A step in the right direction (I think)

UltraQuiet

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Supreme Court Ruling


Supreme Court upholds campaign finance rules

WASHINGTON (AP) --The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the government can ban campaign contributions from advocacy groups, a warm-up decision to the showdown over the broader new campaign finance law.

Justices rejected a constitutional challenge to the 32-year-old federal donation ban, which applies to groups with a point of view on issues such as gun rights and abortion.

The case, involving a North Carolina anti-abortion organization, was a prelude to the court's handling of the 2002 campaign finance law.

By a vote of 7-2, the court said the right to free speech does not trump Congress' goal of limiting the corrosive effects of corporate money in politics.

Advocacy organizations maintain that their members should be allowed to pool their money and use it to elect candidates who support their issues.

The government maintained that the groups could be used to circumvent individual campaign donation limits, with little public disclosure about the source of the money.

"Any attack on the federal prohibition of direct corporate political contributions goes against the current of a century of congressional efforts," Justice David Souter wrote for the majority. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices John Paul Stevens, Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer agreed with him. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy agreed with the outcome.

Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented.

The donation ban is not directly related to the court's review of the new campaign finance law, but the ruling will be closely watched for clues to what the justices might do.

The court has scheduled a special session in September, a month ahead of the start of its regular term, to consider the law that bans corporate, union and unlimited contributions -- known as soft money -- to national party committees.

The new law also bars a range of interest groups, including those financed with corporate or union money and those that do not disclose their donors, from airing ads mentioning federal candidates in their districts the month before a primary and two months before a general election.

When Congress rewrote the campaign finance rules, it did not change the 1971 law that makes it unlawful for any type of corporation to give money to a federal candidate or political party.

Currently, only individuals, political parties, political action committees and other campaigns can contribute to federal candidates and national party committees. The court's ruling Monday maintains that status quo and continues a trend in which the high court has been willing to uphold limits on contributions.

In 2001, the court ruled that political parties could not spend unlimited amounts of money if they coordinated their efforts with a candidate. And in 2000, the court voted to back Missouri's contribution limits to state campaigns.

Elizabeth Garrett, a law professor at the University of Southern California, said the case is important because issue-oriented nonprofits have become increasingly important in campaigns.

She said it also means that provisions in the new campaign finance act that require nonprofit corporations, as well as for-profit corporations and labor unions, to use separate funds to pay for political advertisements are more likely to survive the court's review.

"The decision is a green light for other laws regulating these organizations and their involvement in campaigns, such as aggressive disclosure laws," said Garrett.

The case is Federal Election Commission v. Beaumont, case no. 02-403.

 

CaptnKirk

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Well, this being on ATOT, plus being posted by Dave with "I Think" in the topic block . . . . I was leary of reading the contents - but:

Good Post UQ - This is something that has to be done to end a certain element of Political Control through 'Cubic Dollars'.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I agree, but I don't feel that campaign contributions should be considered free speech in the first place. Money != expression.

why only advocacy groups? Those are generally grass roots based, notice they didnt stop the flow from big business or the pacs, is this just the supreme court playing more politics?
 

UltraQuiet

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Well, this being on ATOT, plus being posted by Dave with "I Think" in the topic block . . . . I was leary of reading the contents - but:
Two eyerolls for you
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Some things of interest and things I don't understand:

"The court has scheduled a special session in September, a month ahead of the start of its regular term, to consider the law that bans corporate, union and unlimited contributions -- known as soft money -- to national party committees."

I hereby designate this a "GOOD THING" and hope they support the law. Maybe next they'll define "WAR" and rule on the War Power's Act, if anyone ever gets enough balls to challenge it.

When Congress rewrote the campaign finance rules, it did not change the 1971 law that makes it unlawful for any type of corporation to give money to a federal candidate or political party.

Someone help me out here. Every election (or after) we hear about how much Enron gave to Bush, etc., etc., etc. How is that possible if this is a law?

Now if Mitch McConnell would fall off the face of the earth maybe some meaningful legislature could get passed.
 

Alistar7

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The supreme courts mistake was not in equating money with speech,. but failing to place a value, my suggestion would be a $1 maximum contribution from any individual, group, company, union, etc......


 

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so what is the deal, only individuals can contribute right? well guess what will happen, only the richest people have a few thousand to donate, and guess who they will donate it to? yep, Bush, his tax cut saved them thousands so this would be a way to pay him back, it is just another way to guarentee that he gets elected again I guess, along with scaring the public so they ignore the important issues here in the US. I dont see how he can fail.