurements. A slight beer belly might be obese by some standards.
 

Ackmed

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I was in the DEP and only didn't ship because a doctor refused to clear me for my dislocated shoulder. So yeah, I have a clue. There were fat guys that shipped.

My brother shipped underweight and should have been given double rations. The DIs refused to allow that because they're such hard asses. He graduated boot camp at like 140 lbs. (6 ft.).

Oh, you were in the DEP program?!?! Wow.

Fact IS, they do not put recruits on a salad diet. I called you on it, move on. Your brother being skinny doesn't matter.

OBESE is just a term. It can just mean you are slightly too heavy in accordance with height and weight charts or body mass measurements. A slight beer belly might be obese by some standards.

No, obese means you are extremely fat. Which a lot of America is anymore.
 

BoberFett

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from 2012

"In its biennial survey of high school students across the nation, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in June that nearly half said they had no physical education classes in an average week. In New York City, that number was 20.5 percent, compared with 14.4 percent a decade earlier, according to the C.D.C."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/e...ity-physical-education-is-sidelined.html?_r=0

Goddamn capitalist pigs, cutting the gym classes out of schools. We need to get the free market out of school and get government involved again.
 

HumblePie

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They just need to put one of these in every high school.

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Railgun

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They do NOT put you on a salad diet at boot camp. Which is what he said happens. Perhaps in some other service, but not in the Marine Corps. Making blanket statements is a bad idea.

I like kicking fatties out of the military. We just dropped two from a class I was attending in Quantico. One guy was 3lbs over, and sent home because he failed the height and weight standard. Didn't tape out.

Don't be pedantic. Of course they don't give salads only. And I also said it was exaggerated.

Also, the weight to height thing is flawed. For example, I think my weight limit was 174 for my 5'7" height. That was 20 years ago of course, so that may have changed. However, there's no reason I couldn't have weighed 180 and be in great shape. I'm not saying that it's the same situation you're mentioning, but it's not that cut and dry.
 

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I am 6 feet tall and weigh 222 lb.s which is a BMI of 29.2. This means that I am officially obese but I don't look obese. A former coworker had a side business manufacturing electronic calipers to measure body fat percentage for the people that want to argue about BMI.