A short visit to the Netherlands and Antwerp

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With some of the insanely cheap airfare deals around lately we decided to do a short trip to the Netherlands and Belgium even though I am short on vacation time. I only had enough time to do a Saturday-Wednesday trip but at $316 RT from DTW it was too good to pass up. Many of our trips involve odd routings to keep things cheap\get better planes so it would be a welcome change to have an uncomplicated trip from Detroit for once.

Of course Air Canada screwed that up 2 days before we left and were told we either needed to leave 5 hours earlier or 1 day later. Neither were attractive options so I had to play my own advocate and spoon feed them alternate itineraries. As a quick tip I’ve found that searching for your own workable options can often be better than letting an airline tell you your options as there is usually a pretty limited set of alternatives their systems give them or they think they know the policy when they really don’t. For example I made the mistake of asking if I could change my departure city to a Canadian one and was told ‘No the system won’t allow that.’ I knew that wasn’t true so I asked to change my flight to AC8235 (or whatever it was)without mentioning cities and she was able to ticket that just fine even though it was departing from Windsor Canada.

Anyway on approach to Amsterdam we circled for quite a while due to fog. When we landed I could see why. We had no idea we were about to touch down as visibility was maybe 100ft or so.

With the various delays and shockingly long lines we weren’t able to see the Anne Frank Museum. Everything else was pretty empty so we were a bit surprised the line was so long.

On the positive side there were relatively few tourists – there were maybe 10 other people in the Royal Palace at the same time as us

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While it was raining\misting most of the time it did clear up a bit for the evening of day 1 and the afternoon of day 2 which worked out really well as we were headed to Zaanse Schans to see some Dutch windmills

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KMFJD

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Amazing pictures yet again, thanks for sharing. I haven't been there since '99 but it still looks the same to me.
 

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thats nice but what about the weed?

No weed sorry. We did try the lavender gouda. It was...not good

and the Red Light District!

We did go but you aren't allowed to take pictures. That was also pretty crowded but that might be because some places apparently run 'off-season' discounts so it was only 40Euro for a 'suck and fuck'

It was a diamond run. She's a lucky girl.

Nah - she has to wait 15 more years for one
 
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After two days in Amsterdam we headed to Gouda on our way to Rotterdam and then Antwerp. We’re big cheese fans so we wanted to pick up some Gouda in Gouda. It was a bit more expensive than what we found in the grocery stores the day before but still far less than you can buy it for in the US and it was vacuum sealed for easy transport back to the US

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This was a rough day. Despite what I had been told in an email from NS the Gouda station did NOT have luggage lockers. So we rolled our bags around till we got to a hotel and offered them some money to store our luggage there for a few hours. To make things more fun it was cold and raining for much of the morning. Still we really didn’t see any tourists and had the church and cheese shops to ourselves.

After lunch we headed to Rotterdam for the afternoon until our train to Antwerp at night. Some pretty interesting architecture in Rotterdam and the market hall there was very cool

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There were storage lockers in Rotterdam. Unfortunately they were behind a door with a angry looking sign. Not knowing any Dutch we weren't sure if we should go in or if that was a 'Do not enter' kind of thing so we wandered around a bit to make sure we were in the right place. Fortunately someone else entered without hesitation and we saw lockers behind the door

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What about the Fries with Mayo? or some fresh Stroopwaffles?

Friet, Fries is the language spoken in Friesland (in the north of the Netherlands).

If you need storage lockers for your luggage always specify that it's for luggage, as most stations have bicycle storage (so if you just ask about storage they'll say yes). Gouda indeed does not have luggage lockers:
http://www.ns.nl/en/stations/gouda.html

And the warning on the door says 'Emergency exit, do not block'. The notice next to it mentions that the door has to remain closed to prevent fire hazard. Which clearly indicates that you can find the storage behind it :D
 

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After Rotterdam we boarded a late evening Thalys high speed train to spend the night Antwerp. We had assigned seats but the theme of few people continued and the conductor told us to sit anywhere as we had the entire train car to ourselves.

We walked 11 miles and covered 3 cities on this day. I really wanted to stop in Gouda and Antwerp but it was a bit much. If I had it to do over again I would leave Rotterdam earlier as a lot of things close at 5-6pm on weekdays so we were struggling a bit for stuff to do. We also don't typically walk 31 miles in 3 days so we weren't super excited about just wandering around after things closed.

Even so I have no real regrets as Belgium is one of my favorite countries to visit. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s just kind of a vibe that I like. And the food. Properly done Belgium or Leige waffles are my favorite breakfast food, I love fries, pretty good chocolate and they have my favorite fish&chips restaurant in the world. Honestly the last one was a big draw. I’ve eaten at a lot of well known chippers across a fair number of countries and continents and Bia Mara is my favorite. And of course there’s my like of Trappist and Tripels\Quads which are pretty easy to find so much of this last full day revolved around me eating and drinking myself stupid.

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We got pretty lucky with dinner and exited Bia Mara right at Blue Hour. The rain finally ended and left a nice sheen on the cobblestone

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The Antwerp train station is up there on my list of favorite train stations as well. (pardon the quick cell phone pictures). I thought the architecture was very interesting with several levels of train platforms

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Overall a pretty good trip although I wasn’t thrilled about adding Toronto to my list of airports that I have had to run through to make a connection. If we go back I doubt we'd spend much more time in Amsterdam as two days covered quite a bit although it would make a great base for day trips elsewhere
 
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Those are some nice pictures.

Thanks!

What about the Fries with Mayo? or some fresh Stroopwaffles?

We largely saved the fries for Belgium although we did enjoy the generally amazing Stroopwaffles. I was talking to one of the front desk ladies for a bit and as we were chatting during check out she asked if I could hold on for a few minutes and disappeared into the back. About 5 minutes later she handed me a nice tin that had a sealed stack of stroopwaffles inside. We have resisted eating them so far but I think this weekend will be the breaking point. Of course that got me flagged at the ambitious AMS security clearance, along with my camera and stick of solid deodorant. My wife's bag was flagged too but she wasn't given a reason. They had a ton of baggage people around to search luggage so, having never transited AMS before, I looked it up and its apparently pretty common for them to do a lot of bag searches

Just discovered West coast to Amsterdam around $350 roundtrip.
http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2017/02/28/europe-sale-seattle-amsterdam-325/

If I can get the time off from work I'm seriously considering it.

British Airways had some ~$350RT fares to London and Amsterdam from San Fran as well with a 10% discount if your Visa card qualifies for promocode CARDOFFERU. I think a lot of them may be expired now though

Friet, Fries is the language spoken in Friesland (in the north of the Netherlands).

If you need storage lockers for your luggage always specify that it's for luggage, as most stations have bicycle storage (so if you just ask about storage they'll say yes). Gouda indeed does not have luggage lockers:
http://www.ns.nl/en/stations/gouda.html

And the warning on the door says 'Emergency exit, do not block'. The notice next to it mentions that the door has to remain closed to prevent fire hazard. Which clearly indicates that you can find the storage behind it :D

There was some conflicting information about the luggage lockers online so I figured I would email them and did state luggage. Just in case something was lost in translation I had located a bike shop that was willing to store luggage but neglected to check if they were open on Monday. Well, thats the only day of the week they were closed. Oh well - it all worked out :)

Thanks for the translation of the signs. I'll be sure to associate that with luggage storage now. What could go wrong? ;)
 

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There were storage lockers in Rotterdam. Unfortunately they were behind a door with a angry looking sign. Not knowing any Dutch we weren't sure if we should go in or if that was a 'Do not enter' kind of thing so we wandered around a bit to make sure we were in the right place. Fortunately someone else entered without hesitation and we saw lockers behind the door

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Google translate on your phone. I use it all the time.
 

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That Amsterdam deal is so tempting but it's probably (hopefully?) dead by now.

Well, there have been at least 5 sales for <$410 airfare from various west coast cities to places in Europe in the last 30 days (Amsterdam, London and Paris are the more common sale destinations) and a few more if you consider departing from Denver so if you want to go it will probably happen again. In the meantime it looks like BA has gone back to its outrageously expensive $550RT tickets to Amsterdamn from LAX ;)
 

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Well, there have been at least 5 sales for <$410 airfare from various west coast cities to places in Europe in the last 30 days (Amsterdam, London and Paris are the more common sale destinations) and a few more if you consider departing from Denver so if you want to go it will probably happen again. In the meantime it looks like BA has gone back to its outrageously expensive $550RT tickets to Amsterdamn from LAX ;)

If we could cheaply and easily fly to Orlando, FL I'd probably jump on this deal:
http://milestomemories.boardingarea.com/cheap-fares-to-europe-3/

Cheap Fares, Orlando to Europe For Just $62
Norwegian has super cheap flights available from Orlando, Florida to many European cities starting at just $62 one-way!

The Offer
Norwegian has prices as low as $62 one-way from Orlando to Europe, when you book through their UK website. The actual price is £51.10 and a quick conversion shows a price of $62.61.
 

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Just want to thank the OP for letting me live vicariously through him and saving a crap ton of $$.
 

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If USD $316 got you ROUND TRIP, wow, that's incredible.

As you already know, if you went to Copenhagen but didn't get to see Tivoli (because it's closed winter), then you really missed something good. SOrt of like visiting Paris and missing the Tower, or visiting California and missing Yosemite, or India and missing Taj Mahal.
 

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If we could cheaply and easily fly to Orlando, FL I'd probably jump on this deal:
http://milestomemories.boardingarea.com/cheap-fares-to-europe-3/

Coming back was more expensive and was putting me into the $350 range with seat selection but YMMV. Current deals up: Denver to Brussels this spring $340 and is you can get to Boston or NY cheap $311 to Spain Sept-Jan

Just want to thank the OP for letting me live vicariously through him and saving a crap ton of $$.

Maybe if you spent more money your kid would hang out with you Saturday morning :D

If USD $316 got you ROUND TRIP, wow, that's incredible.

As you already know, if you went to Copenhagen but didn't get to see Tivoli (because it's closed winter), then you really missed something good. SOrt of like visiting Paris and missing the Tower, or visiting California and missing Yosemite, or India and missing Taj Mahal.

Yeah there have been some crazy cheap airfare deals to Europe lately. For those living near Boston or New York they have dipped below $300 RT a couple of times. Haven't made it to Copenhagen yet but its on our list and I've heard nothing but good things about it